Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Lol I never really got much on the Summoning hype, so I think I'm a bit out of place here
However, LMHSYF was their first album I heard, and it is quite great indeed.
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Erik M.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.04.2014 at 21:49
Lol I never really got much on the Summoning hype, so I think I'm a bit out of place here
However, LMHSYF was their first album I heard, and it is quite great indeed.
Oh, I figured you heard most, if not all, of their stuff, being a Tolkien fan and having reviewed Old Mornings Dawn.
Funnily LMHSYF was the very last album I checked out and turned out to be the best of them all, for me.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Erik M. on 23.04.2014 at 21:52
I figured you heard most, if not all, of their stuff, being a Tolkien fan
Well even if their music doesn't strike me as necessarily creative (even if it is epic as fuck), I can definitely appreciate the authenticity and volume of their Tolkien fetishes, they're pretty hardcore. For example, that spoken bit in Bauglir is a direct quote, Morgoth cursing Hurin after the latter mocks him in The Silmarillion. And then the end is Orcs (I think) chanting LORD AND MASTER in reference to him.
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I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
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Erik M.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.04.2014 at 21:57
Well even if their music doesn't strike me as necessarily creative (even if it is epic as fuck), I can definitely appreciate the authenticity and volume of their Tolkien fetishes, they're pretty hardcore. For example, that spoken bit in Bauglir is a direct quote, Morgoth cursing Hurin after the latter mocks him in The Silmarillion. And then the end is Orcs (I think) chanting LORD AND MASTER in reference to him.
Damn you, I never get all those references. But still, I like the lyrics a lot generally, as they do add to the epicness of the music (even more so if you know Tolkien's works of course). But honestly, I like everything about this band, but that shouldn't come as a surprise to you I'd guess.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Erik M. on 23.04.2014 at 22:03
Damn you, I never get all those references. But still, I like the lyrics a lot generally, as they do add to the epicness of the music (even more so if you know Tolkien's works of course). But honestly, I like everything about this band, but that shouldn't come as a surprise to you I'd guess.
There are plenty of Tolkien-themed bands out there, the best is really just a matter of preference since they're spread out over a pretty wide diversity of metal subgenres.
My favorite album in this regard though has to be (don't kill me!) Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. Cheesy, yeah, but I get the references, and singing along alone to it when no one else is around is a true guilty pleasure that makes me feel like I'm in 5th grade and reading the trilogy for the first time all over again
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I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
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Erik M.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.04.2014 at 22:07
There are plenty of Tolkien-themed bands out there, the best is really just a matter of preference since they're spread out over a pretty wide diversity of metal subgenres.
My favorite album in this regard though has to be (don't kill me!) Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. Cheesy, yeah, but I get the references, and singing along alone to it when no one else is around is a true guilty pleasure that makes me feel like I'm in 5th grade and reading the trilogy for the first time all over again
I know there are plenty of Tolkien-finfluenced bands, but Summoning is my favourite of them all. And this is going to surprise you, but I actually own that Blind Guardian album. I bought it many years ago because of the cover art. I only listened to it once and never again, so you can guess I didn't like it at all. Anyway, LMHSYF is my favourite Tolkien-influenced album without a doubt. Vordven's debut comes after it, probably. No idea why some people hate that album, as to me it's absolutely marvelous.
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Erik M.
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For anyone who's curious, here's the overlooked gem of an album:
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I wonder how much longer Erik can milk interest in this list
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Erik M.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 24.04.2014 at 15:28
I wonder how much longer Erik can milk interest in this list
As long as I'm able to.
But honestly, I don't see the problem you have with this list. Hell, if I do say so myself, it's a lot better than your usual "best to worst" list because I at least added full album Youtube links, ratings, my favourite tracks and short descriptions of each album. All things I haven't seen on any "best to worst" list on MS. Not to mention it's only the 2nd list of its kind (PocketMetal having the first one), while lots of bands have lots of "best to worst" lists.
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Written by Erik M. on 25.04.2014 at 20:42
But honestly, I don't see the problem you have with this list. Hell, if I do say so myself, it's a lot better than your usual "best to worst" list because I at least added full album Youtube links, ratings, my favourite tracks and short descriptions of each album. All things I haven't seen on any "best to worst" list on MS. Not to mention it's only the 2nd list of its kind (PocketMetal having the first one), while lots of bands have lots of "best to worst" lists.
Well while it may better than your average "best to worst" list, it's still a "best to worst" list, and of a band that has many albums that are very similar. Personally I just don't it a very exciting or interesting premise, even if I was a huge fan of the band. So yeah, nothing inherently wrong with the list, I'm just amazed how long you've tried to keep it alive for by swapping albums around, adding EPs (or not in this case it seems) etc. when at the end of the day it's not a particularly useful list to have around.
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Imo it's a good list, I always like it when people make mini-reviews. The first 3 albums would be the same for me, and no.4 would be Oath Bound. As for the others, I could never got into them... Although one of my favorite songs is The Legend of the Master Ring which is on Minas Morgul. I wish the others were not so damn boring there
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Erik M.
