Written by [user id=4365] on 22.08.2011 at 15:36

I'm largely oblivious to anything thrash or heavy related, at least in the classic sense ;] If you asked me to name Megadeath's best album I probably wouldn't know. I've never even made it past the first couple of songs from Rust In Peace.

Honestly I've never been much of a Slayer or Megadeth fan, neither Metallica. I always get people gasping when I tell them that, its quite the piss off.
So I totally get what you mean. I do listen to some thrash, but not much.

Written by Spirit Molecule on 28.08.2012 at 16:51


Honestly I've never been much of a Slayer or Megadeth fan, neither Metallica. I always get people gasping when I tell them that, its quite the piss off.
So I totally get what you mean. I do listen to some thrash, but not much.

Yeah 90% of metallers probably wouldn't understand the idea that people could listen to metal without listening to, or really liking, those bands. Same with Iron Maiden too if you ask me.

Written by [user id=4365] on 28.08.2012 at 19:03

Yeah 90% of metallers probably wouldn't understand the idea that people could listen to metal without listening to, or really liking, those bands. Same with Iron Maiden too if you ask me.

Even so... I still think the review is crap and I'm not a thrash guy either.

Written by RavenKing on 26.03.2011 at 23:05

Written by Deadmeat on 26.03.2011 at 21:14

you'll find many people and i am one of them claiming that COMA OF SOULS is better than any megadeth or anthrax album

And I'm one of them.
Imo, the first 5 Kreator albums and every album they released since "Violent Revolution" are all better than anything Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax ever released. Only early Slayer (until "Reign In Blood") can compete with the Kreator albums I mentioned.

Anyway, when it comes to the "Big Four" (God I hate this expression), Slayer is the only one I ever liked and cared for.
Metallica? Never liked it and always found it insanely overrated.
Megadeth? Never cared much and never liked.
Anthrax? Never gave a fuck.

I agree with whatever you just said.

How I never read this before I have no clue. You guys are not getting the real message from this "review". This says 'Hey I am a man now and I have outgrown Slayer's adolescent presentation of shock and awe. So be it then! Let the door crack your skull on the way out, People who were not even alive when an album was originally released shouldn't be reviewing the ones considered to be all time classics because they will NEVER know the full impact upon release. When Reign in Blood was brand new NOBODY that I knew personally could play that style. Reign in Blood became what Master of Reality was to many thousands of players. There will never be such an album that carries the influence that Reign in Blood continues to have. Like it or not credit needs to be given.

I can't but agree that this is the most overrated album ever...

Written by deadone on 30.09.2015 at 07:34

You probably would think that as judging by your votes you listen to mainly melodic gothic/black metal and not thrash metal, death metal or indeed anything much pre-2000.

Quite possibly he has never actually listened to the whole album either.

Saying that one of the most influential thrash albums ever is overrated is totally preposterous. I can understand people prefering another thrash album but that has nothing to do with judging an album on its merits.

I for one think Venom's first three albums are total crap but calling those overrated would never cross my mind due to the impact those albums had.

Written by Daniell on 01.10.2015 at 10:12

Written by deadone on 30.09.2015 at 07:34

You probably would think that as judging by your votes you listen to mainly melodic gothic/black metal and not thrash metal, death metal or indeed anything much pre-2000.

Quite possibly he has never actually listened to the whole album either.

And one only needs just under 29-minutes to do that.

Written by Daniell on 01.10.2015 at 10:12

Quite possibly he has never actually listened to the whole album either.

Quite possibly he had an affair with each member of Slayer and upset them, who then went on to kill his dog and burn his house down.

Of course that would also be idle speculation, which is a really lazy way to denigrates someone's opinion, just like any and all "Oh, they probably didn't even listen to it" argument.

Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2015 at 11:01

Of course that would also be idle speculation, which is a really lazy way to denigrates someone's opinion, just like any and all "Oh, they probably didn't even listen to it" argument.

It's not unprecedented.
Go there: http://metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=8685 and read the review.
It was obviously written without hearing the album.
People talk shit about music without hearing it all the time.

