Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 15:28

Written by Haddonfield on 08.09.2009 at 15:12

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 14:58


Maybe you read that on my Facebook page?

Possible, must have read it somewhere. As |I usually look at the facebook info page of people I add, it is most likely.

Yep, that could be . Do you also play Magic?

I did for a while whem I was young but my brother stole my cards and sold them to one of his friends, so the 1000 Francs I had invested in them was to much to reinvest, especially at the age of 12 or 13.

Written by Haddonfield on 08.09.2009 at 15:51

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 15:28

Written by Haddonfield on 08.09.2009 at 15:12

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 14:58


Maybe you read that on my Facebook page?

Possible, must have read it somewhere. As |I usually look at the facebook info page of people I add, it is most likely.

Yep, that could be . Do you also play Magic?

I did for a while whem I was young but my brother stole my cards and sold them to one of his friends, so the 1000 Francs I had invested in them was to much to reinvest, especially at the age of 12 or 13.

Yeah, Magic is really expensive, I don't even want to think of all the thousands of Euros I spent on Magic (But at least I've seen a lot of cities because of tournaments like LA, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Prague,...)

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 15:57

(But at least I've seen a lot of cities because of tournaments like LA, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Prague,...)

Are you sponsored for the tournaments?

Written by Haddonfield on 08.09.2009 at 15:59

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 15:57

(But at least I've seen a lot of cities because of tournaments like LA, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Prague,...)

Are you sponsored for the tournaments?

I have to pay for most of them by myself, but for example I won the flight to LA (which were nearly 700 Euros ) which was very cool

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 16:00

Written by Haddonfield on 08.09.2009 at 15:59

Written by Diabolos on 08.09.2009 at 15:57

(But at least I've seen a lot of cities because of tournaments like LA, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Prague,...)

Are you sponsored for the tournaments?

I have to pay for most of them by myself, but for example I won the flight to LA (which were nearly 700 Euros ) which was very cool

Yep that's brialliant, I hope you got time to see the City a bit. I'd love to visit LA.

LA was somehow pretty boring, I imagined it a lot cooler

LA is one of the cities i want to visit the most...it is really so bad "in real"?

Been a while since I've been in this thread.

Anyways, back on topic.
A bar I frequent recently started doing weekly "Magic The Gathering: Bar Night". It's all casual games, no restricted decks or anything, you show up any time between 7:30-close and grab a beer if you like and challenge whoever you want. It's nice, when it's warm out we play on a beautiful rooftop patio. It's probably my ideal way of playing magic. Lol, the bar even started having a special called MTG MGD's. If you buy a bottle of MGD (drink special price obviously) you get a free random magic card.

Its cool because everyone from new players to long time tournament pros show up. I remember when it first started there was only like 4-8 of us doing it, now we usually take up around 6 picnic tables every wednesday!

We even have a facebook group for it:
http://www.facebook.com/tos.php?api_key=a676422724936f3648e27f5271a667c9&next=http%3A%2F%2F208.85.146.37%2Fq%2F763729%2F%3Fo%3D1%26source%3D1&v=1.0&canvas#/group.php?gid=123950811676

Written by Ellrohir on 08.09.2009 at 22:40

LA is one of the cities i want to visit the most...it is really so bad "in real"?

At least I was really disappointed with it, but maybe you would like it more than me

I hate the new rules, damage will no longer be put on the stack in combat and you cant get mana burn anymore. my zombie deck from now on is crap, thx Wizards of the coast you bastards!

Written by baldur on 20.09.2009 at 14:47

my zombie deck from now on is crap, thx Wizards of the coast you bastards!

Two of my decks have notably suffered under that rule change too, they're both still very playable though. What's worse though is that imo the game as a whole has lost a big and important part of its strategic aspects...


On another note, in the last few weeks I've started keeping myself busy with the game again, last week I also built my first (real life) deck in about five years (and it actually works out quite well too). I'd enjoy having some more opponents for casual online games via MWS Workstation where I sometimes play with Doc Godin. If anyone's interested you can send me a PM and I'll send you a link to download the program (for free of course)

Cannot get manaburn anymore? wtf?

Written by Ellrohir on 01.01.2010 at 19:35

Cannot get manaburn anymore? wtf?

Yeah there have been rule changes, the stacking of combat damage works differently now, respectively you can't do anything anymore after the damage is on the stack, so no more sacrificing creatures that were going to die anyway. Also mana burn doesn't exist anymore. If you have spare mana it just disappears.

I am down with the fact it happened...but what i wondered about was WHY it happened...

To make the game easier for new/young players...

I somehow expected such a statement

I still have a load of cards. I also used to have the Magic The Gathering PC game, which was really cool.
Well, I still have the game, but since Windows XP it hasn't worked. Does anyone know of a version I can download anywhere that will work on XP?

How old is the game? if "old enough", you should give a try to DOSbox console - tool for emulating old environment of MS DOS under new Windows...for me it works well for all those immortal classics from first half of 90ties

Written by Bas on 01.01.2010 at 22:36

To make the game easier for new/young players...

