Written by Weaponz248 on 06.07.2010 at 10:42

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Written by Sulac on 02.07.2010 at 23:58

while Megadeth's always been good...

uh, "Risk" is currently sitting in our "Bottom 20 of All Time"... i wouldn't consider making one of the most abysmal metal albums of all-time "always good."

in fact, most of their post-"RIP" material as pretty much been about as bad as Metallica's, only their attempt to sell-out and cash-in wasn't quite as successful.

I beg to differ with you sir. Yes Risk was bad but Megadeth's last 3 albums have been outstanding. Especially the last one End Game, It is classic Megadeth. Every since Dave came back from his wrist injury Megadeth has been pumping out soild kick-ass music!! As for Metallica not so much, They are still struggling to find the form they had before the black album. My vote goes to Dave and Megadeth, IMO the better band by a long shot.

The System Has Failed wasn't that good, really. But I liked UA and Endgame.

Written by vezzy on 06.07.2010 at 11:48

Written by Weaponz248 on 06.07.2010 at 10:42

Written by BitterCOld on 06.07.2010 at 08:38

Written by Sulac on 02.07.2010 at 23:58

while Megadeth's always been good...

uh, "Risk" is currently sitting in our "Bottom 20 of All Time"... i wouldn't consider making one of the most abysmal metal albums of all-time "always good."

in fact, most of their post-"RIP" material as pretty much been about as bad as Metallica's, only their attempt to sell-out and cash-in wasn't quite as successful.

I beg to differ with you sir. Yes Risk was bad but Megadeth's last 3 albums have been outstanding. Especially the last one End Game, It is classic Megadeth. Every since Dave came back from his wrist injury Megadeth has been pumping out soild kick-ass music!! As for Metallica not so much, They are still struggling to find the form they had before the black album. My vote goes to Dave and Megadeth, IMO the better band by a long shot.

The System Has Failed wasn't that good, really. But I liked UA and Endgame.

Interesting. I find The System Has Failed vastly superior to the utterly pedestrian and boring United Ambomination and to the wankery of Endgame. TSHF focusses on some proper songwriting which is totally lacking from UA and Endgame imo. Endgame is on a par with Death Magnetic. So... overrated and overpraised by many.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.07.2010 at 12:08

Written by vezzy on 06.07.2010 at 11:48

Written by Weaponz248 on 06.07.2010 at 10:42

Written by BitterCOld on 06.07.2010 at 08:38

Written by Sulac on 02.07.2010 at 23:58

while Megadeth's always been good...

uh, "Risk" is currently sitting in our "Bottom 20 of All Time"... i wouldn't consider making one of the most abysmal metal albums of all-time "always good."

in fact, most of their post-"RIP" material as pretty much been about as bad as Metallica's, only their attempt to sell-out and cash-in wasn't quite as successful.

I beg to differ with you sir. Yes Risk was bad but Megadeth's last 3 albums have been outstanding. Especially the last one End Game, It is classic Megadeth. Every since Dave came back from his wrist injury Megadeth has been pumping out soild kick-ass music!! As for Metallica not so much, They are still struggling to find the form they had before the black album. My vote goes to Dave and Megadeth, IMO the better band by a long shot.

The System Has Failed wasn't that good, really. But I liked UA and Endgame.

Interesting. I find The System Has Failed vastly superior to the utterly pedestrian and boring United Ambomination and to the wankery of Endgame. TSHF focusses on some proper songwriting which is totally lacking from UA and Endgame imo. Endgame is on a par with Death Magnetic. So... overrated and overpraised by many.

That's what happens when you listen to too much Amerikhastan. Gears of War sucked though, so underdeveloped. Endgame... well, it is overrated but it's better than Death Magnetic, IMO.

Still, "Blackmail the Universe" is a pretty good track.

Im another one who very much prefers The System Has Failed over Endgame. Aside from the cringeworthy lyrics to 'Something Im Not' (which musically is very good!) and the boring final track 'My Kingdom', System... is a great album. And definitely my fave post-RIP Megs album. The material is overall, very strong, and doesnt feel forced, like much of the material on the last two albums. Especially Endgame.

