Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 01:59

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 01:28

Written by RavenKing on 19.02.2011 at 23:33

I share this thought that metal is dying. Imo, it took the downward spiral around the millenia and it only got worse and worse. I have very negative feelings towards the current scene.
There's a lot of bands at the moment but most of them are only pale versions of better things that were done before. Also, I think it will be harder and harder to make enough money to be viable as a metal band. I think after the departure of the old bands, metal will die in the mainstrean spheres and will survive only in a more underground form. I think the scene will become much smaller and made almost exclusively of extreme metal bands.
If you want to have my opinion, I think traditional Heavy Metal will pretty much disappear entirely and Powermetal will die (in a sense, it is already dead, but this is another story).

However, I don't know about nu-metal and other modern crap replacing metal. I don't follow such genres at all, so it is hard for me to know about it.

You too have the same thoughts about metal?
I am glad to see that I am not the only one...
But in other hand it also make me sad ....

It would make me sad if ìt wasn't for the fact that I'm almost exclusively into Black Metal nowadays and it is the genre less likely to be affected in a bad way, if events are to turn as we expect. It won't make a big difference for BM if the scene becomes smaller and more underground, as the genre is already underground to a certain extent and has never been a good money-maker (so bands won't quit for monetary reasons, most likely). It could even benefit from this situation.

I consider this less threatening than the over-commercialisation we sometimes saw in the last decade.

It is sad for those who are still deeply into traditional Heavy Metal, which is not my case. I still like to listen to a few old Heavy Metal songs from time to time but I stopped caring for new albums from old bands long ago because, imo, old bands release nothing but crap compared to their early material. I lost all interest in traditional Heavy Metal years ago. In the mid-90s, to tell the truth. Most bands were kinda dead at that time or so shitty it was pathetic, so I 'sailed to new horizons'. And I never jumped in the wagon when many bands made some kind of comeback. The page was already turned for me.

But, if I was still into traditional Heavy Metal, I would be very sad, since all the bands are old and will probably retire soon, and there is almost no new band to take the place.
As for Powermetal, sorry but I find the genre so shitty and such a joke since the millenia that I think it deserves to disappear. And, on this, I have no sympathy for Powermetal fans. They get what they deserve for encouraging bands to take a radio-friendly hard rock-ish direction. The good old melodic Speed Metal is already dead because of it.

No man I think you misunderstood me,I'm more in black and death metal ,not in traditional heavy/power metal
I've just had the same idea like one that you mentioned before,that is why asked you....
Anyway I agree with you, traditional heavy metal is dead for a long time ago just it is not yet aware of that...

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 02:38

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 01:59

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 01:28

Written by RavenKing on 19.02.2011 at 23:33

I share this thought that metal is dying. Imo, it took the downward spiral around the millenia and it only got worse and worse. I have very negative feelings towards the current scene.
There's a lot of bands at the moment but most of them are only pale versions of better things that were done before. Also, I think it will be harder and harder to make enough money to be viable as a metal band. I think after the departure of the old bands, metal will die in the mainstrean spheres and will survive only in a more underground form. I think the scene will become much smaller and made almost exclusively of extreme metal bands.
If you want to have my opinion, I think traditional Heavy Metal will pretty much disappear entirely and Powermetal will die (in a sense, it is already dead, but this is another story).

However, I don't know about nu-metal and other modern crap replacing metal. I don't follow such genres at all, so it is hard for me to know about it.

You too have the same thoughts about metal?
I am glad to see that I am not the only one...
But in other hand it also make me sad ....

It would make me sad if ìt wasn't for the fact that I'm almost exclusively into Black Metal nowadays and it is the genre less likely to be affected in a bad way, if events are to turn as we expect. It won't make a big difference for BM if the scene becomes smaller and more underground, as the genre is already underground to a certain extent and has never been a good money-maker (so bands won't quit for monetary reasons, most likely). It could even benefit from this situation.

I consider this less threatening than the over-commercialisation we sometimes saw in the last decade.

It is sad for those who are still deeply into traditional Heavy Metal, which is not my case. I still like to listen to a few old Heavy Metal songs from time to time but I stopped caring for new albums from old bands long ago because, imo, old bands release nothing but crap compared to their early material. I lost all interest in traditional Heavy Metal years ago. In the mid-90s, to tell the truth. Most bands were kinda dead at that time or so shitty it was pathetic, so I 'sailed to new horizons'. And I never jumped in the wagon when many bands made some kind of comeback. The page was already turned for me.

