Merchant of Doom
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Fuck, I hat to wait until two lines before the end of the review to know you were talking about viking metal!
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
16.09.2011 - 18:08Rating: 8
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 18:04
Fuck, I hat to wait until two lines before the end of the review to know you were talking about viking metal!
Band profile -> Einherjer -> Viking Folk metal
They've got quite a name in the scene anyway, they didn't appear yesterday
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Merchant of Doom
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NocturnalStalker Metal Addict
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16.09.2011 - 18:23Rating: 8
I still have to check this album out but from this review it seems I won't be disappointed.
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
16.09.2011 - 18:24Rating: 8
Viking metal is not my finest either, but there are some bands i enjoy a lot, like this one, Windir etc
This could be a cool idea, the genre being somewhere above the review, but one of the reasons a band profile exists is this one, to give a generic information about a band, where they come from, when they started, their discography etc.
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by KwonVerge on 16.09.2011 at 18:24
Viking metal is not my finest either, but there are some bands i enjoy a lot, like this one, Windir etc
This could be a cool idea, the genre being somewhere above the review, but one of the reasons a band profile exists is this one, to give a generic information about a band, where they come from, when they started, their discography etc.
sure, but I click to read the review and then I have to click on the band name to find out who they are if I don't know them. Yes, not very difficult, but a bit annoying and distracting... for example, today, if I clicked on the review and saw it was "Viking Metal", I wouldn't have wasted 5 minutes of my life reading about a genre I don't particularly like... having said that, I didn't even know I could click on the band name to find out who they are... I did enjoy your prose, nevertheless...
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KwonVerge Odysseus ElitePosts: 5068 |
16.09.2011 - 19:25Rating: 8
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 19:10
Written by KwonVerge on 16.09.2011 at 18:24
Viking metal is not my finest either, but there are some bands i enjoy a lot, like this one, Windir etc
This could be a cool idea, the genre being somewhere above the review, but one of the reasons a band profile exists is this one, to give a generic information about a band, where they come from, when they started, their discography etc.
sure, but I click to read the review and then I have to click on the band name to find out who they are if I don't know them. Yes, not very difficult, but a bit annoying and distracting... for example, today, if I clicked on the review and saw it was "Viking Metal", I wouldn't have wasted 5 minutes of my life reading about a genre I don't particularly like... having said that, I didn't even know I could click on the band name to find out who they are... I did enjoy your prose, nevertheless...
But you read the review, mission accomplished Well, after the first paragraph don't tell me you'd expect glam, gothic, doom or anything else but viking metal
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...And the whiskey and wine entered our veins when blood was too weak to carry on.
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I think I need some more spins, but I didn't like that album that much :/ 2 songs are very good, but I find the rest boring.... like a mix between Oden Owns Ye All and Far Far North, but flat, flavorless :/
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 19:10
sure, but I click to read the review and then I have to click on the band name to find out who they are if I don't know them. Yes, not very difficult, but a bit annoying and distracting... for example, today, if I clicked on the review and saw it was "Viking Metal", I wouldn't have wasted 5 minutes of my life reading about a genre I don't particularly like... having said that, I didn't even know I could click on the band name to find out who they are... I did enjoy your prose, nevertheless...
Well, let me tell you that the question "do we put genres on the top of the review" has been made before within the staff circle and pretty much everyone agreed: No. For the same reason you think it should be done: Because we want you to waste 5 minutes on our reviews. They are after all, one of the streghts of this site.
You did like the prose, that's good!
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Carl Berg Carl Berg
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Einherjer used to be one of my favorite bands, Blot was awesome. Gonna add this to my to-do list as soon as I drink this Jack Daniels.
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.09.2011 at 19:40
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 19:10
sure, but I click to read the review and then I have to click on the band name to find out who they are if I don't know them. Yes, not very difficult, but a bit annoying and distracting... for example, today, if I clicked on the review and saw it was "Viking Metal", I wouldn't have wasted 5 minutes of my life reading about a genre I don't particularly like... having said that, I didn't even know I could click on the band name to find out who they are... I did enjoy your prose, nevertheless...
Well, let me tell you that the question "do we put genres on the top of the review" has been made before within the staff circle and pretty much everyone agreed: No. For the same reason you think it should be done: Because we want you to waste 5 minutes on our reviews. They are after all, one of the streghts of this site.
You did like the prose, that's good!
what's the point in spending (note: I didn't say "wasting" this time) on something I don't like? And I will never like, despite DenRozz good prose? The site should be geared towards what the users like/prefer, not towards what you think we prefer. It's a minor problem for me, nevertheless... you manage your site as you deem fit...
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 21:39
The site should be geared towards what the users like/prefer, not towards what you think we prefer. It's a minor problem for me, nevertheless... you manage your site as you deem fit...
I could go with the "fuck the users"-comment but nah, it's just too easy.
This isn't a company or anything that has the main goal of pleasing anybody, the very thought of it is ridiculus to me. The point is that we think is far more interesting for people to check reviews and stay far away from the genre tags, some people (like me) don't really care about it and it would be interesting if the review is intriguing and I end up liking an album from a genre I wouldn't think I might be able to like. It has happened before and it still happens. For people who have some major problems with a certain genre well, sucks to be them, they can check out the profile and that's it. I think it's for the best for people who really want to check out new music regardless of the genre.
Also, sorry if this is offensive but an argument about this issue is completely devoid of meaning since you can just click on the band's profile
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Mindheist No Longer Human
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It's really nice to see Einherjer back on their feet and ready to batter the viking world with scintillating blows from the heart of Norway. Their armors have apparently been hit with rust but their clothes are still blood-soaked and hungry for more frost-bitten battles. I hope it's worth their 8-year hiatus. I was already thinking about giving it a listen but your review was a fun read and your words have convinced me to check it out.