United Abominations definitely has its moments. ('Sleepwalker', 'Washington Is Next!') But I find it weaker than System... definitely. As for 'Gears Of War', that's actually one of my fave songs from UA. lol UA to me sounds very disjointed, and contains the awful 'Set Me Free', which should never have been on the actual album in the first place. Especially when a great original track ('Black Swan') was left off to make room for it.

IMO Death Magnetic is a little better than Endgame.

Written by Weaponz248 on 06.07.2010 at 10:42


I beg to differ with you sir. Yes Risk was bad but Megadeth's last 3 albums have been outstanding. Especially the last one End Game, It is classic Megadeth. Every since Dave came back from his wrist injury Megadeth has been pumping out soild kick-ass music!! As for Metallica not so much, They are still struggling to find the form they had before the black album. My vote goes to Dave and Megadeth, IMO the better band by a long shot.

Endgame to me was an attempt to recapture classic Megadeth, but it just lacked the balls of their 80's work. those seemed to have real aggression, whereas Endgame was more of an attempt to sound aggressive. i still don't like any album either band have put out in the last 15-20 years to go out and plunk down $15 on one.

I have the feeling that if I say I liked Endgame better than RIP, I'd be shot, so I'm not going to say it.

In the end i think we can agree that Megadeth has gotten closer to what they use to be. Metallica hasnt come close to their first four albums at all.

Written by Weaponz248 on 07.07.2010 at 02:11

In the end i think we can agree that Megadeth has gotten closer to what they use to be. Metallica hasnt come close to their first four albums at all.

they are both just as far removed from what they once were. Death Magnetic is no goldie but is as close to golden era Metallica as Endgame is to golden era Megadeth. So miles and miles and miles and miles removed.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.07.2010 at 02:31

Written by Weaponz248 on 07.07.2010 at 02:11

In the end i think we can agree that Megadeth has gotten closer to what they use to be. Metallica hasnt come close to their first four albums at all.

they are both just as far removed from what they once were. Death Magnetic is no goldie but is as close to golden era Metallica as Endgame is to golden era Megadeth. So miles and miles and miles and miles removed.

Disagree with the comparison ... but agree with the main idea.
both Megadeth and metallica are miles awy from what they were once BUT death mgnetic is a mediocre metal album compared to current-day albums not compared to metallica's old stuff as is it surely incomparable .. while, endgame is incomparable to megadeth's golden era stuff YET is IS still a good metal album, disregard the fact that it is by megadeth, if it were by any other band with no history you'd say its a good effort and praise the album.

If you have to forget the record was by a specific band to appreciate the record, doesn't say much for the record.

i used almost that exact same phrase to describe the new Indiana Jones movie. "It's not that bad if you forget it's an Indiana Jones movie..."

and if Megadave's "Killing" through "Rust" period were the first 3 Indy movies, then "Endgame" was "Crystal Skull". and Megadave long ago "Nuked the Fridge", in the parlance of our times.

Written by Zombie on 07.07.2010 at 02:37

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.07.2010 at 02:31

Written by Weaponz248 on 07.07.2010 at 02:11

In the end i think we can agree that Megadeth has gotten closer to what they use to be. Metallica hasnt come close to their first four albums at all.

they are both just as far removed from what they once were. Death Magnetic is no goldie but is as close to golden era Metallica as Endgame is to golden era Megadeth. So miles and miles and miles and miles removed.

Disagree with the comparison ... but agree with the main idea.
both Megadeth and metallica are miles awy from what they were once BUT death mgnetic is a mediocre metal album compared to current-day albums not compared to metallica's old stuff as is it surely incomparable .. while, endgame is incomparable to megadeth's golden era stuff YET is IS still a good metal album, disregard the fact that it is by megadeth, if it were by any other band with no history you'd say its a good effort and praise the album.

O disagree totally with your train of thoughts on Endgame. If it were by any other band than Megadeth it would have been ignored. Btw, same applies to Metallica's Death Magnetic. Both are very meodiocre albums when judging by any standards.
Btw, I grew up with Metallica already duing their demo days and with Megadeth with Killing Is My Business... nowadays it seems to be the trend one can't like both and be fan of both whilst back in the days one could easilty be fan of v\both bands (like me and loads of others)

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.07.2010 at 02:44

Written by Zombie on 07.07.2010 at 02:37

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.07.2010 at 02:31

Written by Weaponz248 on 07.07.2010 at 02:11

In the end i think we can agree that Megadeth has gotten closer to what they use to be. Metallica hasnt come close to their first four albums at all.

they are both just as far removed from what they once were. Death Magnetic is no goldie but is as close to golden era Metallica as Endgame is to golden era Megadeth. So miles and miles and miles and miles removed.