Then why don't you and your friends play according to the old rules? That would be possible, right?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2010 at 20:06

Written by Bas on 01.01.2010 at 22:36

To make the game easier for new/young players...

Then why don't you and your friends play according to the old rules? That would be possible, right?

Well it's possible, but as the game rules are already extremely complicated and occasionally very tricky, filled with loopholes and can influence a great deal of strategic decisions, it's definitely better to stick with the official rules. Also it'd be pretty confusing to play by different rules with different people also some cards were a lot better with the old rules and should be replaced now and finally it's a game were a lot of decisions are influenced by habits (or experience) so as I also sometimes participate in tournament games it's better to always play like I'm supposed to

So it's possible and if people want to do it that way in casual games they can, but I don't want to.

No mana burn? Wow, I feel old now. I miss interrupts, too. Granted, they were kind of pointless but it was fun to argue with people about having counter wars and randomly throwing in an instant there just to screw people up. I picked up a couple packs 3 years ago, give or take, and I saw some things I liked. Things seemed to have gotten a little too powerful. I started when Homelands came out and Mirage was a brand new thing so everything I see now still compares to back then. I feel like my shocker/megrim hayday is already 2 generations old lol

Me and my son (Skullkill here on MS) play often.
Enjoy the game, and he too pulls out the sliver deck now and then... I just can't win against it.
He has made changes to the deck for the new rules and it is still a killer!

Written by I_Die_Often on 17.03.2010 at 02:34

Me and my son (Skullkill here on MS) play often.
Enjoy the game, and he too pulls out the sliver deck now and then... I just can't win against it.
He has made changes to the deck for the new rules and it is still a killer!

Which Sliver deck ist it? From what set?

Have any of you heard of Havoc: The Bothering?

Written by [user id=2084] on 28.03.2010 at 07:48

Have any of you heard of Havoc: The Bothering?

now we had

Written by Bas on 27.03.2010 at 15:12

Written by I_Die_Often on 17.03.2010 at 02:34

Me and my son (Skullkill here on MS) play often.
Enjoy the game, and he too pulls out the sliver deck now and then... I just can't win against it.
He has made changes to the deck for the new rules and it is still a killer!

Which Sliver deck ist it? From what set?

ok so heres the list its mostly form Onslaught block
Creatures
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colt sliver x1
quick sliver x2
menmonic sliver x1
brood sliver x1
ward sliver x4
plated sliver x4
mistform dreamer x4
shifting sliver x3
colt sliver x1
crypt sliver x1
mistform sliver x1
spectral sliver x1
essence sliver x1
heart sliver x1

spells
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shard covergrnce x2
explosive vegetation x2
lush growth x1
plague wind x1
cover of darkness x1
coat of arms x1
crown of vigor x3
junkyo bell x1
aphetto dredging x2

here is a another one he has a hard time with its white/blue
my way of playing is to get propaganda/ghostly prison/windborn muse out and wait for him to play his big creatures then take them over

creatures
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sustainer of the realm x2
wall of resistance x2
windborn muse x1
cytoplast maipulator x1
clone x1
dominating licid x1
avatar of me x1
sky ruin drake x1
wall of vapor x1
covert operative x1
hanna, ship's navigator x1
wall of denial x1

spells
--------
wing of hope x1
confiscate x2
persuasion x1
levitation x1
flight x1
vapor snare x2
propaganda x3
followed foot steps x1
rite of replication x2
sigil of the empty throne x1
reverence x1
serra's embrace x2
asha's favor x1
nimbus wings x1
improvised armor x2
ancestral tribute x1
ghostly prison x1

Both lists don't look all too bad.

If I can give some advice (of course you can just ignore it if you don't like it ) In the Sliver list the only red card you play is a single Heart Sliver, which isn't all too amazing anyway, by dropping it you can also drop your red mana sources, assembling 4 colours is hard enough as it is (assuming you're using mostly basics). Also Crown Of Vigor is a pretty bad card, any random sliver should be better, this one being the obvious best replacement (and a common). I'd also drop that Plague Winds in favor of a cheap, one shot removal spell (Terrpr, Doom Blade, etc). That way you can get rid of a big creature before you hit 9 mana.

The other list mostly seems fine as it is, although it kind of puzzles me why you'd use Flight and Levitation, most of your creatures already fly anyway, I'm sure you can find some more helpful enchantments if you give it a try

Thanks for the info i wont comment on the slivers as im not to thrilled with my deck but dont want to mess with it but my other deck the flight is left over form when i had more creatures in there and i just haven't removed it and Levitation was thrown in to try to get this deck to win faster

I'm currently working on a deck revolving around Sek'Kuar Deathkeeper from Coldsnap.

So far I've got a lot of shit like Shambling Remains, Grim Harvest's, etc in there...any ideas anyone?

Written by Doc G. on 01.04.2010 at 01:26

I'm currently working on a deck revolving around Sek'Kuar Deathkeeper from Coldsnap.

So far I've got a lot of shit like Shambling Remains, Grim Harvest's, etc in there...any ideas anyone?

Here is an older forum post about Sek'Kuar decks, some good ideas depending on the format you are playing
Sek'Kuar Deck