Written by RavenKing on 06.02.2011 at 15:58

Written by Fearless on 06.02.2011 at 15:32

Iced Earth, haven't done anything good since "The Horror Show" album

I never liked "Horror Show" much. But I'm afraid Iced Earth is one of those bands who play a genre of music I completely lost interest in.

I like that album but sadly enough, after that album so did I. Another band that should have stop are In Flames, their latest album..... wow! where should I begin?

As a totally new topic a band that was/are really great that totally "disapperad" are Construcdead. I saw them in 05 when they toured with Soilwork. Beside their latest record (two years ago), I haven't heard anything from them, sadly enough.

I'd disband Darkthrone, even though I like their new punky style, but after that last piece of shit of an album, this "Circle the wagons", they should just give it up. The cult is alive and Dark Thrones and Black Flags where quite amusing, but they are starting to stagnate with their music and nothing is more boring then thousands of albums who sound just alike.

I'm tempted to say Iced Earth, but to be honest, I didn't mind their most recent two albums, although their previous works are MUCH better. I'm ultimately going to hold my judgment until the next album is released.

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Written by Powerslavex on 06.02.2011 at 12:37

Metallica the winner

I don't think so, if you ask me.

i think st anger will justify my decision

And every band have ups and down and their St.Anger was down, what about Death Magnetic? is it bad? i enjoyed it and i don't wanna Metallica disband.

from load up to death magnetic they were terrible IMO dont get me wrong metallica is on of my favorite bands they are legends master of puppets and fade to black and many more are legendary masterpieces once in a life time songs, so i hate the fact that metallica will be remembered for their crap stuff rather than their legendary stuff

Written by RavenKing on 06.02.2011 at 19:52

Written by Coolingsrock on 06.02.2011 at 18:35

Slayer just always sounded the same.

So, for you, "Show No Mercy", "Haunting The Chapel", "Hell Awaits"and "Reign In Blood" sound like "World Painted Blood"? And, of course, they all sound like "South of Heaven".
Ah, yes! I forgot to mention that "South Of Heaven" sounds exactly like "Divine Intervention".

You either need to have your ears checked or simply don't know shit about Slayer.

i like slayer and everything but their style and mood is always the same for me in general and overall but they do have songs and few albums that are different. just like most bands. or yeah my ears are totally shot.

Written by .Nemesis. on 06.02.2011 at 21:22

you cant even hear any of the guitars because the drums are too loud

This problem is rather common since the mid-90s. Why do they have to mix the drums so freaking loud? I don't know but that's a thing I really hate. Drums are a background instrument and should be mixed in a way that 'flows' with the other instruments, that works with them and not be on top of everything as it has been so often the case since that time.
In many instances, drums are so loud they become an annoyance when you try to follow guitar riffs.
It's a reason why I like Black Metal so much (there are many other ones): drums are usually low in the mix, so they don't get in the way of other elements.

When you "hear only the drums", it's never a good thing. Especially if they sound so 'clinic' and synthesized, it gives a plastic feeling to music.

Written by Wintersun616 on 06.02.2011 at 16:26

In some interview Tuomas Holopainen said that the new Nightwish album will suit Anette's singing better. -> Nightwish's next album = pop.

Right, because everyone who isn't a faux-opera singer, must be pop. Are all Tarja fans this fucking simple minded?

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DPP was already pop metal

What's the difference betweeen Amaranth and Nemo????? What's the difference between Ghost Love Score and The Poet and the Pendulum????? What makes one pop metal, but not the other?????

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they could've just as well had Britney Spears.

You do realize that comparing Anette to Britney Spears is the "yo momma" joke of Nightwish, right? God, Tarja fanboys never grow up. I'm surprised you people haven't collapsed under the weight of your collective stupidity already.

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 06.02.2011 at 20:05

And Nightwish(because they ruined it all)....

Of course, they ruined the chance for you to drool over Tarja whilst watching their videos. Boo-hoo. Let me ask you something, did you ever actually care for the music or the lyrics at all(you know, the things that Tarja didn't contribute anyhing to)?

