X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Quote: An American band that plays good black metal? There are not many
Bro, do you even black?
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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I'd assume this was what you wanted me to edit. Sorry, man, but glad someone else helped you out! Good review, I really loved the debut, but I just have to point out a few things here...
1. I'm with Rod, to say there aren't many good American BM bands is really indicative of an unawareness of American BM. WITTR, Leviathan, Judas Iscariot, Arizmenda, Nachymstium, Murmur, Falls Of Rauros... I could go on. I'm not sure if that statement reflects your distaste with a lot of American BM or not, but even from an objective standpoint, there are plenty that are considered as quite formidable within the international scene as a whole right now.
2. The term "hipster" black metal. I'm pretty sure you're not using it negatively, so no beef with you, but I know a lot of people use "indie BM" or "hipster BM" in an almost derogatory way to refer to black metal that is boldly innovative or experimental. Ya know, just the maintenance of that "trve and kvlt" bullshit. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.... god forbid the music evolves beyond the stale and rather rigid confines of the bands that originally spawned it into a fresh and new identity for itself.
3. I have never heard any grindcore influence in Sannhet whatsoever, but then again I haven't listened to this one yet, so things could possibly be different here?
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flightoficarus Stamp Tramp
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I really just do not like this style at all, and despite sounding like a genre douche, I hate that it is called BM. There are tons of bands out there that have played this type of music that were content to call it other things, but one day some guy makes it just a touch harsher and decides he knows what BM is. That aside, there are some standouts in this niche. I particularly appreciated the latest Bosse de Nage. The amazing drums and emotive vocals made up for my usual prejudice. Also some standout moments on Moonlover. Sannhet didn't really do it for me though.
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Malignar
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Pretty good background music. I think it's a bit of a stretch calling this black metal. I don't do hipster US genres very often so I don't know what to call this. Maybe I need to be into this type of music more to appreciate it enough to give it a 9. I just have a tough time giving an album a high score with almost zero "riffs".
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
22.05.2015 - 17:38Rating: 9
Written by Auntie Sahar on 22.05.2015 at 16:51
I'd assume this was what you wanted me to edit. Sorry, man, but glad someone else helped you out! Good review, I really loved the debut, but I just have to point out a few things here...
1. I'm with Rod, to say there aren't many good American BM bands is really indicative of an unawareness of American BM. WITTR, Leviathan, Judas Iscariot, Arizmenda, Nachymstium, Murmur, Falls Of Rauros... I could go on. I'm not sure if that statement reflects your distaste with a lot of American BM or not, but even from an objective standpoint, there are plenty that are considered as quite formidable within the international scene as a whole right now.
2. The term "hipster" black metal. I'm pretty sure you're not using it negatively, so no beef with you, but I know a lot of people use "indie BM" or "hipster BM" in an almost derogatory way to refer to black metal that is boldly innovative or experimental. Ya know, just the maintenance of that "trve and kvlt" bullshit. Just a personal pet peeve of mine.... god forbid the music evolves beyond the stale and rather rigid confines of the bands that originally spawned it into a fresh and new identity for itself.
3. I have never heard any grindcore influence in Sannhet whatsoever, but then again I haven't listened to this one yet, so things could possibly be different here?
1. My bad Che and Rod, I didn't mean to stir the pot. I guess I should have said "this type of black metal" - type meaning "hipster" or "gazey" or even "post-black". I really can't think of many American bands doing this type of BM really well, I am in love with this "sound" at the moment. Lantlos, Alcest, This Social Coil, Les Discrets, An Autumn For Crippled Children, Harakiri For The Sky...all of them are over in Europe.
2. I think "hipster" shouldn't be taken negatively - it's fine for describing what this genre movement is right now - I just don't like to use it.
3. There are bits of grindcore here and there ...maybe the blast beat drumming and quick time changes in some of the songs. Abrasive, crust punk type stuff.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
22.05.2015 - 17:40Rating: 9
Written by Malignar on 22.05.2015 at 17:08
Pretty good background music. I think it's a bit of a stretch calling this black metal. I don't do hipster US genres very often so I don't know what to call this. Maybe I need to be into this type of music more to appreciate it enough to give it a 9. I just have a tough time giving an album a high score with almost zero "riffs".
Its black metal none the less. A loose term? Sure. But this is a sub genre of extreme black metal - at least that is what I am seeing all over the net. Give Lantlos - Melting Sun a try.
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Silent Creeper Senile Veteran
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22.05.2015 - 21:06Rating: 8
Blackened post-rock/metal maybe but too little black metal elements to call it [something-]black metal. Also this term "hipster" is getting thrown around a lot these days...
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scaesura
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Written by tea[m]ster on 22.05.2015 at 17:40
Written by Malignar on 22.05.2015 at 17:08
Pretty good background music. I think it's a bit of a stretch calling this black metal. I don't do hipster US genres very often so I don't know what to call this. Maybe I need to be into this type of music more to appreciate it enough to give it a 9. I just have a tough time giving an album a high score with almost zero "riffs".
Its black metal none the less. A loose term? Sure. But this is a sub genre of extreme black metal - at least that is what I am seeing all over the net. Give Lantlos - Melting Sun a try.
Melting Sun is a terrible album, and much closer to grunge or that sort of heavy 90s rock than anything else. The first Lantlos album is and will always be both his best, and most original.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
23.05.2015 - 00:06Rating: 7
Was excited for this at the start of the year, still need to check it out. really enjoyed Known Flood
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Zap
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I wanted to comment on that intro, but the rest of the review got me intrigued so I'll let it slide.
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Diverge
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Interesting rating, tea[m]ster! I faintly recall that I wasn't that astonished with Known Flood when I first encountered it, but your rating and review have justified giving the band a second try. Thank you, my friend!
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Actually I like this, some kind a good, no vocals, and BM ... I remember MS news posted album online. I liked it
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