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Posted by Baz Anderson, 15.11.2012 - 04:57
Ibrahimović scored an amazing goal (of four!) against us today.



England were 2-1 up at half time, but then we substituted on four/five real young and inexperienced players. Joe Hart had a terrible game too.
06.07.2014 - 05:15
Mattybu
Yeah, I understand the scepticism Hammy.

And Marcel, nationality is fairly irrelevant, I was a good enough player to get scouted by an agency that offers sports scholarships back in the day and penalty kicks is just one aspect of the game. A close shot on a giant net isn't all that hard.
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06.07.2014 - 10:46
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Van Gaal is a genius. Throughout this world cup, I've noticed a team spirit that hasn't existed in the Dutch team now for a long time, and I think Van Gaal needs to take at least some of the credit for that.
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06.07.2014 - 11:50
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Angelic Storm on 06.07.2014 at 10:46

Van Gaal is a genius. Throughout this world cup, I've noticed a team spirit that hasn't existed in the Dutch team now for a long time, and I think Van Gaal needs to take at least some of the credit for that.

He is genius and can make team play, evemn duchbag Robben play in team iterests and give some passes more as usually ... but Ned needs Robben, he is unplaceble

Ned pens was cold blood corner kicks,
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06.07.2014 - 17:48
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Tage Westerlund
Angel de Maria is out for rest of WC
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09.07.2014 - 01:00
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Tage Westerlund
Brazil 1-7 Germany
what can I say, I dont know what happened, Brazil was weaker in whole tournament long, if Chile would have better goalkeeper , Chile would be there ,
This game its history it will never be re written, never in next WC non team in the semies will win whit such result, and also not host nation loose
I think Brazilians before tournament demandet team win, win win, players did not cope, since Maracana 1950 Ghost is haunting whole nation... but now what can happen whit players, in the streets now? players are crushed, Scolari was pissed and scream to some players, can they play in the bronze game? I dont think, it will be good, I hope not as for some Bra players what die poor and made nation glory , some way I understand why many shines in the club, but well .... cant comment much, history is re written Ronaldo retired 15 goals total, Miroslav Kloze 16 .... and he beat brazilian record against brazil in their soil,,,, symbolism?
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09.07.2014 - 01:01
Vombatus
Potorro
I guess Brazil isn't much without Thiago Silva, Neymar and the referee. Enjoyed immensely the match, tactical crushing by the germans and it was even more surprising to see the second half, where they lowered sensibly the level (they were walking damn it !) and still managed to score another 2 goals. It's a good hint on how incapable the brasilians are and man, am I glad they were humiliated.

For tomorrow, I don't mind who passes, but it'd be epic if the Netherlands did something similar to Argentina to make Messi cry
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09.07.2014 - 01:05
Slayer666
That was beautiful... Merciless crushing German style. Is this a record number of goals for a semi-final game?
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09.07.2014 - 01:55
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Vombatus on 09.07.2014 at 01:01



For tomorrow, I don't mind who passes, but it'd be epic if the Netherlands did something similar to Argentina to make Messi cry

I hope we do. We don't even have to humiliate them them I just want us to win and then have a repeat of the 1974 final and hopefully revenge that one. i think I cannot endure a fourth lost final in my lifetime watching the WC

Our record against Argentina is incredible. The Dutch have only lost one international match against them and that was in over time in... fuck that final still makes me cry... 1978
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09.07.2014 - 02:16
Mattybu
That game where Brazil just got gone macho on is a little confusing... I guess they didn't want to risk Brazil moving on and losing by a slim margin in the finals, which would have caused riots. May have even been riots if they moved on and won. I wonder who paid them to let 7 goals in.
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09.07.2014 - 03:20
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.07.2014 at 01:55

Written by Vombatus on 09.07.2014 at 01:01



For tomorrow, I don't mind who passes, but it'd be epic if the Netherlands did something similar to Argentina to make Messi cry

I hope we do. We don't even have to humiliate them them I just want us to win and then have a repeat of the 1974 final and hopefully revenge that one. i think I cannot endure a fourth lost final in my lifetime watching the WC

Our record against Argentina is incredible. The Dutch have only lost one international match against them and that was in over time in... fuck that final still makes me cry... 1978

if you wanna revenge Mar del Plate it can be same as Brazil wanted revenge Maracana 1950 and same can happen if revenge will be about Munchen 1974
Those revengefor the past , can be bad, but I doubt ned has such preasure about MDP as brazilhas about 50'
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09.07.2014 - 03:21
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Slayer666 on 09.07.2014 at 01:05

That was beautiful... Merciless crushing German style. Is this a record number of goals for a semi-final game?