Written by John Barleycorn on 05.02.2011 at 20:15

The Simpsons.

Sorry for the off-topic remark but I just had to say that. If The Simpsons had ended after the tenth season or even earlier they definitely would have been the best TV series ever. Now it carries 12 years of dubious loud on its shoulders.

Haha...dude, I couldn't agree more with that comment!

Now...back on topic.

I used to like bands, now I just like albums. No band is perfect, and they all release a dud every now and then...but that's no reason to want them to disband. Who knows, they may come good again. Metallica, Megadeth, Testament and Fear Factory all did.

I'm sure alot of people don't like them anyway, but All That Remains needs to either change the sound or give up.

Written by .Nemesis. on 06.02.2011 at 21:22

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Written by Necromorph on 07.02.2011 at 05:43

Cryptopsy sucks. If you guys like Cryptopsy, no offense. But I HATE them, they don't even deserve to be called metal.

No they don't suck, i like their new style and i like their old style. they have a genrations of old fans and new fans, you can't deny that.

I remember when I bought Their Once Was Not album, I wasted 7 bucks for a crappy album that was very disappointing, so I took it back to the store only getting about 2$ credit to trade in.

Dude, you cant even hear any of the guitars because the drums are too loud. That is the worst turn-off a metal band can have. (in my opinion)

Written by [user id=105293] on 07.02.2011 at 04:34

Written by Wintersun616 on 06.02.2011 at 16:26

In some interview Tuomas Holopainen said that the new Nightwish album will suit Anette's singing better. -> Nightwish's next album = pop.

Right, because everyone who isn't a faux-opera singer, must be pop. Are all Tarja fans this fucking simple minded?

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DPP was already pop metal

What's the difference betweeen Amaranth and Nemo????? What's the difference between Ghost Love Score and The Poet and the Pendulum????? What makes one pop metal, but not the other?????

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they could've just as well had Britney Spears.

You do realize that comparing Anette to Britney Spears is the "yo momma" joke of Nightwish, right? God, Tarja fanboys never grow up. I'm surprised you people haven't collapsed under the weight of your collective stupidity already.

Where did I say it has to be opera singer? Nope. There are plenty of good styles to sing metal, but they had to go for the pop singer. Like I said above, Helena Haaparanta would've been a perfect pick for Nightwish. She has a very good vocal range and a beautiful voice. Also, she actually likes metal and wouldn't want to turn Nightwish to a pop metal band. Also, I am not a Tarja fanboy, I just don't like poppy princess 'Nettie. Not liking the opposite does not automatically make me a fanboy of the other.

Nemo is a good song and Tarja sounds good singing it. Same for GLS and PatP. Anette's singing makes it pop metal, because she sounds, acts and looks like a pop star.

Yes, I do realize that, but it just happens to be my personal, honest opinion on this matter. And no, I'm still not a Tarja fanboy.

Written by Panzerfaust on 06.02.2011 at 22:59

I'd disband Darkthrone, even though I like their new punky style, but after that last piece of shit of an album, this "Circle the wagons", they should just give it up. The cult is alive and Dark Thrones and Black Flags where quite amusing, but they are starting to stagnate with their music and nothing is more boring then thousands of albums who sound just alike.

I with you, this punky stuff just seems unfitting for the mighty DT.

Written by Fearless on 06.02.2011 at 15:32

Iced Earth, haven't done anything good since "The Horror Show" album

I would disagree with that, as I find "The Glorious Burden" overall very good, and quite an underrated album. "Framing Armageddon" also had a fair few great moments, despite being overall pretty patchy. I really love "Horror Show" though, that's the last album they did where I love every song on it. Their last album was dire, and proof that Ripper Owens was never the problem in latter day Iced Earth, despite a lot of people claiming so.

Written by .Nemesis. on 06.02.2011 at 21:22

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Written by .Nemesis. on 05.02.2011 at 20:43

Cryptopsy sucks. If you guys like Cryptopsy, no offense. But I HATE them, they don't even deserve to be called metal.

No they don't suck, i like their new style and i like their old style. they have a genrations of old fans and new fans, you can't deny that.

