Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Well, I am one of those that totally does not get this album. Which might sound weird cause I abslutely loved Thematic Emanation Of Archetypal Multiplicity.
even though I don't get MoRT I do find it much more interesting than the generic melodic black metal featured on Ultima Thulée, Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age and
Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars. Those three are unjustifiably praised if you ask me.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2010 at 13:33
Well, I am one of those that totally does not get this album. Which might sound weird cause I abslutely loved Thematic Emanation Of Archetypal Multiplicity.
even though I don't get MoRT I do find it much more interesting than the generic melodic black metal featured on Ultima Thulée, Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age and
Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars. Those three are unjustifiably praised if you ask me.
Definitely agreed on those 3 albums; I never listen to them these days, and never really liked it when I first listened to them. But yeah, I see TEoAM as just an extension of The Work... really, MoRT is something almost entirely different, I've stopped begrudging people who don't like it. I'm fairly sure the countless hours of sitting through (and slowly learning to appreciate) Merzbow and similar groups have helped me like this album.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2010 at 13:33
Well, I am one of those that totally does not get this album. Which might sound weird cause I abslutely loved Thematic Emanation Of Archetypal Multiplicity.
even though I don't get MoRT I do find it much more interesting than the generic melodic black metal featured on Ultima Thulée, Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age and
Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars. Those three are unjustifiably praised if you ask me.
MoRT is an acquired taste, it's enjoyable but not groundbreaking.
@Marcel, I honestly don't understand why you find those 3 albums to be generic, they're more than solid especially Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age, the riffs are catchy and raw to say the least, so I believe that your judgment only applies on a personal scale because those three albums are far from being unjustifiably praised, I could write a a whole page praising the concept and the musicianship of those releases.
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Written by Mikyz on 24.05.2010 at 16:12
@Marcel, I honestly don't understand why you find those 3 albums to be generic, they're more than solid especially Memoria Vetusta I: Fathers of the Icy Age, the riffs are catchy and raw to say the least, so I believe that your judgment only applies on a personal scale because those three albums are far from being unjustifiably praised, I could write a a whole page praising the concept and the musicianship of those releases.
Why I call those three albums generic is cause they offer the sort of black metal that has been done to death by others as well, adding nothing new to the bm spectrum at all. Yes the riffs are raw and catchy but that doesn't make it any less generic.
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Written by Mikyz on 24.05.2010 at 16:12
it's enjoyable but not groundbreaking.
If you know of any other artists or albums that approach a similar style I'd love to hear them?
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Written by [user id=4365] on 24.05.2010 at 16:27
Written by Mikyz on 24.05.2010 at 16:12
it's enjoyable but not groundbreaking.
If you know of any other artists or albums that approach a similar style I'd love to hear them?
I personally don't know anything similar, this a good album the creepiest one I have ever heard but it's not something I'd like to listen to on a regular basis. In my opinion this is certainly unique but not breathtaking/groundbreaking/earjerking material, it delivers weird landscapes that are far from being repulsive but they're not what I would call replay value material. Unique doesn't necessarily imply masterpiece. All in all this is a solid release, but not as appealing as there other outputs.
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Written by Mikyz on 24.05.2010 at 16:54
Written by [user id=4365] on 24.05.2010 at 16:27
Written by Mikyz on 24.05.2010 at 16:12
it's enjoyable but not groundbreaking.
If you know of any other artists or albums that approach a similar style I'd love to hear them?
I personally don't know anything similar, this a good album the creepiest one I have ever heard but it's not something I'd like to listen to on a regular basis. In my opinion this is certainly unique but not breathtaking/groundbreaking/earjerking material, it delivers weird landscapes that are far from being repulsive but they're not what I would call replay value material. Unique doesn't necessarily imply masterpiece. All in all this is a [u]solid[/i] release, but not as appealing as there other outputs.
You've kinda made my point really: groundbreaking does not equal breathtaking, one is a far more subjective concept than the other. It doesn't have to have mass appeal to be a groundbreaking release (surely the truly groundbreaking music would eschew and alienate musical norms), the fact you know of nothing else like it would qualify as groundbreaking in my eyes, and there's certainly an established fanbase for this album - I'm not saying it's going to revolutionise music but it has etched a particular niche for itself. It's a fairly moot issue really but I think direct comparison to their other releases is nonsensical as most of their other stuff is black metal, MoRT probably isn't. I think Gnaw Their Tongues is probably the closest I've heard but I'd still say it falls into a different subset of music.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 24.05.2010 at 17:34
You've kinda made my point really: groundbreaking does not equal breathtaking, one is a far more subjective concept than the other. It doesn't have to have mass appeal to be a groundbreaking release (surely the truly groundbreaking music would eschew and alienate musical norms), the fact you know of nothing else like it would qualify as groundbreaking in my eyes, and there's certainly an established fanbase for this album - I'm not saying it's going to revolutionise music but it has etched a particular niche for itself. It's a fairly moot issue really but I think direct comparison to their other releases is nonsensical as most of their other stuff is black metal, MoRT probably isn't. I think Gnaw Their Tongues is probably the closest I've heard but I'd still say it falls into a different subset of music.
Agreed.
I think that this album qualifies as Ambient/Industrial Black Metal with touches of Drone Doom, while not sounding similar to any of those specific genres. As a whole ethereal entity it does evoke an overly bleak atmosphere, so it certainly qualifies as Atmospheric Black Metal, but with the addition of the eerie soundscapes and guitar layers the Drone Doom sound doesn't seem foreign at all.
What I forgot to say before was that the album despite all of the feelings it awakens is redundant, so sitting through the whole album is, if you're not in the right mood, a challenge (shortening the album could lessen the yawning). All I'm saying is that is a good album that partially accomplishes what it aims at (for me).