I think yes well Ger 8-0 Saudi Arabia in 2002 group stage but in the single game smie it is and seems it will be and never be broken
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09.07.2014 - 04:04
Ilham
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Written by Mattybu on 09.07.2014 at 02:16

That game where Brazil just got gone macho on is a little confusing... I guess they didn't want to risk Brazil moving on and losing by a slim margin in the finals, which would have caused riots. May have even been riots if they moved on and won. I wonder who paid them to let 7 goals in.

Dude, you were complaining there were not enough goals, now that you had a fuckton of those, you still found something to bitch about?
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09.07.2014 - 04:11
Mattybu
Written by Ilham on 09.07.2014 at 04:04

Written by Mattybu on 09.07.2014 at 02:16

That game where Brazil just got gone macho on is a little confusing... I guess they didn't want to risk Brazil moving on and losing by a slim margin in the finals, which would have caused riots. May have even been riots if they moved on and won. I wonder who paid them to let 7 goals in.

Dude, you were complaining there were not enough goals, now that you had a fuckton of those, you still found something to bitch about?

7 goals for a single side is just really suspicious to me, and considering how shady everything about the world cup is, it just doesn't make sense that a supposed contender gets crushed so badly. I'll always have something to complain about when it comes to soccer.

I didn't even watch the game, it's kind of impossible to avoid hearing people talk about it though.
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09.07.2014 - 04:35
Ilham
Giant robot
Written by Mattybu on 09.07.2014 at 04:11

7 goals for a single side is just really suspicious to me, and considering how shady everything about the world cup is, it just doesn't make sense that a supposed contender gets crushed so badly. I'll always have something to complain about when it comes to soccer.
I didn't even watch the game, it's kind of impossible to avoid hearing people talk about it though.

I didn't watch the game. But I'm that kind of person who likes to point at people's contradictions. I just wanted you to see it .
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09.07.2014 - 04:38
Mattybu
Written by Ilham on 09.07.2014 at 04:35

I didn't watch the game. But I'm that kind of person who likes to point at people's contradictions. I just wanted you to see it .

Fine, fine. You win this time.
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09.07.2014 - 04:47
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Mattybu on 09.07.2014 at 04:11
I didn't even watch the game, it's kind of impossible to avoid hearing people talk about it though.

I don't watch soccer at all but it's hard not to catch wind of it with the World Cup going on. I do remember seeing an info-graphic about the game that highlighted some interesting statistics though. The Germans were actually out-shot and they had less time on attack and less time with possession, which means either Germany capitalized on their opportunities while the Brazilians did not, or the game was rigged.

I'm not saying I think anything nefarious happened behind-the-scenes although I'm not surprised to hear people bringing up conspiracies considering the events surrounding this tournament.
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09.07.2014 - 05:06
Mattybu
Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.07.2014 at 04:47

Written by Mattybu on 09.07.2014 at 04:11
I didn't even watch the game, it's kind of impossible to avoid hearing people talk about it though.

I don't watch soccer at all but it's hard not to catch wind of it with the World Cup going on. I do remember seeing an info-graphic about the game that highlighted some interesting statistics though. The Germans were actually out-shot and they had less time on attack and less time with possession, which means either Germany capitalized on their opportunities while the Brazilians did not, or the game was rigged.

I'm not saying I think anything nefarious happened behind-the-scenes although I'm not surprised to hear people bringing up conspiracies considering the events surrounding this tournament.

The thing is, I obviously can't prove anything, but I believe that something went down behind the scenes.

The other thing is, from playing soccer myself, I remember there was one really good team my rep team used to face in tournaments a lot. The way soccer works in Ontario is there are "tiers" and we were in the 2nd tier of teams province wide and they were in the 1st. Aside from maybe 2 or 3 players on our team that could keep up, they were better top to bottom. But what we usually lost by was between 2 and 4 nothing. And that's with a noticeable difference in overall skill level of the teams. I see the world cup as even closer competition by this stage, no team is miles ahead of any other, so why is a team scoring 7 goals on another? I can't see any other explanation other than they didn't try, and to explain that, they may have been told not to try.