On a separate note:
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 21:39
what's the point in spending (note: I didn't say "wasting" this time) on something I don't like?
I totally respect your opinion but I just would like to say something. I think you're missing out on a lot with this attitude. You seem pretty much into doom, I could give you a couple of releases that are widely known as being folk but if you take the grim, the bouzouki, the djembe and the bagpipe out of the equation, you get a quite enjoyable doom-ish sound. The thing is, folk is arguably the "freest", dare I say it, genre of music out there and especially in our metal world. You could combine it with doom, black or even progressive and it won't become any less "folkish".
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, and that's just a modest advise, don't dismiss a whole genre of music just because you didn't like what you have listened to so far. It doesn't necessarily mean that it sucks but maybe because you picked the wrong albums. Just keep digging, even nu metal and deathgrind have a golden sound creeping to their backbones, but we are simply "too busy" to see it.
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Merchant of Doom
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well, it was only a suggestion... I get the point, but then maybe the review should be more specific. In this case, I had to read the whole lot before I found out what it was. I listened to it and, funnily enough, I didn't like it one bit. You don't want to put tags on music.... fair enough. But everybody does. I suppose I'll have to click on the band name from now on, unless I know the band... on a general note, you seem to assume that all your members should have an encyclopedic knowledge about metal. I don't. You can ask me about 70s prog, though... I like a lot of metal, but I believe that with this attitude (well, fuck the users) you are doing a disservice to the community. But I don't really think you care about that. And I don't think your members care about it either. And you probably shouldn't...
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by Mindheist on 16.09.2011 at 23:16
It's really nice to see Einherjer back on their feet and ready to batter the viking world with scintillating blows from the heart of Norway. Their armors have apparently been hit with rust but their clothes are still blood-soaked and hungry for more frost-bitten battles. I hope it's worth their 8-year hiatus. I was already thinking about giving it a listen but your review was a fun read and your words have convinced me to check it out.
On a separate note:
Written by Merchant of Doom on 16.09.2011 at 21:39
what's the point in spending (note: I didn't say "wasting" this time) on something I don't like?
I totally respect your opinion but I just would like to say something. I think you're missing out on a lot with this attitude. You seem pretty much into doom, I could give you a couple of releases that are widely known as being folk but if you take the grim, the bouzouki, the djembe and the bagpipe out of the equation, you get a quite enjoyable doom-ish sound. The thing is, folk is arguably the "freest", dare I say it, genre of music out there and especially in our metal world. You could combine it with doom, black or even progressive and it won't become any less "folkish".
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, and that's just a modest advise, don't dismiss a whole genre of music just because you didn't like what you have listened to so far. It doesn't necessarily mean that it sucks but maybe because you picked the wrong albums. Just keep digging, even nu metal and deathgrind have a golden sound creeping to their backbones, but we are simply "too busy" to see it.
I'm never too busy to avoid nu metal and deathgrind... I do like folk metal, occasionally, but not Viking... this one was ok - if I have to objective - but I would never listen to it. The point is: I know metal quite well (despite my tongue in cheek statements before) and I know what I like. And I like what I know... sorry, isn't that Genesis?
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 17.09.2011 at 01:10
but I believe that with this attitude (well, fuck the users) you are doing a disservice to the community.
Me thinks you took the "fuck the users" comment seriously.
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Kuroboshi
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17.09.2011 - 03:55Rating: 5
Written by Merchant of Doom on 17.09.2011 at 01:10
You don't want to put tags on music.... fair enough. But everybody does. I suppose I'll have to click on the band name from now on, unless I know the band... on a general note, you seem to assume that all your members should have an encyclopedic knowledge about metal. I don't. You can ask me about 70s prog, though...
In many cases, the tag put on a band is so arbitrary that it can in no way justify the music, so I suggest to read the review, or even better, listen to the music.
If you spend a year or something on this homepage, you'll become pretty cunning about metal. I read practically all the reviews put out by the staff, and sometimes I find some really awesome new band, but mostly I do it for laughs. And in the process, I've learned a lot about metal.
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psychofrench
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17.09.2011 - 06:38Rating: 4
I have given it a couple listens, I find it pretty lazy and quite draggy, far from the dynamism the previous two albums had. Most folk metal so far has been pretty blah except for Arafel, from Israel.
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Merchant of Doom
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I was only asking for something to make my life slightly easier... won't get it, I'll forget it...
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psychofrench
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18.09.2011 - 14:50Rating: 4
Tagging anything "Viking metal" wouldn't help anyways, it's folk first and foremost. "Viking metal" is too reductive (You wouldn't know Amon Amarth is Melodic DM if everyone kept calling them "Viking metal").
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
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Awesome review. I am so excited for this album. I fell in love at Odin Owns Ye All and have never met a band quite like Einherjer So glad they're back.
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At the end of my days"
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Jujitsu-man Ready to ROCK
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10.10.2011 - 03:20Rating: 7
Very far away from the amazing "Blot", in my opinion. But stills a good LP, and it also means that Einherjer are back.
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MétalNoir Fils du Lys
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This topic deserves the Longest Posts MS Award 2011
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Quote: Norrøn may not be their best effort to date - they've composed more beautiful acts - but this is no reason to condemn Einherjer simply because they chose a different mirror of the same prism
Maybe best quote ever said about old bands new directions what still keeps in own style
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