Written by Daniell on 02.10.2015 at 16:39

It's not unprecedented.
Go there: http://metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=8685 and read the review.
It was obviously written without hearing the album.
People talk shit about music without hearing it all the time.

But it's baseless speculation on your part as he has one comment with no indication either way, as well as his ratings to go by. Very much an "If they have that particular opinion then they probably didn't listen to the album" type nonsense. I hear that a lot more than opinions from people who probably haven't listened to something they claim to have. Always strikes me as a really weak way of disregarding someone you disagree with. Because of your comment you now have Ace Frawley jumping in, and between the two of you you've created a phantom personality of him. Strawman = knocked down.

For the record I vehemently disagree with blackcanvas and this review.

Have to say I'm quite impressed with the commotion my comment just caused.

Anyway guys, this is just my opinion, so you don't need to be upset if I don't think every track here to be in the same level as angel of death or raining blood. Of course, I know this album is one of the most influential and all that, but thats not my point here. And perhaps you should know me more before stating I didn't listen to it, as I got into metal music mostly through thrash metal, but maybe I shouldn't even be replying to that, because this argument is as stupid as the review itself.

Written by [user id=4365] on 02.10.2015 at 16:54

But it's baseless speculation on your part as he has one comment with no indication either way, as well as his ratings to go by. Very much an "If they have that particular opinion then they probably didn't listen to the album" type nonsense. I hear that a lot more than opinions from people who probably haven't listened to something they claim to have. Always strikes me as a really weak way of disregarding someone you disagree with. Because of your comment you now have Ace Frawley jumping in, and between the two of you you've created a phantom personality of him. Strawman = knocked down.

For the record I vehemently disagree with blackcanvas and this review.

Was just poking a bit of fun, not sure why you have to take everything so seriously and literally. Must just be your personality or perhaps my written comment lacks the other cues required to see that it was just a bit of fun i.e. facial expression or tone of voice that you get in face-to-face interaction.

Written by Ace Frawley on 04.10.2015 at 10:22


Was just poking a bit of fun, not sure why you have to take everything so seriously and literally. Must just be your personality or perhaps my written comment lacks the other cues required to see that it was just a bit of fun i.e. facial expression or tone of voice that you get in face-to-face interaction.

If you say so.

"Reign in Blood" is not so much a 'great album' as it is influential, a key in the evolutionary chain of metal. In terms of someone outside the genre picking a certain album, putting it on a decent stereo and enjoying it this would not be my pick. "Ride the Lightning" would be better for exposing a newcomer to old-school thrash. It's a much more dynamic, more consistent piece of work.

"Reign" is a branching-off point in the development of the Slayer sound, where "Show No Mercy" and "Hell Awaits" are much more adolescent efforts. Each offers a few great songs; "At Dawn They Sleep" and "Black Magic," but overall they are sloppy, forgettable efforts. I feel like "Seasons in the Abyss" is the culmination of the Slayer sound, bringing back the aggression and some of the lyrical sickness lacking in "South of Heaven," but keeping some of the more progressive compositional elements, like spoken vocal passages, from that earlier work: "Hello, hello Mr. Geen... LET ME OUT NOW!!!"

Reign, though, lent musical and lyrical influence to both black and death metal. Certain tracks, "Angel of Death" and "Piece by Piece" (a slab of lyrical sickness offered up by King), probably lent more to death metal, and the middle of the record, "Altar of Sacrifice," and "Jesus Saves" pushed the envelope of questioning Christian authority, making a lot of young people (me) of the era feel okay with doing so. While Slayer is by no means the most important black metal influence - Merciful Fate and Venom are far more influential - they did lend a viciousness, a raw, punkish kick in the ass we hear in faster-paced black metal, bands like Brymir or Stortregn definitely have thrash influence. If you like that faster-paced black metal sound Slayer had a lot to do with vitalizing that aggressive punch.

It is, to be true, a flawed record. The drumming is flat and uninventive: kick-snare-kick-snare for most of the faster sections. Tom is still trying to figure out what kind of vocalist he wants to be, reaching for Judas Priest-type high notes, which let's be honest doesn't work for him. He sounds better screaming in his monotone, which became more comfortable and consistent on "Seasons" and later efforts. That style is easy to criticize, but it works for Slayer. Much like the lead guitars it is hardly the most proficient, but it fits the band's sound.

