Written by SlaytallicA on 12.02.2008 at 23:03

Sepultura was a good or should I say a Awesome band in the Max days,since he left they totally suck!

Yes! awesome band, but even with Max they made Roots that cant be compared to the ones before.

Does anyone know how this "Cavalera Conspiracy" sounds like? It would be so good if they return to the early amazing days

Written by Guest on 31.05.2008 at 22:42


Yes! awesome band, but even with Max they made Roots that cant be compared to the ones before.

Does anyone know how this "Cavalera Conspiracy" sounds like? It would be so good if they return to the early amazing days

Yes, Root wasn't quite so good...
For me Cavalera Conspiracy sounds like Soulfly but it is more Thrash, not compared to Sepultura early days.

Written by SlaytallicA on 31.05.2008 at 23:11

Written by Guest on 31.05.2008 at 22:42


Yes! awesome band, but even with Max they made Roots that cant be compared to the ones before.

Does anyone know how this "Cavalera Conspiracy" sounds like? It would be so good if they return to the early amazing days

Yes, Root wasn't quite so good...
For me Cavalera Conspiracy sounds like Soulfly but it is more Thrash, not compared to Sepultura early days.

I disagree - I reckon CC sounds like a cross between Arise and Chaos AD - there are certainly some thrashing elements in there.

Am loving this album at the moment. Recommend it to any Sepultura fan.

Written by Sonic MrSumo on 06.06.2008 at 10:13

Written by SlaytallicA on 31.05.2008 at 23:11

Written by Guest on 31.05.2008 at 22:42


Yes! awesome band, but even with Max they made Roots that cant be compared to the ones before.

Does anyone know how this "Cavalera Conspiracy" sounds like? It would be so good if they return to the early amazing days

Yes, Root wasn't quite so good...
For me Cavalera Conspiracy sounds like Soulfly but it is more Thrash, not compared to Sepultura early days.

I disagree - I reckon CC sounds like a cross between Arise and Chaos AD - there are certainly some thrashing elements in there.

Am loving this album at the moment. Recommend it to any Sepultura fan.

You both are kinda right. The two newest Soulfly albums have thrash elements, just like Chaos AD does. Actually, I'd be willing to say that Dark Ages is thrashier (and better) than Chaos AD, but maybe that's just me.

Written by Dangerboner on 07.06.2008 at 01:17

Written by Sonic MrSumo on 06.06.2008 at 10:13

Written by SlaytallicA on 31.05.2008 at 23:11

Written by Guest on 31.05.2008 at 22:42


Yes! awesome band, but even with Max they made Roots that cant be compared to the ones before.

Does anyone know how this "Cavalera Conspiracy" sounds like? It would be so good if they return to the early amazing days

Yes, Root wasn't quite so good...
For me Cavalera Conspiracy sounds like Soulfly but it is more Thrash, not compared to Sepultura early days.

I disagree - I reckon CC sounds like a cross between Arise and Chaos AD - there are certainly some thrashing elements in there.

Am loving this album at the moment. Recommend it to any Sepultura fan.

You both are kinda right. The two newest Soulfly albums have thrash elements, just like Chaos AD does. Actually, I'd be willing to say that Dark Ages is thrashier (and better) than Chaos AD, but maybe that's just me.

Still I prefer CC than Soulfly but Old Sepultura is Old Sepultura and there's nothing to do about that, it's way better than those 2 bands!

The ones after Arise do less talking to me,
Arise is my favorite and Beneath is second,
third and so on just go down with the dates labeled on there album.
I love Schizophrenia, what songwriting skills and destroying power.

Written by Candlemass on 20.06.2008 at 20:53

The ones after Arise do less talking to me,
Arise is my favorite and Beneath is second,
third and so on just go down with the dates labeled on there album.
I love Schizophrenia, what songwriting skills and destroying power.

Yeah!! their "Straight up Thrash: period was EASILY the best!

Written by Guest on 21.06.2008 at 18:39

Written by Candlemass on 20.06.2008 at 20:53

The ones after Arise do less talking to me,
Arise is my favorite and Beneath is second,
third and so on just go down with the dates labeled on there album.
I love Schizophrenia, what songwriting skills and destroying power.

