Merchant of Doom
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They do have ties to funeral doom (some tracks have influences), but generally they are NOT a funeral doom band. Describing them as a funeral doom band is misleading. Not too difficult to understand. And I'm not getting uptight at all... We agree to disagree, but please stop insulting. It's childish.
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 02.12.2012 at 19:47
They do have ties to funeral doom (some tracks have influences), but generally they are NOT a funeral doom band. Describing them as a funeral doom band is misleading. Not too difficult to understand. And I'm not getting uptight at all... We agree to disagree, but please stop insulting. It's childish.
It's not my fault if you were insulted
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Merchant of Doom
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Read your first post... you always do it.
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 02.12.2012 at 19:54
Read your first post... you always do it.
That's not an insult, that is exactly what I think the case is.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
How is that first post by JOOE insulting?
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2012 at 20:02
How is that first post by JOOE insulting?
I guess if he was insulted by it then it's insulting I must have hit a nerve...
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 02.12.2012 at 19:54
Read your first post... you always do it.
Since when do clear, concise points layered with a splash of tongue-in-cheek sarcasm mean insults?
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This really is a great Death/Doom album.
*pours gasoline on the fire*
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Written by Slayer666 on 02.12.2012 at 20:16
This really is a great Death/Doom album.
*pours gasoline on the fire*
....and then, the butterfly effect took hold, causing a tsunami to strike Indonesia. How dare you.
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Written by Slayer666 on 02.12.2012 at 20:16
This really is a great Death/Doom album.
*pours gasoline on the fire*
At least you didn't say "Doom/Death" then shit would definitely hit the fan.
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Slayer666
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 02.12.2012 at 20:18
....and then, the butterfly effect took hold, causing a tsunami to strike Indonesia. How dare you.
Indonesia? Fuck, I was aiming for Japan...
Seriously, though, thanks for the review. There's a pretty good chance I would've missed this album if the review hadn't appeared on the front page.
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I think it's simply the fact that he insists on having the last and final word. At least that's what I get from reading all this amusement. Yes I can hear death/doom but I can also hear definite ties/influences from funeral doom.
But the argument has already expended itself past it's viability. One thing's for sure though, if it keeps up, this review will be listed as a most popular topic in no time flat and Apothecary will be even more famous than he is now.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.12.2012 at 20:20
Written by Slayer666 on 02.12.2012 at 20:16
This really is a great Death/Doom album.
*pours gasoline on the fire*
At least you didn't say "Doom/Death" then shit would definitely hit the fan.
well it is more doom/death than death/doom tbh
or... wait, is it more death/doom than doom/death?
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Written by Raging Dreamer on 02.12.2012 at 20:23
if it keeps up, this review will be listed as a most popular topic in no time flat and Apothecary will be even more famous than he is now.
A man can dream
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2012 at 20:25
well it is more doom/death than death/doom tbh
or... wait, is it more death/doom than doom/death?
I always thought doom/death would be doom-death, i.e. doomy death metal, and vice-a-versa. But then again doom/death could just mean a balance of both in similar amounts (which would make it the same as death/doom).
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Written by [user id=4365] on 02.12.2012 at 20:36
I always thought doom/death would be doom-death, i.e. doomy death metal, and vice-a-versa. But then again doom/death could just mean a balance of both in similar amounts (which would make it the same as death/doom).
nope, doom/death is more death than doom whereas death/doom is more doom than death.
it's quite simple the right hand head rule applies here. So the element the farthest to the right is the dominant one.
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Evil Chip
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Now I'm really confused about genres. I always thought this was Funeral
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2012 at 20:45
Written by [user id=4365] on 02.12.2012 at 20:36
I always thought doom/death would be doom-death, i.e. doomy death metal, and vice-a-versa. But then again doom/death could just mean a balance of both in similar amounts (which would make it the same as death/doom).
nope, doom/death is more death than doom whereas death/doom is more doom than death.
it's quite simple the right hand head rule applies here. So the element the farthest to the right is the dominant one.
That's what I said pretty much : p
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02.12.2012 - 21:53Rating: 9
Great album, great review....
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 03.12.2012 at 00:16
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2012 at 20:02
How is that first post by JOOE insulting?
Quote: because let's be honest: small circle jerk at doom-metal.com is not the masses
that's not insulting? And tell me, Marcel, are Evoken funeral doom? I probably won't get an answer...
I wouldn't call that insulting.
And even though Evoken aren't 100% funeral doom they have more than enough funeral doom elements in their sound to be called as such. you can't call them doom/death, death/doom either since they also aren't that fully. They are a borderline band, so it is alright to call them either.
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Merchant of Doom
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Well, I find that quite offensive. Ok, I don't think I can put up with all this teen-agery stuff anymore. I'm glad I made a few of you (not Marcel, who's been really unsupportive - not that I was expecting it - and will be banned from d-m.com soooon - he might be pleased about that, since he is never to be seen... ) think a bit more about the difference between funeral and death/doom/doom/death stuff. That was my intention. Have a nice evening. It's been kind of entertaining, as usual...
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 03.12.2012 at 00:34
(not Marcel, who's been really unsupportive - not that I was expecting it - and will be banned from d-m.com soooon - he might be pleased about that, since he is never to be seen... )
not that I mind indeed. But I would like to know the precise reason for banning me over on doom-metal.com. Just for not supporting you? Weird reason, I'd say. I know it says satff behind my name there. No idea why though, just because I did a bit of proofreading years ago?
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.12.2012 at 00:40
Written by Merchant of Doom on 03.12.2012 at 00:34
(not Marcel, who's been really unsupportive - not that I was expecting it - and will be banned from d-m.com soooon - he might be pleased about that, since he is never to be seen... )
not that I mind indeed. But I would like to know the precise reason for banning me over on doom-metal.com. Just for not supporting you? Weird reason, I'd say. I know it says satff behind my name there. No idea why though, just because I did a bit of proofreading years ago?
I was only joking, Marcel, you are the voice of reason... I have no idea why you are staff there... it was before my time!
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It's funny someone talking about being "childish" when the adult way to conduct a discussion is to present some kind of evidence or at least construct a half-decent discussion of some sort. Turning up on a bi-monthly basis, spouting the same verbatim "you're wrong, stop conducting reviews wrong" then moaning that you're being treated unfairly or insulted is precisely what I would call a teenagery way to conduct forum conversation (because that's precisely what teens do when they don't get their own way). Nothing worse than someone who thinks their own opinion constitutes fact that requires no further elaboration. I'm fairly sure no advancement has ever been made that way.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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03.12.2012 - 03:25Rating: 9
Awwww I missed all the whiney bullshit :'(
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6098 |
03.12.2012 - 09:43Rating: 8
It's such a shame that a review of such a good album has been dominated by pointless bickering about genres.
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03.12.2012 - 10:28Rating: 8
Written by Merchant of Doom on 03.12.2012 at 10:12
This is my last post on this thread.
Please, keep your word.
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Merchant of Doom
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Deleted... can't be arsed anymore...
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Alex F
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03.12.2012 - 14:43Rating: 8
Guys Evoken clearly play metalcore... get it right
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 03.12.2012 at 03:25
Awwww I missed all the whiney bullshit :'(
This is why we can't have nice things.
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