Dude, you cant even hear any of the guitars because the drums are too loud. That is the worst turn-off a metal band can have. (in my opinion)

I like those parts, and i think that what makes Cryptopsy so unique, and no one can get into Cryptopsy that easy.

Written by [user id=105293] on 07.02.2011 at 04:38

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 06.02.2011 at 20:05

And Nightwish(because they ruined it all)....

Let me ask you something, did you ever actually care for the music or the lyrics at all(you know, the things that Tarja didn't contribute anyhing to)?

Yes i know all about them(I was like huge fan of Nightwish ,and I still am....),but DPP was something that ruined all that i liked .I dont mean on vocals ,but on whole impression I've got....
BTW I DONT CARE IF SOME BAND FALLS APART AND DISAPPEAR I LIKE THE SONGS THEY MADE NOT THEM.....

Written by Wintersun616 on 06.02.2011 at 17:00

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Written by Powerslavex on 06.02.2011 at 12:37

Metallica the winner

I don't think so, if you ask me.

i think st anger will justify my decision

And every band have ups and down and their St.Anger was down, what about Death Magnetic? is it bad? i enjoyed it and i don't wanna Metallica disband.

Death Magnetic would've been great if it wasn't so crammed and a slave of loudness war. Quality over quantity.

nailed it. so true

This one is a very, very good topic, that reveals something that a lot of people think.

I'll disband Cradle Of Filth (just after Midian)
In Flames (just after The Tokyo Showdowon Live)
Theatre Of Tragedy (after Aegis)
Nightwish (after Tarja)

I know the topic says just ONE, but i put a list thinking about which one would be the band i'd prefere to had disbanded, and if i couldn't which would had been the second one and so.

I think That what Carcass did was amazing, they had an evolution with each record and just when the sound started to be a little "comercial" they disbanded (of course they had re-union) but i guess i made my point.

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.02.2011 at 09:11

and proof that Ripper Owens was never the problem in latter day Iced Earth

Owens has never been the problem with Iced Earth. He did a very good job with the band.
The problem is Schaffer's inability to write good music anymore.

Off the top of my head, Cradle of Filth. When they released Thornography and Darkly, Darkly Venus Aversa, a little bit of me died inside.
Darkthrone should have been destroyed right after Sardonic Wrath. They became a parody of themselves, specially on the last two pieces of garbage that I refuse to call albums.
Satyricon after Nemesis Divina. I don't have a burning hatred for their newer stuff like I do for Darkthrone's, but "Now Diabolical" and "The Age of Nero" sound uninspired and basic as fuck. Volcano and Rebel Rebel Extravaganza are painfully average, IMO.

Now I realize that the OP requested that we write just ONE band that we'd like to disband. Impossible for me, as even these three are just the tip of an iceberg.

Written by Slayer666 on 07.02.2011 at 14:36

Darkthrone should have been destroyed right after Sardonic Wrath. They became a parody of themselves, specially on the last two pieces of garbage that I refuse to call albums.

Seriously? Darkthrone are probably more black metal than ever. Maybe the current sound isn't "true Norwegian black metal", but the idea behind the music is exactly what black metal culture represents. It's a shame people are so ignorant about this concept. Is the music the greatest? No. Truth be told I'm not even a big fan of the sound, but to call Darkthrone a "parody"...that's just spite talking.

Written by Irritable Ted on 07.02.2011 at 13:57

I would like to disband the group of people who are STILL going on about Tarja. For fucks sake, get over it.

Look at the shit she is producing now. Is that better than DPP?

My honest opinion, yes, it is. Not better as in more metal, but I still enjoy it more than DPP.

And if you would actually read my post, you would see that I'm not going on about Tarja, I'm going on about Anette. If the chemistry in Nightwish was bad, then it indeed was a right choice to sack Tarja. It's Anette that is the problem, not the firing of Tarja.

Written by [user id=105293] on 05.02.2011 at 23:39

Written by Malevolent-Jim on 05.02.2011 at 22:23

Nightwish seriously need to rethink how they're making their music now...It just went downhill since Tarja left.Thats about it really.

