I guess one of them can lead to the other, though. We all should know people who get angry when you point out Germany's historic responsibility.

I see. Yes, that distinction is important

I think we're talking about different things. I'm talking about making your country YOUR identity. Not acknowledging a country's history.

yeah I see how nationalism can be misused. But I think it's very extreme to essentially get rid of all national identity. That would include getting rid of a nation's history and culture, which is all intertwined in a national ID

Nationalism has always been a tool to subvert a democratic and free society. It is straight out of the fascist handbook. Align the people's wants and needs with the country's

I don't think I can reduce several books on these matters into a few shouts, but I am confused how you can manage to grow up in Germany of all places and not understand this

Countries are made up social constructs that don't have an agenda other than their current political leadership's. If you start revering a flag, you forget to think critically about it