Or maybe Germany is just a super team made up the best players in the history of mankind throughout their entire roster.
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09.07.2014 - 05:22
Vombatus
Potorro
If you watched the match you'd notice there was nothing suspicious. Germany simply stomped Brazil in every single aspect of the game during the first half an hour, where they scored 5 of the 7 goals in 18 minutes of glorious football.

And I find it extremely funny that someone might think there was "something behind the scenes" to explain Brazil loosing when they played an abominable football since day 1 of the WC and own their previous success to the referees (and there, I am sure there was something "behind the scenes" so they would win against Croatia, Chile and Colombia even though they were clearly inferior).

Germany simply played much better, Brazil missed a lot their two best players (Silva and Neymar) and for once, the referee did his job.

It's not the first time you have scandalous results between to theoretically good/even teams, and It won't be the last.
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09.07.2014 - 05:28
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Vombatus on 09.07.2014 at 05:22
If you watched the match...

I think we made it clear that we didn't.
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09.07.2014 - 14:06
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
Written by Bad English on 09.07.2014 at 03:21

Written by Slayer666 on 09.07.2014 at 01:05

That was beautiful... Merciless crushing German style. Is this a record number of goals for a semi-final game?

I think yes well Ger 8-0 Saudi Arabia in 2002 group stage but in the single game smie it is and seems it will be and never be broken

Biggest result ever was in 1982 Hungary - El Salvador ins the group stages, the result was 10 - 1
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09.07.2014 - 14:16
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.07.2014 at 14:06

Biggest result ever was in 1982 Hungary - El Salvador ins the group stages, the result was 10 - 1

It as before my time... I hardly reeber 1994, 1th WC i remeber was in the France, i remeber something from Ec 1996

well there was CL in 61
simies
Eintracht Frankfurt 6-1 Glasgow Rangers
3-6 in Glasgow

final
Real madrid 7-3 Eintracht in the Hamnden park
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10.07.2014 - 01:56
Vombatus
Potorro
Wasted 2 hours of my life watching that "match". Germany, do us a favor and mercilessly obliterate Argentina.
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10.07.2014 - 02:49
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
MY FUCKING GOD this was the biggest borefest EVER. Neither team deserved to win. And yes I know I am Dutch hahahahahahahahahaha
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10.07.2014 - 02:49
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
Written by Vombatus on 10.07.2014 at 01:56

Wasted 2 hours of my life watching that "match". Germany, do us a favor and mercilessly obliterate Argentina.

Looking at how Argentina plays they should have never passed the group stage.

Btw with the so-called quality of the Dutch team neither should we
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10.07.2014 - 03:45
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Ambrish Saxena
I'm shooting this post at 6 in morning watching Argentina v/s Netherlands match all night. No matter what the results were, match was very very boring. I think from 68 to 84 I snoozed with my good heart and missed the action completely. I woke up by a call from bud saying "Hey, shoot outs expected, whadda you say?". Real fun came in penalties but by that time I was crushed. zzZzZ

I'm looking like zombie now and still got couple of hours left to catch my office.

Should I say good night?
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10.07.2014 - 13:17
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.07.2014 at 02:49

Written by Vombatus on 10.07.2014 at 01:56

Wasted 2 hours of my life watching that "match". Germany, do us a favor and mercilessly obliterate Argentina.

Looking at how Argentina plays they should have never passed the group stage.