But, if I was still into traditional Heavy Metal, I would be very sad, since all the bands are old and will probably retire soon, and there is almost no new band to take the place.
As for Powermetal, sorry but I find the genre so shitty and such a joke since the millenia that I think it deserves to disappear. And, on this, I have no sympathy for Powermetal fans. They get what they deserve for encouraging bands to take a radio-friendly hard rock-ish direction. The good old melodic Speed Metal is already dead because of it.

No man I think you misunderstood me,I'm more in black and death metal ,not in traditional heavy/power metal
I've just had the same idea like one that you mentioned before,that is why asked you....
Anyway I agree with you, traditional heavy metal is dead for a long time ago just it is not yet aware of that...

I didn't mean you in particular. I was talking in a more general way.
Yeah, I agree on traditional Heavy Metal being dead since a long time, but some people don't realize it or don't want to accept it. They should realize that it's not because a few bands stretched their career for the last 20 years with minimal input that it means the genre is alive and well.
I mean, come on, bands like Judas Priest have been on the artificial respirator for the last 2 decades. Same for Black Sabbath. All we hear about this band is reunions and parting ways again.

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 02:46

Yeah, I agree on traditional Heavy Metal being dead since a long time, but some people don't realize it or don't want to accept it. They should realize that it's not because a few bands stretched their career for the last 20 years with minimal input that it means the genre is alive and well.
I mean, come on, bands like Judas Priest have been on the artificial respirator for the last 2 decades. Same for Black Sabbath. All we hear about this band is reunions and parting ways again.

yes I know ...
and here in Serbia where traditional heavy metal dominate people just dont realize that thing...
They are all like "Wow heavy metal forever ! New bands?Fuck them,they all shit! Best things are from the '80s \m/"
I think you know what I mean ....
And as for other sub-genres there is not just enough space to push,and to make they way out of abyss....
Its like Amon Din and such which are really good,but they are just sealed off by bunch of wannabe heavy metal bands(Alogia and likes)...
And if it is such situation here I can just imagine how it is on global scale....

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:02

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 02:46

Yeah, I agree on traditional Heavy Metal being dead since a long time, but some people don't realize it or don't want to accept it. They should realize that it's not because a few bands stretched their career for the last 20 years with minimal input that it means the genre is alive and well.
I mean, come on, bands like Judas Priest have been on the artificial respirator for the last 2 decades. Same for Black Sabbath. All we hear about this band is reunions and parting ways again.

yes I know ...
and here in Serbia where traditional heavy metal dominate people just dont realize that thing...
They are all like "Wow heavy metal forever ! New bands?Fuck them,they all shit! Best things are from the '80s \m/"
I think you know what I mean ....

Oh yes, I know what you mean. I think one of the most annoying thing about metalheads is how so many of them are stuck in the 80s.

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 03:37

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:02

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 02:46

Yeah, I agree on traditional Heavy Metal being dead since a long time, but some people don't realize it or don't want to accept it. They should realize that it's not because a few bands stretched their career for the last 20 years with minimal input that it means the genre is alive and well.
I mean, come on, bands like Judas Priest have been on the artificial respirator for the last 2 decades. Same for Black Sabbath. All we hear about this band is reunions and parting ways again.

yes I know ...
and here in Serbia where traditional heavy metal dominate people just dont realize that thing...
They are all like "Wow heavy metal forever ! New bands?Fuck them,they all shit! Best things are from the '80s \m/"
I think you know what I mean ....

Oh yes, I know what you mean. I think one of the most annoying thing about metalheads is how so many of them are stuck in the 80s.

And not just them...Record labels,metal clubs,'zines....
I mean its hard enough to find a good non traditional heavy metal gig to attend and even harder to find a place to play when you have the band...
also '80s were good but its time to move a little further ...

