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Metallica with Dave Mustaine.



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Posted by Hermann Langke, 25.10.2009 - 17:54
Metallica are the Holy Grail of Thrash Metal.Now we all know that,once,it also had Dave Mustaine in its ranks.Now I want to know where would have Metallica been now had the volatile but hyper-talented Mustaine still been around with them?

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Where would Metallica be had Dave Mustaine still been a member?

They would have been even greater
80
Can't say
49
They would have gone down
23
They would have stayed the way they are
19

Total votes: 171
12.11.2009 - 17:32
JohnDoe
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Written by Hermann Langke on 12.11.2009 at 17:06

Written by Megadeth88 on 11.11.2009 at 09:32

I'm kind of glad Hetfield kicked Mustaine out. If Mustaine was still with Metallica, then Megadeth wouldn't have formed.

Everybody says the same thing.But I will opine that it would have been the technicality of 'Deth plus the brilliance of Metallica.


What technicality of Megadeth??!! So you daydream Dave never left Metallica, so like everybody keeps repeating - there wouldn't be a Megadeth.

Therefore, I just don't see how this thought (Dave never leaving Metallica) can "keep you warm" or make you happy. I don't get it.
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12.11.2009 - 17:35
Hermann Langke
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Written by Guest on 12.11.2009 at 17:32

Written by Hermann Langke on 12.11.2009 at 17:06

Written by Megadeth88 on 11.11.2009 at 09:32

I'm kind of glad Hetfield kicked Mustaine out. If Mustaine was still with Metallica, then Megadeth wouldn't have formed.

Everybody says the same thing.But I will opine that it would have been the technicality of 'Deth plus the brilliance of Metallica.


What technicality of Megadeth??!! So you daydream Dave never left Metallica, so like everybody keeps repeating - there wouldn't be a Megadeth.

Therefore, I just don't see how this thought (Dave never leaving Metallica) can "keep you warm" or make you happy. I don't get it.

So is 2 better than 1 or the other way round,If you get what I mean?
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12.11.2009 - 17:44
JohnDoe
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So is 2 better than 1 or the other way round,If you get what I mean?


I get your point; I don't get it how this 2 in one idea can make you happy. Like I said before, I don't think it could have been possible, James and Dave are two strong personalities, two big egos, the band would have imploded, this is what happens in such situations.

So let's enjoy reality this time, it works for the better, we've got two really good bands, Metallica and Megadeth, let's enjoy their music (the albums that we like) and have some fun or relax.
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13.11.2009 - 20:41
BloodTears
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Why are still people discussing this? I'm tired of it, to be perfectly honest.
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13.11.2009 - 22:32
K✞ulu
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Written by BloodTears on 13.11.2009 at 20:41

Why are still people discussing this? I'm tired of it, to be perfectly honest.

Exactly. What's the freaking point in speculating how things would go if he stayed. You'd never know anyway. The scenarios are obvious, and debating and proving your opinion in this case is just pointless. Do you all see why?
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13.11.2009 - 22:36
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Tage Westerlund
Written by BloodTears on 13.11.2009 at 20:41

Why are still people discussing this? I'm tired of it, to be perfectly honest.


same here, totaly it makes me mad, it cant heppen, never will hepen and its it
why they dont discuss sex pistol today if Sid be alive
Nirvana today f kurt be alive, what muisc thay play/
Iron Maiden whit Mikeal Stanne on vocals
Deep Purple whit Gerge Corpsgrinder Fisher on vocals and such topics
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14.11.2009 - 10:01
Hermann Langke
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Written by Guest on 12.11.2009 at 17:44


So is 2 better than 1 or the other way round,If you get what I mean?


I get your point; I don't get it how this 2 in one idea can make you happy. Like I said before, I don't think it could have been possible, James and Dave are two strong personalities, two big egos, the band would have imploded, this is what happens in such situations.

So let's enjoy reality this time, it works for the better, we've got two really good bands, Metallica and Megadeth, let's enjoy their music (the albums that we like) and have some fun or relax.

