Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.12.2009 at 00:38

Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18


1. Warning - Watching From A Distance
I don't get what is so great about this album. Maybe it requires for the listener to be over 30?

I remember it being one of your top albums of 2007 So that means you have changed your mind quite a bit about it.
And yes maybe one has to be over 30 to fully appreciate it, like Craig said: I have a greater sense of loss and regret... and that sense of loss and regret only increases with the years. This album truly epitomizes that for me. After having played the album till death since its release it is still growing on me, so it is probably safe to say that currently this album is the single greatest piece of metal art ever created for me.

Well, I never felt like listening to it again after 2007, which doesnt so much mean I changed my mind as that it didnt stand the test of time...

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.12.2009 at 00:38

Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18


1. Warning - Watching From A Distance
I don't get what is so great about this album. Maybe it requires for the listener to be over 30?

I remember it being one of your top albums of 2007 So that means you have changed your mind quite a bit about it.
And yes maybe one has to be over 30 to fully appreciate it, like Craig said: I have a greater sense of loss and regret... and that sense of loss and regret only increases with the years. This album truly epitomizes that for me. After having played the album till death since its release it is still growing on me, so it is probably safe to say that currently this album is the single greatest piece of metal art ever created for me.

it topped my list as well - and my list was actually listed in the super secret MS cave prior to Marcel's... so i'm not copying him. although the fact that there are four albums found in both our top 10's make it look like one of us copied off the other.

as for the album and hte "over 30" dig...

i think there is a lot of truth to it. the consistent theme of the album is a sense of loss, regret, and longing.

you younger whippersnappers have your whole lives in front of you. the world is your oyster. anything can happen. blah blah blah insert cheesy saying here...

once you start getting long in the tooth, those options, chances, and sense of youthful invincibility slowly evaporate around you. you won't even notice as it's going on. ultimately one day you'll look in te mirror and just think, "what happened?" looking back on past decisions that perhaps didn't seem so big at the time, you find yourself wondering if you made the right call. you look forward and realize you are just that much closer to wormfood and it's just too late for many of your aspirations of youth to take root.

i think that is why this album seems to perhaps resonate a little more with us older folk.

and the funny thing is i'm not even a depressed/depressing guy. love my wife, love my dogs, love my friends, like my house. i'm the life of the fucking party.

yet even i have that underlying morose sense of loss/regret looking back and dread looking forward.

Watching From A Distance speaks to those feelings and the ultimate realization there is pretty much fuck-all you can do about it now.

Written by BitterCOld on 16.12.2009 at 02:04

once you start getting long in the tooth, those options, chances, and sense of youthful invincibility slowly evaporate around you. you won't even notice as it's going on. ultimately one day you'll look in te mirror and just think, "what happened?" looking back on past decisions that perhaps didn't seem so big at the time, you find yourself wondering if you made the right call. you look forward and realize you are just that much closer to wormfood and it's just too late for many of your aspirations of youth to take root.

Very well said, that's the 'I'm 30' syndrome.
So maybe I'll have to listen to this album finally - come on, you don't want me to mess with my top 100 again?

Written by BitterCOld on 16.12.2009 at 02:04

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.12.2009 at 00:38

Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18


1. Warning - Watching From A Distance
I don't get what is so great about this album. Maybe it requires for the listener to be over 30?

I remember it being one of your top albums of 2007 So that means you have changed your mind quite a bit about it.
And yes maybe one has to be over 30 to fully appreciate it, like Craig said: I have a greater sense of loss and regret... and that sense of loss and regret only increases with the years. This album truly epitomizes that for me. After having played the album till death since its release it is still growing on me, so it is probably safe to say that currently this album is the single greatest piece of metal art ever created for me.

as for the album and hte "over 30" dig...

i think there is a lot of truth to it. the consistent theme of the album is a sense of loss, regret, and longing.

you younger whippersnappers have your whole lives in front of you. the world is your oyster. anything can happen. blah blah blah insert cheesy saying here...

once you start getting long in the tooth, those options, chances, and sense of youthful invincibility slowly evaporate around you. you won't even notice as it's going on. ultimately one day you'll look in te mirror and just think, "what happened?" looking back on past decisions that perhaps didn't seem so big at the time, you find yourself wondering if you made the right call. you look forward and realize you are just that much closer to wormfood and it's just too late for many of your aspirations of youth to take root.

i think that is why this album seems to perhaps resonate a little more with us older folk.

and the funny thing is i'm not even a depressed/depressing guy. love my wife, love my dogs, love my friends, like my house. i'm the life of the fucking party.

yet even i have that underlying morose sense of loss/regret looking back and dread looking forward.

Watching From A Distance speaks to those feelings and the ultimate realization there is pretty much fuck-all you can do about it now.

But.... if it reminds you of those bad things, why do you like it so much? Personally, if something made me think like that, I'd avoid it like it was a Trivium album.

I think Calculating Infinity was released in 1999. Great album though

I think Warning's Watching From A Distance just requires abit of getting into..hence probably more listens than normal to appreciate it. That said, I too would have it under my top 10 metal album list..and am not yet even 25.Ha!