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:44

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 03:37

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:02

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 02:46

Yeah, I agree on traditional Heavy Metal being dead since a long time, but some people don't realize it or don't want to accept it. They should realize that it's not because a few bands stretched their career for the last 20 years with minimal input that it means the genre is alive and well.
I mean, come on, bands like Judas Priest have been on the artificial respirator for the last 2 decades. Same for Black Sabbath. All we hear about this band is reunions and parting ways again.

yes I know ...
and here in Serbia where traditional heavy metal dominate people just dont realize that thing...
They are all like "Wow heavy metal forever ! New bands?Fuck them,they all shit! Best things are from the '80s \m/"
I think you know what I mean ....

Oh yes, I know what you mean. I think one of the most annoying thing about metalheads is how so many of them are stuck in the 80s.

And not just them...Record labels,metal clubs,'zines....
I mean its hard enough to find a good non traditional heavy metal gig to attend and even harder to find a place to play when you have the band...
also '80s were good but its time to move a little further ...

God, I agree wholeheartedly. The second worst flaw of metalheads I should have mentioned in my post is how so many of them have missed the last 2 decades entirely.
They will realize soon enough. The moment it will backfire at them is getting closer much faster than they believe.

P.S. I'm not saying this in a wicked way. I just pity them.

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 03:52

I just pity them.

me too...

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:55

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 03:52

I just pity them.

me too...

One important nuance, here. I don't pity them for their tastes. They can like whatever they want. I pity them for being stuck in the past and unable to follow the flow of time. For being unable to get out of this denial phase.

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 04:02

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 20.02.2011 at 03:55

Written by RavenKing on 20.02.2011 at 03:52

I just pity them.

me too...

One important nuance, here. I don't pity them for their tastes. They can like whatever they want. I pity them for being stuck in the past and unable to follow the flow of time. For being unable to get out of this denial phase.

I know,its same for my pity on them. I dont think they have bad taste just that they are stuck in time...

Phase One: started with Maiden, Metallica and Metalcore bands in middle school (about 6 years ago). Phase 2: Bodom was a natural next step. Phase 3: lots of folk metal around 2006. Phase 4: Around '07 '08 I started listening to more extreme music, made some older metalhead buddies, went on a Behemoth and Corpse binge, hated on the emos. Phase 5: Black metal introduced. Phase 6: Destroy.

Curiously enough, the only real constant on my ever-changing favorite bands list has been the rock band Clutch, which has been a favorite of mine since my early high school days.

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For me it's hard to say, I was introduced to metal in my young age along some rock bands about I guess almost 20 years ago, but it wasn't till about 12 years ago thgat I started to discover metal on my own (thank you Internet!) and started to dig out new bands.

I got into metal about ten years ago when I was sixteen. Growing up a had a heavy hip hop influence from my brother. But also a lot of classical, jazz and blues from my old man. As I started getting older I got sick of the newer hip hop/rap/r&b formula. Everybody had the same thing to say and all revolved around the theory of "I'm the greatest thing in the world, ever." So the egos drove me out of it.

Then I spent a Summer hanging out with some guys that absolutely HATED rap. So I got my first real taste of Rock/Metal through the likes of Nirvana, AC/DC, Metallica and Led Zeppelin. That experience combined with my interest in classical, jazz and blues really set me on a path or an awakening if you will. I, being a white kid in suburbia, felt a much stronger bond with metal than I ever did listening to a bunch of black guys talking about the ghetto.

So I started off with a bunch of typical stuff for someone that age at that time. A lot of it being stuff I wouldn't be caught dead listening to today. I mean, there was a lot of the classic good stuff like Metallica, Sabbath, Type O Negative, In Flames. But Nu-Metal was in its prime and I got suckered into it like a lot of people.

The good news is that over time I developed my tastes and these days find myself going more for Doom, Sludge or my constant favorite, thrash. I look at my coming of metal story and look at the teens of today listening to Eminem or 50 Cent or whatever the devil it is these children are into. And I think, there's a good chance that in ten years, they just MIGHT have matured into intelligent human beings. And then I think, probably not, thank fuck I'm moving to Europe.

About a decade and a half, since 1993~94.

For about 8 years now since i was about 12, started with kreator, children of bodom and dimmu borgir...was listening to metallica, rammstein, system of a down (and a few others) before that...but when i think about it, those bands are metal too so...practically i've been listening to metal ever since i saw the light of this world...lol

Since i was 14 or 15, i was into those Silpknot and Cradle of Filth but got tired of them then in 2006-07 i started slowly getting back into metal through Hammerfal, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius and etc. and since then i've been trying to get into all genres of metal, expanding my taste and intrest in bands and music.

