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I'm sure some are going to start calling this an unnecessary action and overreach on the part of the festival organizers. I'm not going to elaborate upon where I stand on this, but one thing is for certain.... the world is a very different place in 2016 than it was even 20 years ago. And the consequences of this type of behavior that Phil displayed are becoming more and more severe. For better or for worse? Well... that's up for debate and discussion.
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I applaud FortaRock for their decision. As Robb Flynn said, it's about time that people (including veteran icons) start actually having to pay the piper when they do stupid, insensitive shit (like screaming "WHITE! POWER!" in front of a huge audience with cameras).
It kind of sucks for Down that they are having to pay with him, but it's also one of those things where the bands he's in do actually need to suffer a little bit too for not trying to keep him inline, for not getting onto him about drinking so much that he's saying all manner of stupidities that he should know better than to say. Especially than to be screaming at the top of his lungs, in front of audience, who all have cameras a cell phones in video mode, and as his final "hoorah" to end the show, especially at a show that is intended to dispel hate.
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There was some band was kicked out from DDD or other fest because was using animal blood, or wait was it band refused play ?
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Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:18
There was some band was kicked out from DDD or other fest because was using animal blood, or wait was it band refused play ?
DDD? 
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2016 at 23:25
Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:18
There was some band was kicked out from DDD or other fest because was using animal blood, or wait was it band refused play ?
DDD?
I read in MS news 4 years ago maybe older, I think I moved to SWe and still was in my original country Caiman islands, one band was banned from playing in festival in Ned, because animal blood, or super band did not played there, cant remember what was real reason
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Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:27
I read in MS news 4 years ago maybe older, I think I moved to SWe and still was in my original country Caiman islands, one band was banned from playing in festival in Ned, because animal blood, or super band did not played there, cant remember what was real reason
Nope. Never happened.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2016 at 23:29
Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:27
I read in MS news 4 years ago maybe older, I think I moved to SWe and still was in my original country Caiman islands, one band was banned from playing in festival in Ned, because animal blood, or super band did not played there, cant remember what was real reason
Nope. Never happened.
Maybe not in DDD, but some festival, it was in ms news in old days
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Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:35
Maybe not in DDD, but some festival, it was in ms news in old days
No band was banned from playing a festival in the Netherlands for using animal blood. What did happen was that, I think it was The Devil's Blood, was asked to play last instead of earlier on in the day because of their use of blood because of the cleaning up that would have to be done before the bands after them came on stage. But that;s it.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2016 at 23:37
Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:35
Maybe not in DDD, but some festival, it was in ms news in old days
No band was banned from playing a festival in the Netherlands for using animal blood. What did happen was that, I think it was The Devil's Blood, was asked to play last instead of earlier on in the day because of their use of blood because of the cleaning up that would have to be done before the bands after them came on stage. But that;s it.
might be, like I said, I don't remember, I remembered this fact but I don't remember what happened
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Btw a concert in bands home town NO in L was canceled to ... read a most famous news site and then google for official news
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Sucks for the fans!
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2016 at 23:29
Written by Bad English on 04.02.2016 at 23:27
I read in MS news 4 years ago maybe older, I think I moved to SWe and still was in my original country Caiman islands, one band was banned from playing in festival in Ned, because animal blood, or super band did not played there, cant remember what was real reason
Nope. Never happened.
I think he's referring to Cathedral pulling out of a festival appearance cause they didn't agree with The Devil's Blood use of pig blood. Not the same as being banned.
http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=13797
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If you're going to say something that extreme, you need to be willing to accept an opposite and equal reaction. I am glad that people seem to be taking these things more seriously. That said, I am actually pleased with Phil's apology, BUT it needs to be be backed with "action," just like he said. Words are words.
On a more humorous note, did anyone else think back to this?
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Written by Spirit of dead on 05.02.2016 at 00:05
I think he's referring to Cathedral pulling out of a festival appearance cause they didn't agree with The Devil's Blood use of pig blood. Not the same as being banned.
http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=13797
yes that's the case bu 1th I thought Devils Blood was banned because of it, I rememberd this news like in lats moment , now I remember story
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If his excuses are sincere (and not simply a way to limit the consequences for the band as much as possible), I must congratulate him. It takes some humility to apologize like that.
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He is a dumb redneck. Nothing else , nothing more.
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Because of this, they give money to the Jewish Federation? Really? Isn´t that ironic?
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Can we just take a moment to realise how fantastic this line in the statement was by the New Orleans venue?
"We do not tolerate intolerant behavior"
How tolerant of you!
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Written by Doge of Venice on 05.02.2016 at 23:50
Can we just take a moment to realise how fantastic this line in the statement was by the New Orleans venue?
"We do not tolerate intolerant behavior"
How tolerant of you!
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom
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Written by flightoficarus on 05.02.2016 at 02:15
If you're going to say something that extreme, you need to be willing to accept an opposite and equal reaction. I am glad that people seem to be taking these things more seriously. That said, I am actually pleased with Phil's apology, BUT it needs to be be backed with "action," just like he said. Words are words.
On a more humorous note, did anyone else think back to this?
hajaja, not before but now that u posted the clip yes
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Written by Doge of Venice on 05.02.2016 at 23:50
Can we just take a moment to realise how fantastic this line in the statement was by the New Orleans venue?
"We do not tolerate intolerant behavior"
How tolerant of you!
I was just thinking the same.
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Written by RaduP on 06.02.2016 at 01:28
Written by Doge of Venice on 05.02.2016 at 23:50
Can we just take a moment to realise how fantastic this line in the statement was by the New Orleans venue?
"We do not tolerate intolerant behavior"
How tolerant of you!
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom
I understand that, for sure. It's just kinda funny on paper.
I'm also a much too tolerant human being for my own good.
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