Nightwish don't need to rethink anything, because Tarja didn't write anything. She made no music, no lyrics, no anything. She sang only and to be frank, since she didn't use her opera voice on the last two albums, she might as well have handed the mic over to Marco, who's always been superior right after Wishmaster.

Tarja didn't use her opera voice because she doesn't make the music, lyrics, or anything. Century Child and Once are very good albums, but they are no where near the quality Oceanborn and Wishmaster.

So I do agree that they need to rethink their music. Toumas is trying to compose movie scores, or rather, he is trying to be Hans Zimmer, and frankly that will never happen.

Nightwish lost their originality, now they are in the same category as Lunatica, Vision of Atlantis, and the other thousand mediocre female fronted power/symphonic bands.

But anyway, I hope they don't disband, I just hope that they find their way because it would be a waste to piss away the talent of three great singers.

Anette is over 40 years old and has 2 kids, so I believe Nightwish will eventually have the chance to redeem themselves and pick a decent singer, not necessarily an operatic singer.

They still offer a lot of potential so I rather like keeping my hopes before wishing them to disband.

Written by Wintersun616 on 07.02.2011 at 06:28

Where did I say it has to be opera singer? Nope. There are plenty of good styles to sing metal, but they had to go for the pop singer.

What makes Anette less metal than a classically trained mezzo soprano? Since when is opera inherently close to metal, but Anette is close to pop?

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Also, I am not a Tarja fanboy, I just don't like poppy princess 'Nettie. Not liking the opposite does not automatically make me a fanboy of the other.

How is Anette any more pop then Tarja? Anette sings in a metal band, Tarja's solo stuff is pop with classical influences and occasional stabs at metal. So how is Anette more pop than Tarja?

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Same for GLS and PatP. Anette's singing makes it pop metal, because she sounds, acts and looks like a pop star.

Anette looks and acts like a pop star? By doing what? By having fun on stage??? By wearing what she want to wear??? Judas Priest...

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 07.02.2011 at 11:36

Yes i know all about them(I was like huge fan of Nightwish ,and I still am....),but DPP was something that ruined all that i liked .I dont mean on vocals ,but on whole impression I've got....

What impression? What's the difference between Nemo and Amaranth? Or between Wish I had an angel and Bye Bye Beautiful? They're basically identical commercial singles. Once and Century Child had one long epic and so did DPP. Once and Century Child both had 1 angry song and so did DPP. What's the difference? It's still the same dark atmopshere and the cinematic Hans Zimmeresque soundscape. DPP was a completely logical follow-up to Once, there was no change.

Written by 4look4rd on 07.02.2011 at 16:05

Nightwish lost their originality, now they are in the same category as Lunatica, Vision of Atlantis, and the other thousand mediocre female fronted power/symphonic bands.

First of all, Therion already did operatic symphonic metal before Nightwish. Second, how does Nightwish loose it's originality just because thousands of copycats emerge, when Tuomas is clearly a superior songwriter?

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Written by Wintersun616 on 07.02.2011 at 06:28

Where did I say it has to be opera singer? Nope. There are plenty of good styles to sing metal, but they had to go for the pop singer.

What makes Anette less metal than a classically trained mezzo soprano? Since when is opera inherently close to metal, but Anette is close to pop?

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Also, I am not a Tarja fanboy, I just don't like poppy princess 'Nettie. Not liking the opposite does not automatically make me a fanboy of the other.

How is Anette any more pop then Tarja? Anette sings in a metal band, Tarja's solo stuff is pop with classical influences and occasional stabs at metal. So how is Anette more pop than Tarja?

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Same for GLS and PatP. Anette's singing makes it pop metal, because she sounds, acts and looks like a pop star.

Anette looks and acts like a pop star? By doing what? By having fun on stage??? By wearing what she want to wear??? Judas Priest...

If you honestly think that Anette is as good metal singer than Tarja, OK, I don't have a problem with that, even though I don't agree. And now that's a very bad comparison if I ever saw one. Anette is like Judas Priest? Roflmao.

Apocalyptica. Seventh symphony was awful, I've never bought an album that has actually left a bad taste in my mouth.