I started listening around the age of eleven or twelve. Metallica's Unforgiven was the song that introduced me to metal. So, at least 16 years for me.

17 years and counting. Started when I was 15 yo and I haven't look back.

So it seems that Extreme metal is an aquired taste! YESSSSSSSSSS!

Eh, since I was twelve. But I didn't realize it.

It started with Within Temptation, not the metal-ist of metal but it still counts. It was the song 'Angels'. What really amazed me was the fact there was a WOMAN singing in such a heavy sounding band. It was an amazing moment. I craved music like it. So began my search for power female vocals.

It was when I was seventeen when I realized what I was searching for: METAL.

With lead female vocals specifically.

Feel free to make band suggestions!

I've been listening to metal since I was 12.
I was introduced to metal by a friend of mine who listened to Iron Maiden and Metallica.
I gradually discovered heavier music like Sepultura and Type O Negative.
Around 1996 I started listening to Black Metal (Blasfemia Eternal by Ancient Rites was my first BM album).
And the rest is history...

I've been hearin to metal out my speakers for over 5years now, hopefully i'll get to listen to it after 2012, cuz that would be balls to have listened to crap music as a kid longer than the music that i've come to actually enjoy lmao

I've been hearing metal music since 2006.
Iron Maiden is the first metal band that I was listened to.

Since I was 14, 15 I guess. I didn't have a well defined music taste until I started listening to Evanescence. Then I slowly progressed into power metal, nu metal, and went further from there. I'm still constantly evolving and changing my favorites, but for the few years now already, I still have love for Korn and Disturbed as my primary bands of interest.

Written by RavenKing on 19.02.2011 at 23:33

I share this thought that metal is dying. Imo, it took the downward spiral around the millenia and it only got worse and worse. I have very negative feelings towards the current scene.
There's a lot of bands at the moment but most of them are only pale versions of better things that were done before. Also, I think it will be harder and harder to make enough money to be viable as a metal band. I think after the departure of the old bands, metal will die in the mainstrean spheres and will survive only in a more underground form. I think the scene will become much smaller and made almost exclusively of extreme metal bands.
If you want to have my opinion, I think traditional Heavy Metal will pretty much disappear entirely and Powermetal will die (in a sense, it is already dead, but this is another story).

However, I don't know about nu-metal and other modern crap replacing metal. I don't follow such genres at all, so it is hard for me to know about it.

Now since I've read the entire thread, I figured I'll put my two cents into the whole 'metal dying' stuff; metal will hardly ever day (just like any other shape and form of music). You're saying that classic heavy metal acts will die out? In a way, they did ages ago. Just like we can say that 'classic rock' died in the 70s, but people still listen to Beatles and Hendrix. I get your point, but I don't agree with it. And I also don't agree with the fact that metal is getting worse. I'm actually fairly certain that 10, 20 years from now, people will reminisce with nostalgia how good the '00s' were. It's always like that. We bitch about the current times all the time. Since you're a lot older than me, I'm sure you've seen such tendency before. I imagine oldschool trashers and heavy metalheads didn't enjoy the surge of black metal in the early 90s, calling it modern crap just like we love to call deathcore and nu-metal the same way.

So to summarize, there's still quality music being done even today. One just needs to be interested in finding it (in fact, most of my favorite music comes from this century). It will always be the same way. And if Mozart didn't die out, neither will metal in 20 years.

About ten years:devil:

Been listening to metal since 1980... and still going strong! Yes, metal music has changed over the years, but I guess that's what's makes it interesting: the diversity of it...

Seven years

I was going through a lot of bouts of insomnia, and as if almost magically, Bodom came on a Canadian hard rock music channel late at night (what are the possibilities). I couldn't believe the music I was hearing -- I could've sworn this was music of the Gods!! This was when I was around 11 or 12.

I tried looking for music similar to Bodom (or any Bodom songs online. There were only 3 I could get my hands on), but I didn't know what to search for exactly ... I started getting more exposure to the genre through friends, and this was around when I was 14-16.

Ive been listening to pure metal music more than a decade now.

I've been into metal perhaps for six or seven years now.