Yeah!! their "Straight up Thrash: period was EASILY the best!

Without a doubt, it was the best times for Sepultura! And now I don't know what to expect from the new album...

Click here to hear the new solo track from Andreas Kisser.

So, here's the news.
This album is almost the worst post-Green album so far, in my opinion.
It would be better Sepultura sing Wish You Were Here and dedicate it to Max Cavalera (and Igor of course).

Written by Hamird on 17.01.2009 at 21:36


This album is almost the worst post-Green album so far...

post Green? Green is still part of the band. Don't you mean post Max Cavelara?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.01.2009 at 14:16

Written by Hamird on 17.01.2009 at 21:36


This album is almost the worst post-Green album so far...

post Green? Green is still part of the band. Don't you mean post Max Cavelara?

You're right, I mean post-Cavalera, Against, Nation, Roorback, Dante XXI and the latest album.. My bad English.

Sepultura is coming to Croatia next month. I am considering going to see them live. Does anyone have the same thing on his mind?

Written by Guest on 26.01.2009 at 10:01

Sepultura is coming to Croatia next month. I am considering going to see them live. Does anyone have the same thing on his mind?

I live in Belgium , so I'll skip this one.

I havent listened to any of their stuff past Chaos A.D. is any of it worth listening to?

Written by Demonmayonnaise on 26.01.2009 at 19:37

I havent listened to any of their stuff past Chaos A.D. is any of it worth listening to?

Dante XXI is the best album Sepultura has done since the first four ones. Well... that's my opinion of course.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.01.2009 at 21:05


Dante XXI is the best album Sepultura has done since the first four ones. Well... that's my opinion of course.

I would say the first five ones! Chaos A.D. is a good album.
"Dante XXI is the best album Sepultura has done since the first four (5 for me) ones" and I have to add this:
but Dante XXI is a average album so the other ones must really suck! lol

Green is a good vocalist ... but not Sepultura good! he would be better off if hed started a new band then to join sep. although no vocalist gets close to Max Cavalera! Cavalera brothers forever!

Written by _HIV_ on 26.01.2009 at 23:22

Green is a good vocalist ... but not Sepultura good! he would be better off if hed started a new band then to join sep. although no vocalist gets close to Max Cavalera! Cavalera brothers forever!

And that's exactly the problem... Green is a very good vocalist but doesn't mach Sepultura's style as good as Max.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 27.01.2009 at 01:44

Written by _HIV_ on 26.01.2009 at 23:22

Green is a good vocalist ... but not Sepultura good! he would be better off if hed started a new band then to join sep. although no vocalist gets close to Max Cavalera! Cavalera brothers forever!

And that's exactly the problem... Green is a very good vocalist but doesn't mach Sepultura's style as good as Max.

actually he started his own ban which he fits quite good in

check it out!
http://www.myspace.com/musicadiablo

Written by X-Ray Rod on 27.01.2009 at 01:44

Written by _HIV_ on 26.01.2009 at 23:22

Green is a good vocalist ... but not Sepultura good! he would be better off if hed started a new band then to join sep. although no vocalist gets close to Max Cavalera! Cavalera brothers forever!

And that's exactly the problem... Green is a very good vocalist but doesn't mach Sepultura's style as good as Max.

I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Greene is VASTLY superior vocalwise when comparing him to Max. Greene fits Sepultura loads better. And what I also find a plus is that Greene sounds like an American whereas with Max he had (and still has a funny foreign accent to his vocals.)

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.01.2009 at 23:53



I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Greene is VASTLY superior vocalwise when comparing him to Max. Greene fits Sepultura loads better. And what I also find a plus is that Greene sounds like an American whereas with Max he had (and still has a funny foreign accent to his vocals.)

Hmmm you realy hear accent into Sepultura whit Max vocals, in what song its possible?
Only BIG and famouse band where I hear accent its early Doro and Warlock, she had german accent into singing, only band where its posible hear strong

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.01.2009 at 23:53

I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Greene is VASTLY superior vocalwise when comparing him to Max. Greene fits Sepultura loads better. And what I also find a plus is that Greene sounds like an American whereas with Max he had (and still has a funny foreign accent to his vocals.)