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Written by [user id=36134] on 26.04.2014 at 23:49
Imo it's a good list, I always like it when people make mini-reviews. The first 3 albums would be the same for me, and no.4 would be Oath Bound. As for the others, I could never got into them... Although one of my favorite songs is The Legend of the Master Ring which is on Minas Morgul. I wish the others were not so damn boring there
Thanks! And I'm glad you like the mini-reviews. Personally I like every single album (their 3 EP's included), but seeing as the differences between the albums are pretty big I can see why you don't equally enjoy them. Then again, you gave Minas Morgul a 5, which is incredibly harsh. Not to mention Minas Morgul is the first Summoning album that features their characteristic style, so it does score a perfect 10 for originality, whether you like the album or not. Like I wrote in the description, it was my first Summoning album and really took me a lot of spins to grasp and like it. I'd suggest you to give it another chance, but I can't force you to do so (sadly ). It really contains some awesome melodies (which must appeal to you) and lots of variety. My favourite song is probably Morthond (stunningly beautiful intro), though I love most of the tracks (Dagor Bragollach is brilliant as well).
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Erik M.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 26.04.2014 at 16:35
Well while it may better than your average "best to worst" list, it's still a "best to worst" list, and of a band that has many albums that are very similar. Personally I just don't it a very exciting or interesting premise, even if I was a huge fan of the band. So yeah, nothing inherently wrong with the list, I'm just amazed how long you've tried to keep it alive for by swapping albums around, adding EPs (or not in this case it seems) etc. when at the end of the day it's not a particularly useful list to have around.
First of all, what's up with that 2nd sentence?
Secondly, I do agree with you to an extent that "best to worst" lists generally aren't the most exciting/useful type of lists. But obviously I tried to keep it alive (and it's still alive) by swapping albums around (and spamming it in the shoutbox ). The point of these kind of lists are basically to just discuss your opinion on a certain band's albums with others, but in Summoning's case it's something more. Old Mornings Dawn was, and still is, a very popular album, but over the months I came to the conclusion most people who voted for it didn't vote for any other Summoning album. So that's one of the reasons: to motivate people to check out their other albums as well, since they're worth it to be listened to. And even you must agree that LMHSYF is an album that any Epic Black Metal fan has to check out. And let's be honest, it's definitely one of their least popular albums (only Minas Morgul and Lugburz are less popular I'd say).
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MHShokuhi
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I never forget when i listened to the Summoning out of curiosity of being a Tolkien fan and having no idea what black metal (i know they aren't black) is and it blowed me away, it was the best experience i had on those days and still one of my favorites...
i like the list, and the mini-reviews (which was not for me because of my different taste ) but i'm curious how you could manage to put the first 3 in the order, i can never pick any of them above each other )))
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Erik M.
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Written by MHShokuhi on 17.09.2014 at 05:15
I never forget when i listened to the Summoning out of curiosity of being a Tolkien fan and having no idea what black metal (i know they aren't black) is and it blowed me away, it was the best experience i had on those days and still one of my favorites...
i like the list, and the mini-reviews (which was not for me because of my different taste ) but i'm curious how you could manage to put the first 3 in the order, i can never pick any of them above each other )))
Well, they surely aren't primarily BM and especially with Old Mornings Dawn they're not BM at all anymore, but most of their albums definitely have BM elements in them or a BM sound (obviously Lugburz is the most BM of them all).
Anyway, thanks! Yeah, I think the mini-reviews are very subjective but they turned out well enough. The top 4 is pretty much set in stone for me, while (at the moment) LMHSYF is definitely their best album. But I agree, it's very hard to rank them. The ranking has already changed quite often since I made this list and I can see it change in the future as well. Simply because their quality is consistently high. Also, I'd encourage people to check out their EP's as well. The Lost Tales EP (strangely it's featured as a Single here) is very interesting and relaxing. The Nightshade Forests EP are simply the songs that they recorded that didn't fit on Dol Guldur anymore, so in terms of quality and style very comparable to Dol Guldur. Their last EP I didn't think is that interesting, but surely a nice take on a few OMD songs. Worth a spin, if anything. I might add those EP's to this list one day, btw.
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MHShokuhi
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Yeah, Lugburz has a very Black Metal-ish sound, i remember i was stuck on track 3 (which i loved the coldness of it, it really fits the name) and couldn't go further because the other stuff was too hard to... how can i say? hard to digest!
the mini-reviews are very good in fact, i really liked your description but not your chosen tracks for most times
good, you encourage people to awesome stuff. in my idea their EPs are great experience too, so i'm waiting for the future and the EPs to be listed here
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Erik M.
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Written by MHShokuhi on 19.09.2014 at 05:34
Yeah, Lugburz has a very Black Metal-ish sound, i remember i was stuck on track 3 (which i loved the coldness of it, it really fits the name) and couldn't go further because the other stuff was too hard to... how can i say? hard to digest!
the mini-reviews are very good in fact, i really liked your description but not your chosen tracks for most times
good, you encourage people to awesome stuff. in my idea their EPs are great experience too, so i'm waiting for the future and the EPs to be listed here
Hmmm, Lugburz is pretty straightforward standard BM with some melodies thrown in. It does have a bit of the Summoning sound already I'd say, but it mostly is BM. Not hard to digest at all, for me. It's just much less interesting than all their other albums. I like pure BM as well and there are other bands that play BM much better than Summoning. Unless you dislike BM, I'd suggest you to check it out fully.
And thanks for the compliments. I'm still not sure whether I'm going to include the EP's, but there's definitely a chance I will.
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MHShokuhi
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It was long ago, but when i listened to it, i liked it a lot more than previous times (actually i didn't have time for digging into BM a lot but i experienced some Immortal, Burzum and some other band which i definitely go for it in future) and by digest i meant both understanding and enjoying the sound of it (it's hard to describe it, even in my mother Tongue :v)
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