Btw with the so-called quality of the Dutch team neither should we

but they did, boring and also 100% deebnding(bt this case) game works, final result is important
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10.07.2014 - 14:08
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Tage Westerlund
Argentina 1-0 PP Nederlands

What a game, non teams deserve to win, or both teams deserve a be in the final?
Dutchies need wait another 4 years, well this was more logical semi final, as it should be, but Germany's 7 goals ...both teams had weaker spots and stronger ones,
Why van Gaal made some change,why not goaly change again?
When it came to penalties I thought Ned will win,because S American goalies are much weaker when it comes to pens as Europeans. BTW IMO 2 or 3th dutchies it was possible to catch ... I didnt thought Sergio Romero will save 2, he did even seems he guessed and it was luck. BTW Lous van Gaal said it was he who teach him how to save

3th place game
Brazil vs Nederland
There no logic 3th place games dont make a sence, so it can happen all, because both wanted to be in the final, but Ned is better so I say they take

Gold
Argentina sv Germany
1986 same final Arg wons, Maradonna is hero... 1990 same final West Germany wons, now should it be Argentina? well last WC in quarters Ger 4-0 Arg
Now you never know, but Ger has better team , because Löw knows how to stop only panzerfaust what they have, Messi ... whit out him well Arg can play but .... I think Germany wins
But image Srgentina is winning n maracana, what is Brazilians holy temple almost like holy place, and brazilian arch enemy Argentina will win there ..... what can happen in the streats , because many from Buenos Aires will go
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10.07.2014 - 14:26
Vombatus
Potorro
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.07.2014 at 02:49

Looking at how Argentina plays they should have never passed the group stage.

Btw with the so-called quality of the Dutch team neither should we

I find the level of this WC really low. Not only do most teams play really boring, scared to give a goal away type of football, but even the results suck. Argentina: 1-0; 1-0; 0-0. Netherlands 2-1, 0-0; 0-0..... And even on groups stage were there are theoretically weak teams it doesn't get much better (Argentina was pathetic and could have easily gone home if they were a bit unlucky, Brazil, Uruguay, Belgium, Greece.... all the same). Only very memorable matches were Germany - Portuagal & Algeria and Spain - Netherlands (but that seemed more of an accident )

I guess modern football is just like that. It is a bit amusing that 4 years ago everyone criticized the fact that Spain won every knock-out match 1-0 even if they played really well (I think if those games were boring it was coz the opponent shat himself on and put 11 players behind the ball waiting for counter attack...) and somehow I'm seeing comments satisfied with the quality of this WC. I guess people have no fucking idea of what good football is.
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10.07.2014 - 14:30
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Vombatus on 10.07.2014 at 14:26

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.07.2014 at 02:49

Looking at how Argentina plays they should have never passed the group stage.

Btw with the so-called quality of the Dutch team neither should we

I find the level of this WC really low. Not only do most teams play really boring, scared to give a goal away type of football, but even the results suck. Argentina: 1-0; 1-0; 0-0. Netherlands 2-1, 0-0; 0-0..... And even on groups stage were there are theoretically weak teams it doesn't get much better (Argentina was pathetic and could have easily gone home if they were a bit unlucky, Brazil, Uruguay, Belgium, Greece.... all the same). Only very memorable matches were Germany - Portuagal & Algeria and Spain - Netherlands (but that seemed more of an accident )

I guess modern football is just like that. It is a bit amusing that 4 years ago everyone criticized the fact that Spain won every knock-out match 1-0 even if they played really well (I think if those games were boring it was coz the opponent shat himself on and put 11 players behind the ball waiting for counter attack...) and somehow I'm seeing comments satisfied with the quality of this WC. I guess people have no fucking idea of what good football is.

80's is over Maradona run around 8 defebders is over, Jurgen Klinsman game is over, defendersare stronger runs faster, it makes forvards job hard and goalies are so fit its hard tos core
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13.07.2014 - 03:12
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Tage Westerlund
Nederland 3-0 Brazil 3th place game
Not a surprise, I knew dutchies will win and Brazil started play when they got -2 goals... in begging I thought it will be same like 10-0 but Bra was better organized this time, but still its not surprise, against Croatia it was referee help, hard game and draw against Mexico, because of luck against Chile , well against Columbia was classic S American football, but again refs ...semies against Germany ... same time Ned played well all group games, but struggled in knock out Mexico, Costa Rica, then Arg, but performance was better,,, football is changing S America still likes play 90's game what was beautiful, but whit European its hard, we have fiscally better teams and older styile beautiful game dont works this time....question is is nation happy about wasit of milliards and 4th place, is it curse, maybe media and and grandfathers should not talk about Maracana 1950? maybe this generation wont tell about those 2 huge disasters, and in 2098 when WC might be there they can win at home Confederation cup winners never have won WC and I dont see in next WC winning any S American team
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