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21:57 - IronAngel

Indeed, many argue (rightly or wrongly) that some forms of immigration threaten secular liberal western democracies and erode social cohesion and individual liberties (people can care about both), as does fascism. Reasonable-ish.

21:55 - IronAngel

Empirically, MOST people object to fascism, and MANY people have varying degrees of reservation about immigration, and internally coherent world views to make sense of it. Right or wrong, this is not a surprising combination.

21:53 - IronAngel

Just because there is some connection between colonialism and fascism (not necessary, unless you revise the terms extremely) doesn't mean anti-fascism means embracing post-colonial theory and all immigration (your point, it seemed

21:42 - corrupt

Fascism didn't suddenly appear on the world stage out of nothing, there are precursors all through history. I'm sorry it bothers you that we as a society keep learning to understand our history and developing more precise language

21:38 - corrupt

There is also 100 years of research into fascism, its structures, and its systems. If all you do is argue semantics and draw lines through history where convenient, we don't have anything to talk about here.

21:32 - Kirinyale

Slapping modern labels on it all doesn't achieve much. Especially considering that even modern definition of genocide was watered down to please USSR.

21:30 - Kirinyale

Modern idea of human rights is less than 100 years old. Pretty much the whole human history before that (and a lot of it after) is full of things that people in modern democracies find despicable and savage. It was the sad norm.

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