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13.04.2010 - 16:47Rating: 10
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Wish I had read jupitreas' article about industrial music before writing this.
Althou there is not much to do. As he says in the article, the label of ''industrial'' in the Ministry influenced bands is already deeply stabilished. Not much to do.
But still, is good to let some things clear... call NIN sampler rock (or alternatively electronic rock and metal  ) as it is suggested in the article could at least call some attention for that matter.
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Amazing album, NIN fuckin rules
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14.04.2010 - 06:22Rating: 10
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I think everything works for this album. While the lyrics would normally come across as angsty and immature, I buy em coming from trent at that point in his career. While he never topped the downward spiral, I thought Year Zero came pretty close to equaling it. My only complaint of the review is rather tedious: Only an 8 out of 10 for production?! I think its one of the best produced albums of all time. How Reznor creates a landscape of sounds is amazing. Really, sound production is his strong point.
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14.04.2010 - 15:25Rating: 10
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Written by Joey Jo Jo on 14.04.2010 at 06:22
Only an 8 out of 10 for production?! I think its one of the best produced albums of all time. How Reznor creates a landscape of sounds is amazing. Really, sound production is his strong point.
You're right  Its just a problem that I have with the Production slot in the reviews... I give their rate usually regarding the ''cleansing'' of the sound, independently if fits the album's atmosphere or not. And Downward Spiral has not a glass-clean production. Plus the well calculated track-lenghts and tempo sonority ended up in the 8/10.
But I should change that behaviour... since atmosphere has a major importance when it comes to music, and the production really helped when we talk about this album...
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Written by Uirapuru on 14.04.2010 at 15:25
You're right Its just a problem that I have with the Production slot in the reviews... I give their rate usually regarding the ''cleansing'' of the sound, independently if fits the album's atmosphere or not. And Downward Spiral has not a glass-clean production. Plus the well calculated track-lenghts and tempo sonority ended up in the 8/10.
But I should change that behaviour... since atmosphere has a major importance when it comes to music, and the production really helped when we talk about this album...
Regarding how clean the sound is? No offense dude but that was a nice joke from your part. Seeing bands like Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone, Shining and so on in your favorite list I can almost see your reviews with grades around 8-9 and the production grade being a 4 or something
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14.04.2010 - 18:35Rating: 10
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 14.04.2010 at 17:49
Written by Uirapuru on 14.04.2010 at 15:25
You're right Its just a problem that I have with the Production slot in the reviews... I give their rate usually regarding the ''cleansing'' of the sound, independently if fits the album's atmosphere or not. And Downward Spiral has not a glass-clean production. Plus the well calculated track-lenghts and tempo sonority ended up in the 8/10.
But I should change that behaviour... since atmosphere has a major importance when it comes to music, and the production really helped when we talk about this album...
Regarding how clean the sound is? No offense dude but that was a nice joke from your part. Seeing bands like Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone, Shining and so on in your favorite list I can almost see your reviews with grades around 8-9 and the production grade being a 4 or something 
Yes... that is probably what I would do..
Bad production is bad production... if it fits the atmosphere in a perfect way is a completly different matter, and the text of the review will let clear that the raw sound is what make the album so great.
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Written by Uirapuru on 14.04.2010 at 18:35
Bad production is bad production... if it fits the atmosphere in a perfect way is a completly different matter, and the text of the review will let clear that the raw sound is what make the album so great.
I don't think it's a different matter, both the clean-level and how it fits are the things that make a production bad or good, not the clean-level alone.
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14.04.2010 - 18:50Rating: 10
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 14.04.2010 at 18:43
Written by Uirapuru on 14.04.2010 at 18:35
Bad production is bad production... if it fits the atmosphere in a perfect way is a completly different matter, and the text of the review will let clear that the raw sound is what make the album so great.
I don't think it's a different matter, both the clean-level and how it fits are the things that make a production bad or good, not the clean-level alone.
Well.. its not the clean level all alone... in the production I also take into account the structure of the album (track lenghts, unnecessary filler parts, faster or slower recording in inappropriate moments, etc.).
I see how wrong this may seem, since bad production isn't always ''bad''... but I just feel like the cleasiness of the sound should have some importance nonetheless...
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I wish I could appreciate this album the way I do Pretty Hate Machine or the Broken EP, both of which have far better songs rather than just being showcases for various industrial textures like this. It's a good album but I don't think I'm ever gonna love it.
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05.12.2012 - 03:04Rating: 10
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Written by [user id=4365] on 01.09.2011 at 01:18
I wish I could appreciate this album the way I do Pretty Hate Machine or the Broken EP, both of which have far better songs rather than just being showcases for various industrial textures like this. It's a good album but I don't think I'm ever gonna love it.
Weird from a guy who is used to much more "obscure" - texture oriented albums. Although I don't think this is completely the case
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Written by Evil Chip on 05.12.2012 at 03:04
Weird from a guy who is used to much more "obscure" - texture oriented albums. Although I don't think this is completely the case 
Yeah the tone and approach on this has never quite gelled with me. Feels a bit like a haphazard collage of sounds. For once I appreciate the band being a bit more straightforward
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05.12.2012 - 03:33Rating: 10
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Behind that haphazard or wall of abrassive sounds there are often not so strange and straightforward song structures. For instance you should try it again (just saying)
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Written by Evil Chip on 05.12.2012 at 03:33
Behind that haphazard or wall of abrassive sounds there are often not so strange and straightforward song structures. For instance you should try it again (just saying) 
Well I've given it 8 apparently so it seems I do like it, just as much as the two records that precede it
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