Disagree with the comparison ... but agree with the main idea.
both Megadeth and metallica are miles awy from what they were once BUT death mgnetic is a mediocre metal album compared to current-day albums not compared to metallica's old stuff as is it surely incomparable .. while, endgame is incomparable to megadeth's golden era stuff YET is IS still a good metal album, disregard the fact that it is by megadeth, if it were by any other band with no history you'd say its a good effort and praise the album.

O disagree totally with your train of thoughts on Endgame. If it were by any other band than Megadeth it would have been ignored. Btw, same applies to Metallica's Death Magnetic. Both are very meodiocre albums when judging by any standards.
Btw, I grew up with Metallica already duing their demo days and with Megadeth with Killing Is My Business... nowadays it seems to be the trend one can't like both and be fan of both whilst back in the days one could easilty be fan of v\both bands (like me and loads of others)

i dont hate metallica btw, i DO prefer megadeth .. personal preference. and i -too- grew up listening to megadeth and metallica's early stuff (well, not early stuff.. more like their last good stuff, rust in peace and the black album) so, i'm a fan of both no problems. but i think endgame is pretty melodic, shows good musicmanship, and has its memorable moments. while death magnetic didnt move anything inside of me. it is how i feel about the album rather than a 'professional analysis'

Written by Zombie on 07.07.2010 at 02:50

nd i -too- grew up listening to megadeth and metallica's early stuff (well, not early stuff.. more like their last good stuff, rust in peace and the black album)

Sorry to burst your bubble but you did not grow with those albums. Judging by the age in your profile you were 4 or 5 at the time of Metallica - Metallica and Rust In Peace)
You don't know about the impact the said albums had at the time. Metalluica actually being Metallica's SECOND bad album bu t being their first total seel out one and RIP being a great abum but having Countdown following it up as their Metallica album so a total sell-out wanting to reach the masses

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.07.2010 at 02:59

Written by Zombie on 07.07.2010 at 02:50

nd i -too- grew up listening to megadeth and metallica's early stuff (well, not early stuff.. more like their last good stuff, rust in peace and the black album)

Sorry to burst your bubble but you did not grow with those albums. Judging by the age in your profile you were 4 or 5 at the time of Metallica - Metallica and Rust In Peace)
You don't know about the impact the said albums had at the time. Metalluica actually being Metallica's SECOND bad album bu t being their first total seel out one and RIP being a great abum but having Countdown following it up as their Metallica album so a total sell-out wanting to reach the masses

no i did in 1993-1994 i was 8 to 9 years old.

Definitely for METALLICA!

Megadeth is F***k awesome old school Thrash Metal Band

METALLICA

Megadeth for the simple fact that they have maintained their quality with a certain degree whereas metallica totally dropped the ball in the 90s and thus far have failed to pick it back up. Megadeth also always sounded way more pissed off than metallica.

Both are long gone in my head -_- I love what they DID but right now they do not interest me in any way... uninspired and repetitive
that is what they became...

Written by BitterCOld on 06.07.2010 at 17:50

i still don't like any album either band have put out in the last 15-20 years to go out and plunk down $15 on one.

Same here. Both bands barely have anything in common with what they once were eons ago.
If there's one thing I will never understand, it's why so many people still care so much for finished bands who only stretch their career much longer than necessary.
Metalheads have both feet stuck so deeply in the past at times. I know there is some kind of nostalgia at play sometimes but, imo, it can really become pathetic.

In this genre of THRASH, we are comparing two great bands?the difference is one ISN'T.

Dave Mustaine arguably invented THRASH/SPEED metal, a fast tempo beat with wailing complex solo's, high bass drumming with elements of shouting vocals that fit the material you play weather if it's enjoyable or not. THRASH.

That alone has been MEGADETH for the better part of this musical scene, it will be forever proven in their latest albums which separates the celebrity from the MUSICIAN. This is why MEGADETH are still considered a THRASH metal band, I sincerely doubt METALLICA even know what they are these days. POP?

