And another one.
Btw I'd rather call Exhorder thrashers instead of groove metallers. That last term has such a negative connotation.

Sad news indeed, I hope it doesn't stop Exhorder becoming active again.

R.I.P. dude.
thanks for the music.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.03.2011 at 11:53

And another one.

Indeed. RIP!

Death count keeps going up. People dying has become a weekly routine in metal.

I don;t know what to say anymore really.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.03.2011 at 11:53

And another one.
Btw I'd rather call Exhorder thrashers instead of groove metallers. That last term has such a negative connotation.

I think some people refer to them as the fathers of groove. While modern groove indeed carries a negative connotation, these guys were a lot more aggressive and sounded a lot tighter than most groove bands these days.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.03.2011 at 12:46

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.03.2011 at 11:53

And another one.
Btw I'd rather call Exhorder thrashers instead of groove metallers. That last term has such a negative connotation.

I think some people refer to them as the fathers of groove. While modern groove indeed carries a negative connotation, these guys were a lot more aggressive and sounded a lot tighter than most groove bands these days.

I knwo somehow people regard them as fathers of groove, which would only apply to the Law (which was quite mediocre imo) and not Slaughter In The Vatican (that one is pure aggressive thrash)
There is a lot of revisionism going on regarding this band and its so-called influence.

They don't mention the circumstances.

Written by RavenKing on 23.03.2011 at 13:26

They don't mention the circumstances.

It says that more information will be made available shortly.

This is sad news of course.

I do feel that "The Law" has become quite an overrated album these days, and I definitely dont think Pantera copied them, despite what many try and suggest. "Slaughter In The Vatican" is a great album though. xD

Written by Angelic Storm on 23.03.2011 at 13:59

I do feel that "The Law" has become quite an overrated album these days, and I definitely dont think Pantera copied them, despite what many try and suggest. "Slaughter In The Vatican" is a great album though. xD

Exactly. Exhorder and Phil were great friends and probably influenced each other.
I remember that on the Slaughter In The Vatican tour Kyle telling me to check out Pantera's new stuff cause that was awesome music.

Another? Sadly enough it does seem to be a weekly thing now. Fucking shame.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.03.2011 at 14:10
Exactly. Exhorder and Phil were great friends and probably influenced each other.
I remember that on the Slaughter In The Vatican tour Kyle telling me to check out Pantera's new stuff cause that was awesome music.

Yep! There's a difference between "being influenced by", and "ripping off". Though Exhorder were probably just as much influenced by Pantera as the other way around. Anyhows, "The Law" was released in 1992, so I fail to see how that could really have been that much of an influence on Pantera. CFH had already been released 2 years prior to that, and "A Vulgar Display Of Power" was actually released before "The Law", and both were released in the same year.

Besides, I've never thought that Pantera sounded much like Exhorder at all, so where some imagined Pantera had "ripped them off", I'll never know.

Not listened to this band before but its sad to hear more terrible news RIP

Yeah, maybe you're not aware of it yet, but metalheads die too. RIP Frankie.

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Written by Angelic Storm on 23.03.2011 at 14:54

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.03.2011 at 14:10
Exactly. Exhorder and Phil were great friends and probably influenced each other.
I remember that on the Slaughter In The Vatican tour Kyle telling me to check out Pantera's new stuff cause that was awesome music.

Yep! There's a difference between "being influenced by", and "ripping off". Though Exhorder were probably just as much influenced by Pantera as the other way around. Anyhows, "The Law" was released in 1992, so I fail to see how that could really have been that much of an influence on Pantera. CFH had already been released 2 years prior to that, and "A Vulgar Display Of Power" was actually released before "The Law", and both were released in the same year.

Besides, I've never thought that Pantera sounded much like Exhorder at all, so where some imagined Pantera had "ripped them off", I'll never know.

I think the band were influenced by Exhorder in some ways, At least Phil, was as you can see by this pic


Its not like he is denying the fact they were an influence to them. Influenced by ? Probably..... Stole Their Sound ? No way.. Saying the band directly ripped them off most of the times comes off as the historical revisionism that makes Pantera a target for the TROO'er than thou Elitists that populate the MA review's of Pantera albums.

Ranting aside though .... its a shame their bassist has passed away RIP man

Pantera were hardly a rip off band, they did far more with the sound than Exhorder did, who were kinda bland if you ask me.

I didn't realise the term groove metal had become a slur. It isn't to me anyway. I guess I don't hang around the MA forums enough.

Anyway RIP dude.

Fuck. R.I.P. Brother

Again, another one, R.I.P

RIP.