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Written by deadone on 02.07.2015 at 04:43
As a huge fan of history (especially military history - I paint toy soldiers for fucks sake) I find these history themed bands to be pathetic. Regurgitating mindless historical data doesn't exactly result in inspired heart felt lyrics (and IMO music should evoke some sort of emotion).
And by the sounds of it, this is musically as shit and uninspired as the abomination that is Sabaton which in my opinion is one of the most vapid and gutless bands to ever play heavy metal.
Only band that did history alright was Iron Maiden who somehow managed to capture the emotional vibe of what they were singing about (e.g. Trooper - a suicidal charge by cavalry into massed cannon fire in Crimea).
Bands do a lot better singing about current events they might have an emotional attachment to (e.g. Skyclad and British industrial decline or some of the stuff coming out about end of Cold War or US race riots after Rodney King).
Basically if I want history, I will read about it from someone who has a clue. If I want good metal music, I'll listen to someone who can write a memorable music that conveys whatever meaning and emotional response it says on the box.
Overall, as a fellow history enthusiast, I agree that it's difficult to convey with historical lyrics the same urgency and emotion of other subject matter, even the absurd. There's nothing particularly compelling about listing off names, dates, and the bare facts of progression if you don't find some way to dress it up a bit, and Civil War mix in so much generic heavy metal tripe that it's even sillier.
Still, I sense that I'm more forgiving about that sort of thing, and I do think it's quite possible to do it right. One of the best examples that comes to mind is Iced Earth's "Gettysburg," which does a fantastic job of mixing historical detail with humanity and spirit. Even if it's not always successful, I'm glad that some bands take to the textbooks for their lyrical content; it's a nice change from the usual subjects. As I've mentioned, I love Sabaton, but boy howdy, if you hate those guys then you're going to absolutely loathe Civil War.
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THIS ALBUM COVER IS RACIST AND SHOULD BE REMOVED
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Navy SEAL US .. album fits more to US not Europe, great idea, sing about unknown historical facts as Sabbaton but do it in better way, Bay Of Pigs, how many knows what was it?
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Written by deadone on 02.07.2015 at 04:43
As a huge fan of history (especially military history - I paint toy soldiers for fucks sake) I find these history themed bands to be pathetic. Regurgitating mindless historical data doesn't exactly result in inspired heart felt lyrics (and IMO music should evoke some sort of emotion).
And by the sounds of it, this is musically as shit and uninspired as the abomination that is Sabaton which in my opinion is one of the most vapid and gutless bands to ever play heavy metal.
Only band that did history alright was Iron Maiden who somehow managed to capture the emotional vibe of what they were singing about (e.g. Trooper - a suicidal charge by cavalry into massed cannon fire in Crimea).
Bands do a lot better singing about current events they might have an emotional attachment to (e.g. Skyclad and British industrial decline or some of the stuff coming out about end of Cold War or US race riots after Rodney King).
Basically if I want history, I will read about it from someone who has a clue. If I want good metal music, I'll listen to someone who can write a memorable music that conveys whatever meaning and emotional response it says on the box.
Best comment I've read on this website in a while. I'm not a history-fanatic by any means, but bands like Sabaton are just so dull to me. People give them way too much credit for having gone to the library a few times and writing down some summaries of historical events and singing those over some uninspired keyboard melodies with a guitar in there somewhere. Anyone can do that. I'm not a huge Maiden fan, but at least they turn it into actual lyrics and I respect them for it. And "The Trooper" is indeed a great song that's a good example of that.
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Dead - you know Trooper is about Crimea war ... I am impressed
IMO historical lyric cincept is better as about bones, guts and so on, many bands has bad lyrics and yes also about women, pussy and legs are boring lyrics, like Whitenskae seems David never has seen pussy and wants it as 15 years teenage boy. This historical lyrics is good
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 02.07.2015 at 15:03
THIS ALBUM COVER IS RACIST AND SHOULD BE REMOVED
since when US flag is rasism ,,, and deny confederates existed is also wrong, same as we remove nazie german swastika from history books
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Written by Bad English on 02.07.2015 at 16:50
since when US flag is rasism ,,, and deny confederates existed is also wrong, same as we remove nazie german swastika from history books
He's making a joke about the cover because there's a big bunch of bullshit hoopla in the States right now that the Confederate flag should not be displayed or sold anymore due to its connection to America's slave history.
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Written by psykometal on 03.07.2015 at 02:02
Written by Bad English on 02.07.2015 at 16:50
since when US flag is rasism ,,, and deny confederates existed is also wrong, same as we remove nazie german swastika from history books
He's making a joke about the cover because there's a big bunch of bullshit hoopla in the States right now that the Confederate flag should not be displayed or sold anymore due to its connection to America's slave history.
For those who don't know, the "hoopla" started because a neo-confederate walked into a historic black church and murdered nine people because he was lead to believe that blacks are "raping our women and taking over this country" by the vestigial remains of the White Citizens Council movement. The uproar isn't over displaying the flag per se but about it being flown by and incorporated into the flags of several southern states. It would be like if Germany started flying the Nazi flag again to honor "German heritage" while claiming it had nothing to do with anti-semitism and racism.
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That's funny you posted the General Lee as a symbol of Confederate recognition because (Idk exactly how up to date you are on this Confederate flag stuff over here) now many stations who air Dukes reruns are now pulling them from their schedules in order to jump on the anti-Confederate flag bandwagon.
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Written by deadone on 04.07.2015 at 01:37
It's madness and political correctness taken too far.
The Civil War finished 150 years ago and they're only now trying to push for a banning of it? What next, ban the Union Jack cause it's a symbol of oppression and taxation without representation?
Yup. Unfortunately we've become a nation of greedy crybabies.
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