FACT, METALLICA have not written a good record since 1986, and that is being rather meticulous. They have strayed from their roots and wanting to be the front act that graced TV appearances which will always come at a costly price. BLACK ALBUM.

Kill Em' All, the record that invented THRASH/SPEED metal by Metallica, or was it?

The majority of those high caliber songs were in fact written by Mustaine, his early input had the better reigning of Metallica's early career which stretched to their 3rd album, where people moaned for those golden days.

If you listen to Megadeth's debut album "Killing is my business?." you will hear the real birth of THASH/SPEED. Dave Mustaine will always be a better guitarist than either Hetfield or Hammett could ever be, his ongoing relentless song writing has been extremely stellar throughout his music career, the riff's, solo's to breakdown's have been PARAMOUNT, and his clever story driven, "close your eyes - your there lyrics" go hand in hand.

Rust in Piece is arguably the G.O.A.T thrash metal record ever, the famous one two punch "Holy Wars, Hanger 18" are MEGADETH!!!....no 'pun' intended. The 3rd track "Take No Prisoner's" is the pinnacle of this game, were "Five Magics" starts off FAST & LOUD?.then slowly but surely picking up another raging solo?.then that breakdown which shatters all levee's while Dave's fitting vocals screeches "I MASTER?..FIVE MAGICS?." Is indeed godly.
Not one Metallica album has topped RUST at all?.not even close. There is no "Sure they have but it doesn't deliver?.." they just haven't. The album Master of Puppets???, not even remotely close, "Battery" is their heaviest track and it ain't heavy.

If anyone think's "Death Magnetic" is the comeback for Metallica, keep dreaming, more like saying "Nice Attempt". Not one thing about that album screams the key root elements which made them a great band. Unforgiven III ?, what's next, Enter Sandman II ?, talk about beating a dead horse?or more importantly ran out of idea's.

Metallica makes the documentary "Some Kind Of Monster", we all bag it, but we still love them?
Metallica makes "Call Of Duty" promotional appearances, we all bag it, but we still love them?
They are forever tagged the crown height of what the word "Sell out" is. "Get Famous or Die Trying" fits the bill with this band it's beyond amusing. The whole world thought they knew what the Metal Scene was when they saw their TV's playing "Enter Sandman, One, Sad But True" when in fact they were already separated from their habitat and into the world for a quick dollar on the big screen.

It don't mean SQUAT if METALLICA are in the "Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame" when RUN-DMC are already in.

Written by Detective Comics on 22.01.2011 at 09:48

In this genre of THRASH, we are comparing two great bands?the difference is one ISN'T.

Dave Mustaine arguably invented THRASH/SPEED metal, a fast tempo beat with wailing complex solo's, high bass drumming with elements of shouting vocals that fit the material you play weather if it's enjoyable or not. THRASH.

That alone has been MEGADETH for the better part of this musical scene, it will be forever proven in their latest albums which separates the celebrity from the MUSICIAN. This is why MEGADETH are still considered a THRASH metal band, I sincerely doubt METALLICA even know what they are these days. POP?

FACT, METALLICA have not written a good record since 1986, and that is being rather meticulous. They have strayed from their roots and wanting to be the front act that graced TV appearances which will always come at a costly price. BLACK ALBUM.

Kill Em' All, the record that invented THRASH/SPEED metal by Metallica, or was it?

The majority of those high caliber songs were in fact written by Mustaine, his early input had the better reigning of Metallica's early career which stretched to their 3rd album, where people moaned for those golden days.

If you listen to Megadeth's debut album "Killing is my business?." you will hear the real birth of THASH/SPEED. Dave Mustaine will always be a better guitarist than either Hetfield or Hammett could ever be, his ongoing relentless song writing has been extremely stellar throughout his music career, the riff's, solo's to breakdown's have been PARAMOUNT, and his clever story driven, "close your eyes - your there lyrics" go hand in hand.

Rust in Piece is arguably the G.O.A.T thrash metal record ever, the famous one two punch "Holy Wars, Hanger 18" are MEGADETH!!!....no 'pun' intended. The 3rd track "Take No Prisoner's" is the pinnacle of this game, were "Five Magics" starts off FAST & LOUD?.then slowly but surely picking up another raging solo?.then that breakdown which shatters all levee's while Dave's fitting vocals screeches "I MASTER?..FIVE MAGICS?." Is indeed godly.
Not one Metallica album has topped RUST at all?.not even close. There is no "Sure they have but it doesn't deliver?.." they just haven't. The album Master of Puppets???, not even remotely close, "Battery" is their heaviest track and it ain't heavy.