Dude... don't say that about the foreign accent. My english teacher said the same to me and I'm almost hit her on the face XD.
Well. I actually think that it suits the music they did during the first 4 albums. The music was just against everything and the vocals sounded like it comes from many rebels. And I really liked that kind of vocals because it make me think of stuff I used to see every day in Chile and you just think "This system really sucks..." and Max's vocals represent that kind of hate I felt some time ago.

Now the music is different. Of cours that the vocals can't be the same. But I can't think of a re-realese of Beneath The Remains with Green on vocals.
And I also can't think of Dante XXI with Max doing the vocals

Nothing that Seps do these days can compare to what they did in the late 80's. Schizophrenia and Beneath the Remains are timeless classics that cannot be bettered and Arise will always be one of my favourite albums. When it came to Chaos AD I started to lose interest because it was less Thrash orientated than the earlier albums and then when Max and Igor left it all just went down hill. They need to call it a day as there are not even any original members in the band anymore.
I think their finest moments really were Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation though as for me that was Death Metal and the energy on those records is second to none, hell - it even SAYS 'Death Metal' on the inside of the lyric sheet on the vinyl version. Long live the old days and the Troops of Doom!!!!

Written by WITCHCLAN on 05.03.2009 at 00:10

Nothing that Seps do these days can compare to what they did in the late 80's. Schizophrenia and Beneath the Remains are timeless classics that cannot be bettered and Arise will always be one of my favourite albums. When it came to Chaos AD I started to lose interest because it was less Thrash orientated than the earlier albums and then when Max and Igor left it all just went down hill. They need to call it a day as there are not even any original members in the band anymore.
I think their finest moments really were Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation though as for me that was Death Metal and the energy on those records is second to none, hell - it even SAYS 'Death Metal' on the inside of the lyric sheet on the vinyl version. Long live the old days and the Troops of Doom!!!!

Hells yes! 100% agree with you. There's not a lot of bands out there who've been around for several years who can outdo masterpieces now. Its like saying Metallica's St.Anger was the best thus far. lol. Which any smart person on here should know I'm joking. Not related to the music, but sepultura really got me into brazilian boys, I have a vintage poster. hahahaha. But yea, their thrash era was the best. Made me wanna punch babies

No one can replace Max Cavalera

Written by Guest on 06.12.2009 at 15:19

No one can replace Max Cavalera

Fuckin' eh right man. I use to be big into Sepultura when Max was still in the band, I even thought "Roots" was a pretty bad ass album, I still don't mind it actually, for me, Chaos A.D. was the best though. The first Soulfly album was the best out of the bunch, by the time the fourth one came out I lost all interest, and I think I've maybe heard one or two tracks from the Cavalera Conspiracy, either way, I'm glad Max and Igor reconciled after all the years of turmoil.
I always loathed the Derrik Green fronted work of Sepultura, it just wasn't the same any more plus, it may seem stupid to some people but, to have an American lead a Brasilian band that dealt with political and economical struggles of South America just seemed wrong, that was Max's life at one point, it did so well not only because it was some of the heaviest, hardest music out there at the time but, because it really spoke to a lot of people who could comprehend and relate to the lyrical content.

Sepultura were one of my fave bands. "Beneath The Remains", "Arise" and "Chaos AD" are all amazing albums. I really don't understand why people blame Derrick for Seps becoming nu-metal, or even that they started being that when Derrick joined. "Roots" is clearly for the most part a nu-metal album, and the fact Max continued in that musical vein when he started Soulfly, would suggest that he was mostly responsible for that shift musically. Unlike a lot of people, who didn't even give Derrick Green a chance, I wanted to keep loving Seps the same way I did when Max was in the band. "Against" is a decent album, even if it's waaay too patchy to be called a classic. "Sepulnation" is hands down the worst thing Sepultura have ever put out. I can't recall even one decent song from that album, and really, I thought Sepultura were dead once I heard it. "Roorback" was an aptly titled album, as I felt they had redeemed themselves after the atrocity of the previous album. (well, they could only get better after that! ) I actually think this was a great album for the most part, better than "Roots", and more consistent than "Against", for the first time in a long while, I felt proud to call myself a Seps fan once again. Derrick had finally won me over.