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Filthy, disgusting, horrible record. I adore it.
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Written by [user id=39762] on 23.02.2011 at 01:59
Filthy, disgusting, horrible record. I adore it.
A man after my own heart who appreciates the truly vile things in life.
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09.09.2011 - 04:00Rating: 9
I hope this has a "Procession of Dead Clowns" or "Epitome 2" vibe cause those two songs are what I like most about BaN , I really appreciate their up-tempo BM parts and really love it in some cases but the approach on the former two songs is what keeps pulling me back to this band
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Written by InnerSelf on 09.09.2011 at 04:00
I hope this has a "Procession of Dead Clowns" or "Epitome 2" vibe cause those two songs are what I like most about BaN , I really appreciate their up-tempo BM parts and really love it in some cases but the approach on the former two songs is what keeps pulling me back to this band
If you want the feel and tone of those two songs then I suggest avoiding this record altogether =P The only time you get anything like that is partway through track 5 and that's pretty much the only melody you get on this record. There are also no uptempo parts either.
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09.09.2011 - 18:18Rating: 9
Written by [user id=4365] on 09.09.2011 at 04:42
Written by InnerSelf on 09.09.2011 at 04:00
I hope this has a "Procession of Dead Clowns" or "Epitome 2" vibe cause those two songs are what I like most about BaN , I really appreciate their up-tempo BM parts and really love it in some cases but the approach on the former two songs is what keeps pulling me back to this band
If you want the feel and tone of those two songs then I suggest avoiding this record altogether =P The only time you get anything like that is partway through track 5 and that's pretty much the only melody you get on this record. There are also no uptempo parts either.
Any part of their discography resembles those songs ?
and I'm gonna check it out anyway seems like it is something worth checking judging by your review
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Written by InnerSelf on 09.09.2011 at 18:18
Any part of their discography resembles those songs ?
and I'm gonna check it out anyway seems like it is something worth checking judging by your review
Maybe some stuff on Thematic Emanation of Archetypal Multiplicity, a hugely underrated gem of an EP if you ask me. That aside, not really which is a shame as I love them the most when they do it like that.
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"...one, monolithic cloud of incongruous, alien discordance... ...a systematic deconstruction of human sanity via a philosophically nihilistic array of atonal snaking guitar layers, echoing percussion and the odd ghostly murmur through the ambient static all amounting to a Godless anti-harmony."
That is the most perfect metaphor I've ever seen, and does a better job of describing the way this album sounds than anything I had thought was possible.
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Written by Jaeryd on 27.10.2015 at 23:42
"...one, monolithic cloud of incongruous, alien discordance... ...a systematic deconstruction of human sanity via a philosophically nihilistic array of atonal snaking guitar layers, echoing percussion and the odd ghostly murmur through the ambient static all amounting to a Godless anti-harmony."
That is the most perfect metaphor I've ever seen, and does a better job of describing the way this album sounds than anything I had thought was possible.
Thanks! I have to be honest though; I've often reread that passage and never been sure if it even really makes sense. I think it does. I was probably just in the zone at the time or something. Cheers though!
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28.10.2015 - 01:17Rating: 10
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Any news with his new side project which is supposed to sound like MoRT?
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28.10.2015 - 01:18Rating: 10
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And shame, 9 does not do the justice for this record. One of the easiest 10s I've ever given.
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Written by mz on 28.10.2015 at 01:17
Any news with his new side project which is supposed to sound like MoRT?
Don't think anything new happened, but should appear in due time on the website The Empyrean Lodge (regroups all Vindsval projects). Probably would be the one called "777" as the others have more members.
But it looks kinda dead with no updates for a while, the Codex Obscura Nomina split doesn't even appear with Aevangelist though it got announced a while ago.
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28.10.2015 - 14:36Rating: 10
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Written by Vombatus on 28.10.2015 at 03:26
Don't think anything new happened, but should appear in due time on the website The Empyrean Lodge (regroups all Vindsval projects). Probably would be the one called "777" as the others have more members.
But it looks kinda dead with no updates for a while, the Codex Obscura Nomina split doesn't even appear with Aevangelist though it got announced a while ago.
I'm fairly sure that Ekstasis is the band meant to sound like MoRT. Once I asked their fb and they replied that they have plans for an split. Do not really know what that 777 project is for.
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Metren Dreadrealm
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06.06.2019 - 09:52Rating: 10
One of the best reviews on the site. One of the g.o.a.t. albums too. It sounds better and better with each passing year since more and more formulaic bm (especially in the atmospheric subgenre) gets pumped out all the time.
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Written by Metren on 06.06.2019 at 09:52
One of the best reviews on the site. One of the g.o.a.t. albums too. It sounds better and better with each passing year since more and more formulaic bm (especially in the atmospheric subgenre) gets pumped out all the time.
My grammar was absolutely terrible here though.
I agree though, this album never fails to feel old or irrelevant, and with each new play still blows me away.
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06.06.2019 - 10:39Rating: 10
Written by Mercurial on 06.06.2019 at 10:25
My grammar was absolutely terrible here though.
Haha! I am not a native English speaker, so I couldn't tell. All I know is that Your review was spot-on! Maybe the album is just so good that in order to describe it's non-traditional structure and sound, You needed to abandon traditional English grammar.
Which I guess means that the best review this album could ever have could only be written by Bad English? ...perish the thought!
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Written by Metren on 06.06.2019 at 10:39
Which I guess means that the best review this album could ever have could only be written by Bad English? ...perish the thought!
I think Bad English reviewing the most complex, challenging albums that are really far from his tastes would be a great April Fools thing for the site
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