If anyone think's "Death Magnetic" is the comeback for Metallica, keep dreaming, more like saying "Nice Attempt". Not one thing about that album screams the key root elements which made them a great band. Unforgiven III ?, what's next, Enter Sandman II ?, talk about beating a dead horse?or more importantly ran out of idea's.

Metallica makes the documentary "Some Kind Of Monster", we all bag it, but we still love them?
Metallica makes "Call Of Duty" promotional appearances, we all bag it, but we still love them?
They are forever tagged the crown height of what the word "Sell out" is. "Get Famous or Die Trying" fits the bill with this band it's beyond amusing. The whole world thought they knew what the Metal Scene was when they saw their TV's playing "Enter Sandman, One, Sad But True" when in fact they were already separated from their habitat and into the world for a quick dollar on the big screen.

It don't mean SQUAT if METALLICA are in the "Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame" when RUN-DMC are already in.

uh... FACT ... dave has co-writer credits for four tracks in Kill "em All. not sure that's the majority. perhaps you can do the math on that.

just because you prefer megadave does not make your viewpoints fact. sorry to disappoint and dismiss you so summarily.

i also find it funny you mention metallica's emptyvee success without mentioning the fact megadeth also pursued such success just as hard. or perhaps you are too young to remember "sweating bullets" and a few other tracks off the boring follow up to RIP getting regular airplay.

you also fail to mention RISK.

the "FACT" is that Megadave tried his bestest to sell out just as hard as Metallica did. and failed. and after several sell-out attempt failures, realized it wasn't going to happen and tried to court his more solid metal fanbase again.

@BitterCold: Thank you for dissecting that stupid post and showing it up for the nonsense it is. At least now I dont have to waste my time doing so.

Not be critical or anything but Metallica brought 4 super fantastic thrash albums (MoP, RTL,AJFA, KEA) out into the world, whereas Megadeth did 2 (RIP,PS) and perhaps 3 (CTE), and although all super fantastic albums, Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning are considered one of the best metal albums ever, often reaching no. 1 in countless lists, whereas RIP and PS are mentioned in place at around 10-20. I ignore all crap albums and focus on what GOOD they brought into the world. This is why i chose Metallica.

As if it mattered - at all - where albums are placed on popularity lists. The albums that most stand out from these bands to me are Ride The Lightning and Rust In Peace and between those two I prefer RIP, because of Friedman's solos and also because Dave's voice on RIP is much easier to tolerate than James' on RTL.

This one is always really hard for me as I love them both so dearly and they have had such an influence on my guitar playing. For their early careers I think Metallica's first four beat Megadeth's first four overall, but I think Rust in Peace is the best album of the eight mentioned. After that I like Megadeth's discography better than Metallica's. Dave is the superior guitar player while James is the superior singer/lyric writer. In the end I pick Megadeth on consistency issues. While not consistent themselves, they were more so than Metallica.

Megadeth for consistency and having better musicians

Written by blacktooth85 on 02.04.2011 at 06:01

Megadeth for consistency and having better musicians

Touche. Megadeth all the way.

Written by [user id=111774] on 02.04.2011 at 21:53

Written by blacktooth85 on 02.04.2011 at 06:01

Megadeth for consistency and having better musicians

Touche. Megadeth all the way.

Agreed, Metallica doesn't have anyone who can touch Chris Broderick, and for Void who loves the shredder for Toxik, Chris is one of my favs his Chaos theory, etc is quite an accomplishment!

Written by Yasmine on 02.04.2011 at 22:07

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Written by blacktooth85 on 02.04.2011 at 06:01

Megadeth for consistency and having better musicians

Touche. Megadeth all the way.

Agreed, Metallica doesn't have anyone who can touch Chris Broderick, and for Void who loves the shredder for Toxik, Chris is one of my favs his Chaos theory, etc is quite an accomplishment!

Chris is also amazing live. He'll be standing their ripping out those Hangar 18 solo's, not looking at the fret board, and give "Sup's" to the audience, with this grin that looks like he's saying, "Yeah, I'm awesome.".