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Special thanks goes to Lucas for the "rejoice" part and the inspiration on the opening part according to the Halmstad-Fodd connection
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05.06.2011 - 15:59Rating: 8
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8,5?
No, just no... This album is just not good.
The review is well written, good work... But I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote. This is completely unispiring, the atmosphere is GONE. We're left with something that sounds pretty much like Dream Theater doing black metal: well executed music, well composed... but completely soulless.
There's just one track that it's really good but unfortunately can't save the rest of the album for shit and that is Förtvivlan, Min Arvedel. It's the only good track and the first track I listened so I thought "omg they are doing something of real quality once again!" but all went downhill from there. If all the other songs had the same power from the first track it could have been a wonderful album but they blew it. I also disagree that "the clean vocals aren't that special" I think that was a big improvement from Kvarforth to do something different that worked on many levels.
Sadly.... he only does that type of vocals on the first track because the other songs have SO annoying clean vocals specially on "Tillsammans är vi allt"... I mean... what? Is that shining? It sounds like a completely different band with clean vocals that could have been found easily on a lame rock/metal song from the radio, no passion at all... It sounds fake both the voocals and the music. I could see myself buying this album just for the first song... Such a shame too see this wonderful band going downhill.
6,0 - 6,5 from me.
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I disagree and agree with different portions of your review. In terms of the philosophy behind this album, and partially in terms of the sound, there's a few areas of interest that I try to point out when people mention this album.
Firstly, I (almost) hated VI, and this album blows that out of the water. I'd also say it's more a continuation of V - at least emotionally, as VI simply lacked any of what Kvarforth is known for expressing. Musically it's not nearly as raw or "black" as III/IV/V, the "suicidal" vibe is more or less reduced as a result of an incredibly slick production, and the focus on melody over aggression takes a bit of a turn for the worst - at least for some.
The repetition I believe is a metaphor in a sense, as are several elements found in VI, but the role of repetition sets this apart from Shining's previous releases. As progressive in nature as it appears, the guitars seem to borrow a lot of riffs from each other over the course of the album, sometimes even lending an apparent homage to its predecessors, which to me reveals a certain nature in Kvarforth: that he's stuck - he's trying to grow or evolve from his position but something's holding him back. He repeats the same mistakes over and over when in reality he's trying to "get out".
Which leads to my second point; as I've said before, this album is a completely different approach to depression. It strays from the personal self-loathing and aims for a more "social" form of depression, which is perfectly summed up by the video they released earlier. I mean the self-mutilation is there, but it's not just cutting and overdosing on drugs alone in your basement, it's about getting fucked up with people who feel the same negativity. It's like a few people from a suicide support group going out for a few drinks. Eventually their true nature is revealed, but at least they have each other - as fucked up as they all may be.
And that kind of vibe makes me think that, at least in one sense, Kvarforth seems to be more accepting of his sorrow and apparently finds solace in drowning his miseries with like-minded people/friends - something not really seen before with Shining. The more blatant use of clean vocals - a different approach to the music - perhaps implies a different approach to life. It's not just about dreaming of suicide, it's about moving on from the worthless pile of shit that is currently his life, to start something new. The repetition mentioned earlier is what negates Kvarforth from becoming a whole person instead of bits of broken pieces.
Shining's first few albums were the caterpillar, a tiny bug bent on self-destruction and introspective annihilation. VI and VII set up a bit of a cocoon molding for Kvarforth's future releases, which in turn should eventually lead to a butterfly effect...and that will likely be the end of Shining as we know it. Whether or not it's a result of Kvarforth moving on or repeating the same mistakes will likely be revealed in the near future.
Of course, it is just another album by a band that presumably markets self-mutilation for profit and uses it as a gimmick, but I think Kvarforth makes it easy to analyze his work like this. To me, that's the work of an artist.
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So Troy's saying that this is not " Depressive Suicide Black Metal" but is actually " Was Feeling Depressed And Suicidal But Actually Feeling A Bit Better Now Black Metal"
No wonder it failed
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05.06.2011 - 16:39Rating: 8
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.06.2011 at 16:24
And that kind of vibe makes me think that, at least in one sense, Kvarforth seems to be more accepting of his sorrow and apparently finds solace in drowning his miseries with like-minded people/friends - something not really seen before with Shining. The more blatant use of clean vocals - a different approach to the music - perhaps implies a different approach to life. It's not just about dreaming of suicide, it's about moving on from the worthless pile of shit that is currently his life, to start something new. The repetition mentioned earlier is what negates Kvarforth from becoming a whole person instead of bits of broken pieces.
This sounds LOVELY on theory as I really liked your vision of the album and agree with most of it. But yeah... An awesome theory would have been even better with awesome music but no, he's stuck like you said doing meh-stuff. I appreciate his effort but it's still a bad album from him. My expectations after the first track were huge but then he crushed them.
I'm right now lsitening to Tiden Läker Inga Sår and I can hardly stand his vocals and the riff on the beginning because of how fake it sounds (around the 2.00 mark)  Even that interesting approach in philosophy won't save this album.