I would say Slayer achieves something with Reign few bands ever truly do: finding a sound that WORKS, a unique presence, an identity that is definitely one-of-a-kind. Slayer is not "like" anything, Slayer is Slayer, and this is the album which truly set them apart. The strongest piece of the puzzle is Jeff's writing and riffs. This is where the "legendary" status of this record is truly deserved. "Angel of Death" is a guitar masterpiece, unapproached by anyone except possibly Chuck Schuldiner and Death. Slayer in 1986 is an adequate backup band for the man, Jeff Hanneman, who is changing the way the instrument is played. As the band developed into a mature outfit with "South of Heaven" and beyond, they became the "bad news bears" of metal, a misfit band of less-than-perfect musicians who found a way to win. Eventually everyone began to find their groove and work together as a unit. Jeff was owning it on "Reign in Blood", though, kicking pure ass regardless of the underdeveloped band he was a part of.

Slayer is blue-collar, approachable yet shocking. They made us (well at least me) feel like we could do this, too, and this launched countless careers of musicians who continue to make great music today. My own career never quite took off, but it was Slayer who gave me the balls to get up on stage and try!

Reading about kerrang, those magazines even Kerrang is not TrOO metal anyway, are paid to write good shit Is say X or Y ms reviver can say better words about music as any mainstream music media magazines and reviews

Ciotopedal

Edgy...

The reviewer should be arrested and shot. Abomination of a review. RiB overrated:) go listen to justin bieber dude:))

I agree, shooting people for expressing their opinions about music is super reasonable.

There is no place for reason when reading this review:)

This review is absolute bollocks but represents a not entirely uncommon point of view. I was in a rock bar near me recently and the dude behind the bar refused to play this "because it is shit"!

Written by [user id=136396] on 05.08.2020 at 22:45

The reviewer should be arrested and shot. Abomination of a review. RiB overrated:) go listen to justin bieber dude:))

What a mature way to initiate riveting and credible discourse.

I don't agree with the method this reviewer used to convey their opinion, but I agree with the opinion. I respect and value Slayer's influence, but I've always found their music insipid and forgettable. I am, however, extraordinarily grateful that other people, namely musicians that I've grown to love, did not share my opinion and were instead inspired by Slayer's music and aimed to expand upon their influence, thus creating music that I enjoy.

Uppss sorry to upset you with my immature response happened to be having a few drinks and listening to Slayer at the time
still my view prevails though hahah!
sorry to upset any woke people or is not not allowed to say people anymore lol
btw i did not mean to literally shot the poor guy have some distance
i love the record and also have a right to express my view
in any case to give RiB 4.5 is a fuckin disgrace

I would like the album much more if the songs had actually good solos. I find the solos so atrocious! Why did they think that nonsensical whining of guitar strings would be enjoyable to listen to?
I prefer the melodic influence on Show No Mercy. Seasons in the Abyss also did a better job with a great atmosphere of dark riffs - and the solos are bearable at least!

Haha man... Can you imagine rating Reign In Blood a 4.5? Edgiest man alive.

Give me a sec I'll go rate Paranoid, Moving Pictures, Ride The Lightning, Powerslave, Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I and Blackwater Park a 3... I wanna be edgy too.

Also stuff like "they don't deserve to be a part of the big 4" What is this? It was a marketing stunt not some sort of recognition created by the fans. Even so, lets say it was, what other thrash band would "deserve" it more in your opinion? So we forget the rest of their discography which, you say yourself, "is worth picking up". Let's not forget that these guys made Hell Awaits, Show No Mercy, Seasons In The Abyss and South of Heaven? Know a lot of thrash bands with that many bangers? Please, point them to me, I suppose I must be off my thrash game.

I mean at the end of the day, like what you like and that is fine by me, but shitting on one of the most influential thrash releases and band... I simply can't take this seriously. It sounds more like wanting to score some edge points and stirring the pot more than anything else.

Edit: Damn already read and commented on that in 2010, completely forgot, Im getting old