Oh Christ, as a huge fan of VE and an even bigger fan of Katatonia's latest sound, this could be heaven on earth for me.

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Our long lost mission objective will finally be completed! The album may now take that climb, in terms of audio quality, to be right up there proudly positioned beside it's younger 'album brethren' - The Great Cold Distance, Night Is The New Day and finally Dead End Kings.

oh we're fucked now. What some of were afraid of is indeed going to happen, tey'll make the remix remaster of Viva Emptiness a totally lifeless affair. When will bands learn to NOT remix remaster older albums when those sounded just fine to great, which VE did.

It may get even worse. They may say that the remastered version is what they intended the album to sound in the first place...

What exactly is it that many people don't like about their new sound? Is it too soft? Too much emphasis on keyboards? Not enought guitar?
I'm just curious, not trying to start Ponderer thread here.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.06.2013 at 13:24

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Our long lost mission objective will finally be completed! The album may now take that climb, in terms of audio quality, to be right up there proudly positioned beside it's younger 'album brethren' - The Great Cold Distance, Night Is The New Day and finally Dead End Kings.

oh we're fucked now. What some of were afraid of is indeed going to happen, tey'll make the remix remaster of Viva Emptiness a totally lifeless affair.

That was my exact reaction. At first I thought "ok, just a remaster... it will be unnecesary but it's not like they will get into their latest sterile sound, right?" and now I feel like I just got punched in the face.

FUCK audiophiles and FUCK their sense of production.

Written by IronArkadius on 19.06.2013 at 14:31

What exactly is it that many people don't like about their new sound? Is it too soft? Too much emphasis on keyboards? Not enought guitar?
I'm just curious, not trying to start Ponderer thread here.

the new sound I mean the production used. Which is just bland and totally without any dynamics and no raw edge to it, not even in the slightest.

Written by IronArkadius on 19.06.2013 at 14:31
What exactly is it that many people don't like about their new sound? Is it too soft? Too much emphasis on keyboards? Not enought guitar?

Simple: The last 3 albums (specially the latest)... The production is sterile, completely devoid of any feeling. Like if they just made it in the laboratory. Nothing organic about it whatsoever. It has absolutely nothing to do with softness, keys or guitars. Everything just sounds lifeless.

I'm curious as to what the remaster of Viva Emptiness will sound like, but I think I will probably stick with my original copy. I think the original sounds fine the way it is, but I don't see this as a "George Lucas move" since their new sound is actually good anyway, I imagine it would be like Opeth remastering the "Still Life" album or something.

Damn...hate it when bands get to this point! Katatonia has been my favorite band since VE..not really a fan of their last two albums though. Hopefully they don't pull an Opeth...

I'm curious about Dethroned & Uncrowned but I like Viva Emptiness the way it is, thank you. It is also my favourite Katatonia album, so I'm not too keen on the remaster.

Would love if they played it in its entirety in Portugal though (please!)

Written by CobiWan1993 on 19.06.2013 at 14:42

I'm curious as to what the remaster of Viva Emptiness will sound like, but I think I will probably stick with my original copy. I think the original sounds fine the way it is, but I don't see this as a "George Lucas move" since their new sound is actually good anyway, I imagine it would be like Opeth remastering the "Still Life" album or something.

Spot on. Im hoping that the new remastered version comes with some extra goodies, Digibook, sticker, poster etc...

£28 to see Paradise Lost put the whole room to sleep, but not before we get Katatonia's best album played probably with the sound used for the recent albums. No thanks.

Written by [user id=4365] on 19.06.2013 at 21:02

£28 to see Paradise Lost put the whole room to sleep, but not before we get Katatonia's best album played probably with the sound used for the recent albums. No thanks.

Well, I saw them playing two songs from VE a few months ago and it sounded great. But yeah, I dunno...

Written by X-Ray Rod on 19.06.2013 at 21:04

Well, I saw them playing two songs from VE a few months ago and it sounded great. But yeah, I dunno...

I probably still won't go

Written by [user id=4365] on 19.06.2013 at 21:06
I probably still won't go

I honestly wouldn't go either but not because of Katatonia... I just can't spend money on modern Paradise Lost and Lacuna Coil.

This is redicilus, band rejects and forgots they roots and real true classics ''Dance Of december Souls'' and ''Brave/Murder/Day'' rest from this band is one big shit.... band is deat to me only real classics lives , rest is to start a fire. AH burned books in berlin in 1938 IMO, we shood burn fake band albums

^Meh, Viva Emptiness is just as much of a classic as their first two albums.

Written by Opethian on 19.06.2013 at 20:28

Written by CobiWan1993 on 19.06.2013 at 14:42

I'm curious as to what the remaster of Viva Emptiness will sound like, but I think I will probably stick with my original copy. I think the original sounds fine the way it is, but I don't see this as a "George Lucas move" since their new sound is actually good anyway, I imagine it would be like Opeth remastering the "Still Life" album or something.

Spot on. Im hoping that the new remastered version comes with some extra goodies, Digibook, sticker, poster etc...

That'd be cool!

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Simple: The last 3 albums (specially the latest)... The production is sterile, completely devoid of any feeling. Like if they just made it in the laboratory. Nothing organic about it whatsoever. It has absolutely nothing to do with softness, keys or guitars. Everything just sounds lifeless.

Hmmm... I agree that DEK sounds a bit lifeless sometimes (Leech, Hypnone, Dead Letters) but NITND sounds really full to me, especially on tracks like "The Longest Year" and "Day And Then The Shade". But I supposes I am a tad biased as NITND is the album that got me into Katatonia, I have to thank it for that.

Written by [user id=4365] on 19.06.2013 at 21:02

£28 to see Paradise Lost put the whole room to sleep, but not before we get Katatonia's best album played probably with the sound used for the recent albums. No thanks.

Haha, as a casual fan of Paradise Lost but a huge fan of "Draconian Times", this is unfortunately too true for words. When they opened for Katatonia in the US last fall, they only played one song from that album, "Enchantment", arguably one of the most boring openers to a great album ever. They could have picked any other more exciting song from that album to include in their set, i.e. "Hallowed Land", or even better, "Once Solemn", but noooo.

Written by Swietowit11 on 21.06.2013 at 14:52

Written by [user id=4365] on 19.06.2013 at 21:02

£28 to see Paradise Lost put the whole room to sleep, but not before we get Katatonia's best album played probably with the sound used for the recent albums. No thanks.

Haha, as a casual fan of Paradise Lost but a huge fan of "Draconian Times", this is unfortunately too true for words. When they opened for Katatonia in the US last fall, they only played one song from that album, "Enchantment", arguably one of the most boring openers to a great album ever. They could have picked any other more exciting song from that album to include in their set, i.e. "Hallowed Land", or even better, "Once Solemn", but noooo.

I remember Paradise Lost played "Forever Failure" when I went to see them with Katatonia last fall.

Katatonia has had some blunders in the past, but for the most part they are quite good. Hopefully this will be a good choice.