"Dante XXI" just continued this, and is my fave album of the Derrick era. This is a hideously underrated album. I remember after I finished listening to it, I said to myself "Sepultura are back!" Then Igor left, and I had very mixed feelings. I finally felt the new band had earned the right to the Sepultura name, then Igor left, and I just find it very hard to see the band now as "Sepultura" as none of the Cavaleras are left. The latest album "A-Lex" just compounds that feeling, as it's really a step back from the previous two albums. There are some good songs on it, but it is overlong, and way too ambitious for it's own good. About half of the album is average or worse, and even though the awesome opener "Moloko Mesto" sounded like their "Arise" era type stuff downtuned, I felt as a whole, the album was a terrible letdown. To me, the next album has to be great, or I probably will no longer see them as Sepultura.

I grew up with the Max era, getting into them round about the time of "Arise". And that album is still my fave that the band ever done. It still had the "...Remains" type sound, but was more adventurous and mature without changing their style as they did on "Chaos AD". "Arise" is definitely the apex of their career so far, and one of the best thrash albums of all time! I will also add though, that "Schizophrenia" has some great songs on it, and was a sign of the monster they were about to become. "R.I.P. (Rest In Pain)" in particular is just frightening, not least because of it's chaotic ending which used to scare me as a kid!

To me, Sepultura didn't die when Max left, but...their classic era has still to be matched. Though maybe it never would have been even if Max had stayed in band. After all, Soulfly have done nothing to touch the greatness of their late 80's-early 90's period. Cavalera Conspiracy's album though is not bad at all, and is a lot better than Sepultura's latest. Methinks it's time for Max and Igor to go back home. (To Sepultura!) Though I didn't hate on Derrick just because he wasn't Max, and have liked some of the stuff he has done while with Sepultura, the classic line-up of Igor, Max, Andreas, and Paulo will always be special to me. And I would love to see them get back together again one day.

Written by {aud}devil on 08.03.2009 at 14:55
Not related to the music, but sepultura really got me into brazilian boys, I have a vintage poster. hahahaha. But yea, their thrash era was the best. Made me wanna punch babies

Though I loath to go off topic with the music. I will admit that I had a major crush on Igor during the "Arise/Chaos AD" era!

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.12.2009 at 09:46

Way too long to quote

I agree with most of your post. I really think that Dante XXI is a damn good "Thrashcore" [or whatever they wanted to do] album... I don't see any filler at all and it's just as long as it has to be.
I haven't heard A-Lex and even though your comment left me quite sad about it [since I really wanted it to be good because of the concept] I will check it out anyway since the songs I've heard from the album were very good. But yeah... I do think it's kinda long.

About the classic stuff, My favorite will always be Schizophrenia and Beneath The Remains being a close second. I just like the rawness of schizophrenia but also that the sognwriting is very good, so it mix the best of two worlds imo: The rawness of the debut and the amazing riffs/overall songwriting for the next two albums.

Sepultura is still one of my most beloved bands... I started to listening to them whenI was 12 with Beneath The Remains and I was just "woooooooooooooow" and the fact that I still got that feeling when I hear those riffs just make it more clear that I will always love their classic era.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.01.2009 at 23:53

Written by X-Ray Rod on 27.01.2009 at 01:44

Written by _HIV_ on 26.01.2009 at 23:22

Green is a good vocalist ... but not Sepultura good! he would be better off if hed started a new band then to join sep. although no vocalist gets close to Max Cavalera! Cavalera brothers forever!

And that's exactly the problem... Green is a very good vocalist but doesn't mach Sepultura's style as good as Max.

I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Greene is VASTLY superior vocalwise when comparing him to Max. Greene fits Sepultura loads better. And what I also find a plus is that Greene sounds like an American whereas with Max he had (and still has a funny foreign accent to his vocals.)

for me its about charisma and stage pressence which i dont see in green with sepultura songs (i mean the songs that were recorded with max) and as far as his brazilian accent ... its fucking awsome