Written by Angelic Storm on 25.07.2010 at 21:26

Yeah, we get it, anything even slightly "mainstream'' sucks, and is ''unmetal''. *yawns*

Written by RavenKing on 26.07.2010 at 02:00
I think you missed my point completely. I meant that not all Powermetal bands are mainstream, though some definitely are. I was bringing nuance.

As for Metallica and Iron Maiden, I'm aware lots of people won't agree but, as far as I'm concerned, both suck for over 20 years and carry on only because of their name. They could wrap a turd in a plastic bag and some people would buy it, as long as the band logo is printed on the bag. That's how sad it is when it comes to big names. Too many one-cell brain sheeps who foolishly follow the herd without taking a few seconds to ask themselves "Is it good or not?".
I'm not saying all those who like recent Maiden are like that but a few people are blind in their fanboyism to that extent.

Written by Angelic Storm on 26.07.2010 at 06:15

Written by RavenKing on 26.07.2010 at 02:00
I think you missed my point completely. I meant that not all Powermetal bands are mainstream, though some definitely are. I was bringing nuance.

As for Metallica and Iron Maiden, I'm aware lots of people won't agree but, as far as I'm concerned, both suck for over 20 years and carry on only because of their name. They could wrap a turd in a plastic bag and some people would buy it, as long as the band logo is printed on the bag. That's how sad it is when it comes to big names. Too many one-cell brain sheeps who foolishly follow the herd without taking a few seconds to ask themselves "Is it good or not?".
I'm not saying all those who like recent Maiden are like that but a few people are blind in their fanboyism to that extent.

No, I didnt miss the point. The point being mainstream = bad, underground = good.

What I think is ironic, is many ''tr00'' metalheads are just as much sheep as the people they are criticising. They're so wrapped up in trying to remain undergound and "tr00", that it becomes impossible for them to be in any way objective when it comes to liking or disliking certain bands. It becomes less about the actual music, and trying to maintain a pathetic image of somehow being "true" to metal. I dont place any of that ridiculous criteria when I listen to music. I dont care about image, nor do I care how mainstream or not that a band is. For me, its simply about whether I like the music or not.

As for Metallica and Maiden, yep there are blind fanboys who cant or wont critcise anything they do purely because of who they are. While this mindset certainly is stupid, its definitely not any more stupid than the mindset that I described in my first paragraph. I like a lot of what Maiden and Metallica have done in the last 20 years (although I also don't like a fair bit of it either), but that is purely because I enjoy some of the music that was made during that time. Subjective opinion on music, whether it be biased for or against the mainstream, is pathetic. Ive always been completely objective about the music I like and listen to, and apply no other criteria on whether I like certain albums/songs, other than "do I like the music or not?" As soon as someone brings up how ''mainstream'' a band is in regards to a negative opinion about said band's music, I will automatically dismiss the credibility of that person's opinion. As the person is obviously allowing other, completely non-musical factors to cloud their judegement.

Written by Angelic Storm on 26.07.2010 at 06:15


What I think is ironic, is many ''tr00'' metalheads are just as much sheep as the people they are criticising. They're so wrapped up in trying to remain undergound and "tr00", that it becomes impossible for them to be in any way objective when it comes to liking or disliking certain bands. It becomes less about the actual music, and trying to maintain a pathetic image of somehow being "true" to metal. I dont place any of that ridiculous criteria when I listen to music. I dont care about image, nor do I care how mainstream or not that a band is. For me, its simply about whether I like the music or not.

As for Metallica and Maiden, yep there are blind fanboys who cant or wont critcise anything they do purely because of who they are. While this mindset certainly is stupid, its definitely not any more stupid than the mindset that I described in my first paragraph. I like a lot of what Maiden and Metallica have done in the last 20 years (although I also don't like a fair bit of it either), but that is purely because I enjoy some of the music that was made during that time. Subjective opinion on music, whether it be biased for or against the mainstream, is pathetic. Ive always been completely objective about the music I like and listen to, and apply no other criteria on whether I like certain albums/songs, other than "do I like the music or not?" As soon as someone brings up how ''mainstream'' a band is in regards to a negative opinion about said band's music, I will automatically dismiss the credibility of that person's opinion. As the person is obviously allowing other, completely non-musical factors to cloud their judegement.