Written by Dangerboner on 24.12.2009 at 07:22

I think Calculating Infinity was released in 1999. Great album though

Yep, you're right. Will have to remove it and move everything up a spot and find a new nr. 100.

I wonder how it snuck in there. So, why I thought it was from 2000.

Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18


1. Warning - Watching From A Distance
I don't get what is so great about this album. Maybe it requires for the listener to be over 30?

Ehehhh no!! I'm not over 30 yet and I really appreciate the unique vocals of it. I only think that you need a particular mental predisposition to really understand the emotions that some masterpieces communicate. So many great albums are "for a few" and they will remain.

What a pleasant stroll down memory lane... Sons of Northern Darkness, Dolorian, Tears of Mortal Solitudie ... and it's nice to see After Forever getting a shout-out down there, too! I'd definitely swap the two Primordial albums, though, Gathering Wilderness was faaaar superior!


And this couldn't be more true:

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.12.2009 at 19:28

Of course my tastes differ immensely from som other staffers. For example that of Bas and the one of Jupitreas

Nice list. I don't agree with everything (and especially not with Warning as #1) but there's nothing really shocking to me. Also, I'm a bit surprised because knowing your current taste I expected less variation. But, did you really not include any Detonation in this list?

Written by Deadsoulman on 07.01.2010 at 14:41

Nice list. I don't agree with everything (and especially not with Warning as #1) but there's nothing really shocking to me. Also, I'm a bit surprised because knowing your current taste I expected less variation. But, did you really not include any Detonation in this list?

Although I am a big fan of Detonation, as you know, I don't consider any of their three albums top-100 of the decade worthy. Top 150, yes. Hadn't I heard this huge amount of albums over the past decade they would of course have made it.

Written by Dangerboner on 16.12.2009 at 08:27


But.... if it reminds you of those bad things, why do you like it so much? Personally, if something made me think like that, I'd avoid it like it was a Trivium album.

weird, never got around to responding.

it is not that the album reminds me of such things, they are there in my head and they surface from time to time, whether or not i'm listening to sad Warning, happy-fun Ska Punk, or whatever.

the late, great John Lee Hooker once said of the music he devoted his life to, "The Blues is a Healer". hearing someone else sing of their hard times helps people with their own issues.

within metal, imbo, Doom is the healer.

this album offers commiseration. listening to someone else sing of his loss and regrets helps remove walls of alienation. "this guy has been through similar, he gets it. he understands." type thing.

that make any sense?

That's pretty much why I think that doom can be very uplifting at times...

Written by Glabrezu on 26.12.2009 at 21:30

I really appreciate the unique vocals of it.

It's spelt whiny, w-h-i-n-y

Written by Deadsoulman on 08.01.2010 at 13:05

Written by Glabrezu on 26.12.2009 at 21:30

I really appreciate the unique vocals of it.

It's spelt whiny, w-h-i-n-y

One who is deaf would call it whiny People with taste would call it emotive and full of soul
For true whiny vocals go and listen to the last couple of My Dying Bride albums.

Whiny, emotive, same difference

Somehow I don't mind whininess in MDB but I can't get into Warning because of the vocals. Strange, innit?

Damn.. That IS weird, because I always think of MDB's vocals when I hear the word whiny.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 09.01.2010 at 02:01

Damn.. That IS weird, because I always think of MDB's vocals when I hear the word whiny.

Aaron Stainthorpe defines whiny. I didn't say MDB aren't whiny, I said that their whininess doesn't bother me, while Warning's does

I didnt see In Mourning in any list.

I read all staffers list and Marcels is closser to mine if I shood do, ok I never ever would pic up bets of decaude because 10 years , I might do it since 2004 2000 I was in metal but only what I can get whit out i net and live like 80's where peoploe made coppies ... so this list is realy good many bands what I like I can maybe pic 5 what I dont like , but for me ist be hard make top 50 for year and top 100 for decade ehhh

Dismal and Baz (not all) was good to

Oh I never knew you may like Melechesh.. Specially when it's Emissaries. And when it's number 14 in your list make me more surprised.. Anyway for me it's a masterpiece.. Best shape of folk metal I've ever heard.

One of the best such lists I've seen, and I'm not comparing to just this site but to any site or publication. Many different styles of metal and I agree with many of the choices and many more I will have to look into.

Marcel my friend, it's "Austral Alien", not "Asian". I agree that asian girls are hot, but still...

Great list, basically agree with everything I had heard from it, especially when it comes to doom. I was surprised to see Indesinence though, I remember having some discussions with you about that band, I thought you didn't like them that much.

Written by Sang Dalang Abu on 04.12.2017 at 15:54

Can you update your list to: 2000-2017?

Nope, because this list is for the first decade of this cantury.

Written by Sang Dalang Abu on 04.12.2017 at 15:54

Can you update your list to: 2000-2017?

He will never be able to. Marcel has passed.

Wow, that's really sad to hear, i'm sure he introduced me to many of his picks in this list. RIP