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05.06.2011 - 20:42Rating: 7
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It's better than most Black Metal outputs this year, but it really isn't Depressive Black Metal anymore, it's plain Progressive Black Metal. I didn't really enjoy VI, so while this much better Kvaforth is losing his drive. Well executed,it has its moments but nothing mind blowing, I say that after over 10 listens, my favorite track is easily Tiden Läker Inga Sår. So it is worth a couple of listens. Good review.
@Troy you might over analyzing because I didn't get that vibe at all, it didn'y feel as personal as III or IV.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 05.06.2011 at 16:28
So Troy's saying that this is not "Depressive Suicide Black Metal" but is actually "Was Feeling Depressed And Suicidal But Actually Feeling A Bit Better Now Black Metal"
Y' know, I can actually see this as a legitimate sub-genre within the next few years.
Yup, a meh album, through and through. First track is pretty solid and I rather like "Tillsammans Är Vi Allt", but the rest is pretty mediocre with "I Nattens Timma" being a total piece of garbage.
@Troy
That shit's deep man, but hardly strikes me as true.
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Troy, you smoke weed now?
Sadly, their music video is so embarrassingly bad to me that it ruined any desire I had of listening to this album
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05.06.2011 - 22:03Rating: 8
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I like it. Perhaps this Kvarforth character just realized being sad all the time is stupid.
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05.06.2011 - 23:35Rating: 8
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I decided to give this band a chance despite the particular "genre" they play. I've been going through their whole discography, and I enjoy every album. I need to give each album more listens, but I don't see why this album is getting bashed so hard by certain people. I think its as good as all their other releases. Perhaps not better than certain ones, but still good.
EDIT: Good review btw.
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Shining's worst album by far. Like Mr. Doc. sai it sounds like Dream Theater trying to to play depressive suicidal bm, totally soulless. even more unimpressive than the already bad VI
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06.06.2011 - 02:19Rating: 7
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It's better than VI that's for sure, I liked the first two tracks and the videoclip, the rest is kinda meh as everyone had said and the clean vocals weren't that awesome, woulda rate like 7 or so..
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06.06.2011 - 22:57Rating: 5
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The review is a lot better than the album which, sadly, is quite shitty. Kvarforth is in dire need of new ideas.
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I really had low expectations for this album when I heard the first song online, because it still reminded me way too much of the past two albums. VI was a disgrace in the way that they moved nowhere, and while it reflected what Shining started doing in V, it was merely the same expression. The cover song was the best song on there, and when I learned that it was not so much different from the cover, that was another letdown. Although I have to say that last song was brilliant, especially those chords constantly progressing, and giving out that depressive aura.
When I heard VII in its entirety tho, things changed. One: First song in better quality sounded much better with all its details, two: the song fit perfectly into the flow of the album. I think that Shining did truly evolve in this album (just the way Opeth is evolving into a more proggy style) and it's incredible that even at the moments of quiet melody, the band is still able to deliver mischief. It's not only about Kvarforth singing in agony, but also a melodical despair that Eerie Cold was able to deliver. It is not for everyone, because things now get much more richer in texture, but I enjoy what the band is capable of delivering despite their step away from the patterns of V/VI. Definitely not my favorite album, but still would get more spins than VI did!
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Written by Pyramid God on 05.06.2011 at 22:03
I like it. Perhaps this Kvarforth character just realized being sad all the time is stupid.
I hope he kills himself again but gets reborn as this cool dude that explores a different region of black/prog blend. I mean, come on, if Christ resurrected in the same clothes and facial hair, and acted as people say he did way back, that would be ridiculous. But who knows, maybe Christ resurrected as a flower or a beluga whale.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 05.06.2011 at 15:59
8,5?
No, just no... This album is just not good.
The review is well written, good work... But I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote. This is completely unispiring, the atmosphere is GONE. We're left with something that sounds pretty much like Dream Theater doing black metal: well executed music, well composed... but completely soulless.
There's just one track that it's really good but unfortunately can't save the rest of the album for shit and that is Förtvivlan, Min Arvedel. It's the only good track and the first track I listened so I thought "omg they are doing something of real quality once again!" but all went downhill from there. If all the other songs had the same power from the first track it could have been a wonderful album but they blew it. I also disagree that "the clean vocals aren't that special" I think that was a big improvement from Kvarforth to do something different that worked on many levels.
Sadly.... he only does that type of vocals on the first track because the other songs have SO annoying clean vocals specially on "Tillsammans är vi allt"... I mean... what? Is that shining? It sounds like a completely different band with clean vocals that could have been found easily on a lame rock/metal song from the radio, no passion at all... It sounds fake both the voocals and the music. I could see myself buying this album just for the first song... Such a shame too see this wonderful band going downhill.
6,0 - 6,5 from me.
I totally agree with you.
Are you joking?? 8,5??
I listened a lot of times, I feel sick now. Is a cold album, I don't feel anything.
A band that is totally overrated, playing good doesn't mean make good music.
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13.07.2012 - 13:53Rating: 8
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Written by Funeralium on 13.07.2012 at 13:02
A band that is totally overrated, playing good doesn't mean make good music.
Well, personally I think all their albums from the first one up to the fifth one deserve all the praise they get. It got awful from VI...
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