I understand that there would have been an implosion.But they would have rebounded as both of them are Never-say-Die personalities.I see it that way,although there would have been no Megadeth.
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14.11.2009 - 10:03
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by K✞ulu on 13.11.2009 at 22:32

Written by BloodTears on 13.11.2009 at 20:41

Why are still people discussing this? I'm tired of it, to be perfectly honest.

Exactly. What's the freaking point in speculating how things would go if he stayed. You'd never know anyway. The scenarios are obvious, and debating and proving your opinion in this case is just pointless. Do you all see why?

This is one of the great '"What-If's" of Metal.
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14.11.2009 - 10:05
Hermann Langke
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Written by Bad English on 13.11.2009 at 22:36

Written by BloodTears on 13.11.2009 at 20:41

Why are still people discussing this? I'm tired of it, to be perfectly honest.


same here, totaly it makes me mad, it cant heppen, never will hepen and its it
why they dont discuss sex pistol today if Sid be alive
Nirvana today f kurt be alive, what muisc thay play/
Iron Maiden whit Mikeal Stanne on vocals
Deep Purple whit Gerge Corpsgrinder Fisher on vocals and such topics

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.
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14.11.2009 - 10:10
K✞ulu
Seeker of Truth
Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?
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14.11.2009 - 10:14
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by K✞ulu on 14.11.2009 at 10:10

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?

This is fact.People do not talk of George Fisher in Deep Purple or blah-blah.But of Metallica with Mustaine.
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14.11.2009 - 11:54
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Tage Westerlund
Me and my metalheda friends venevr ever talked about such thinks , of core we know he was in band, but talked how its be nowdays, well maybe India is diefernt world then
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14.11.2009 - 21:37
JohnDoe
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Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:14

Written by K✞ulu on 14.11.2009 at 10:10

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?

This is fact.People do not talk of George Fisher in Deep Purple or blah-blah.But of Metallica with Mustaine.


who the fuck is George Fisher? What's he got to do with DP?
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15.11.2009 - 01:55
Introspekrieg
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Written by Guest on 14.11.2009 at 21:37

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:14

Written by K✞ulu on 14.11.2009 at 10:10

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?

This is fact.People do not talk of George Fisher in Deep Purple or blah-blah.But of Metallica with Mustaine.


who the fuck is George Fisher? What's he got to do with DP?


Absolutely nothing... his name shouldn't even be mentioned alongside DP. (The album in your pic is great btw, I love Eloy.)

Back on topic,
Someone else may have died instead of Cliff... maybe one out of the trifecta of assholes (James, Lars, Dave) would have pulled that ace.
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15.11.2009 - 09:58
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by Bad English on 14.11.2009 at 11:54

Me and my metalheda friends venevr ever talked about such thinks , of core we know he was in band, but talked how its be nowdays, well maybe India is diefernt world then

.It is not that way.Metallica is by far the biggest band in India.And I didn't quite get you.
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15.11.2009 - 10:02
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by Guest on 14.11.2009 at 21:37

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:14

Written by K✞ulu on 14.11.2009 at 10:10

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?

This is fact.People do not talk of George Fisher in Deep Purple or blah-blah.But of Metallica with Mustaine.


who the fuck is George Fisher? What's he got to do with DP?

He is the vocalist of Cannibal Corpse.Mr. Bad English was elucidating about various possibilities.
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15.11.2009 - 10:04
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by Introspekrieg on 15.11.2009 at 01:55

Written by Guest on 14.11.2009 at 21:37

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:14

Written by K✞ulu on 14.11.2009 at 10:10

Written by Hermann Langke on 14.11.2009 at 10:05

This is the most speculative topic in all of Metal.

Where did you get that notion?

This is fact.People do not talk of George Fisher in Deep Purple or blah-blah.But of Metallica with Mustaine.


who the fuck is George Fisher? What's he got to do with DP?


Absolutely nothing... his name shouldn't even be mentioned alongside DP. (The album in your pic is great btw, I love Eloy.)

Back on topic,
Someone else may have died instead of Cliff... maybe one out of the trifecta of assholes (James, Lars, Dave) would have pulled that ace.

Why do you hate them?
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18.11.2009 - 09:45
Wakanaboo
They were never meant to be together....

but it would be interesting to see
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18.11.2009 - 09:50
Hermann Langke
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Written by Wakanaboo on 18.11.2009 at 09:45

They were never meant to be together....

but it would be interesting to see

Very interesting.
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18.11.2009 - 11:02
Wakanaboo
Yes, but the fact remains that the ego clashes would have happened either ways,
Mustaine cant take it if he can;t boss people around,

I was reading an interview in rolling stone mag taken right after his gig in bangalore,
he comes off as a person not bothered about people he is working with,
as if he is the CEO and the rest are employees.
If you can't acknwledge borderick as a great guitarist openly, it only shows insecurity,
mustaine's solos suck
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18.11.2009 - 15:51
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by Wakanaboo on 18.11.2009 at 11:02

Yes, but the fact remains that the ego clashes would have happened either ways,
Mustaine cant take it if he can;t boss people around,

I was reading an interview in rolling stone mag taken right after his gig in bangalore,
he comes off as a person not bothered about people he is working with,
as if he is the CEO and the rest are employees.
If you can't acknwledge borderick as a great guitarist openly, it only shows insecurity,
mustaine's solos suck

I can understand.But had there been a break-up they would have certainly rebounded.We all know of their never-say-die attitude.
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18.11.2009 - 17:15
Warman
Erotic Stains
I love it how people are so sure about everything in this "what if"-thread.
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18.11.2009 - 17:22
Overlord_PT
I think that we cant predict it.. so i vote it "cant say"
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21.11.2009 - 05:16
Wakanaboo
Written by Overlord_PT on 18.11.2009 at 17:22

I think that we cant predict it.. so i vote it "cant say"


yus...+666 to that
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21.11.2009 - 05:24
Wakanaboo
Written by Hermann Langke on 18.11.2009 at 15:51


I can understand.But had there been a break-up they would have certainly rebounded.We all know of their never-say-die attitude.


never say die, my foot, what happened with st anger and death magnetic is evidence enough that metallica is dead...
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21.11.2009 - 09:32
Hermann Langke
Brahmastra Corps
Written by Wakanaboo on 21.11.2009 at 05:24

Written by Hermann Langke on 18.11.2009 at 15:51


I can understand.But had there been a break-up they would have certainly rebounded.We all know of their never-say-die attitude.


never say die, my foot, what happened with st anger and death magnetic is evidence enough that metallica is dead...

That's what you feel.They are still alive and kicking.
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21.11.2009 - 15:02
Thrasholico
Uhm about topic maybe if Metallica will stayed with Dave Mustaine for sure they will kill eachother xD is hard to said what really will happend with them....dave mustaine was very adict to drugs and for sure all will be end bad and james and lars and dave fight for the power of the band but really i think was good dave mustaine get fired now Megadeth exist but well xD
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15.12.2009 - 12:11
Wakanaboo
Written by Hermann Langke on 21.11.2009 at 09:32

Written by Wakanaboo on 21.11.2009 at 05:24

Written by Hermann Langke on 18.11.2009 at 15:51


I can understand.But had there been a break-up they would have certainly rebounded.We all know of their never-say-die attitude.


never say die, my foot, what happened with st anger and death magnetic is evidence enough that metallica is dead...

That's what you feel.They are still alive and kicking.


alive and kicking wiht one foot in the grave, i am not really gonna expect anything again from tallica R.I.P.
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16.12.2009 - 03:18
SatyriconChick
I honestly can't say. Who knows what might have happened had Dave been allowed to stay in the band? One thing I do know is that they probably wouldn't have put out a good deal of songs we've gotten out of them if Dave were still there and Kirk had never been with them.
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16.12.2009 - 05:07
Richard
Elite
Written by SatyriconChick on 16.12.2009 at 03:18

I honestly can't say. Who knows what might have happened had Dave been allowed to stay in the band? One thing I do know is that they probably wouldn't have put out a good deal of songs we've gotten out of them if Dave were still there and Kirk had never been with them.


Possibly, but then again who knows how the band would've changed? It's not as if Dave is the 'Metal guy' who wouldn't have ever taken a non-Metal direction, because Megadeth haven't exactly been consistent there either! People's attitudes change over time, and also various different scenarios could've happened even if the original line-up had remained, which could've altered the course of the music...
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