Album artwork by Mnemic's only remaining original member, not that it will have any bearing on the music. I am curious to see how this album is going to sound...

Can't wait for the horde of old fans to say once again how this band died for them.

Please be metal please be metal please be metal

Please be prog deathcore, please be prog deathcore, please be prog deathcore.

The cover looks core, so there"s hope their deathcore phase was just a transition to traditional hardcore.....

I like to still have hope for this band...

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 21:04

Please be prog deathcore, please be prog deathcore, please be prog deathcore.

How about brutal death?

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 21:21


How about brutal death?

Don't like most of brutal death (exceptions exist) and I don't like this band before TUK. Noty.

Actually I can't really say "I don't like" but I don't find it interesting.

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 21:00

Please be metal please be metal please be metal

In case other people missed it, the funny part in this comment is that all their albums are metal. It's funny.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 21:46



In case other people missed it, the funny part in this comment is that all their albums are metal. It's funny.

Prog/Math Metalcore/Deathcore is more hardcore punk than metal because I don't like it, didn't you know?

Trve story.

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 21:47

Prog/Math Metalcore/Deathcore is more hardcore punk than metal because I don't like it, didn't you know?

Trve story.

Everything I don't like is automatically not metal... even though the music is metal... Becase fuck logic!

Cover and song titles hold some promise. Gonna wait to hear a song or two to have a real stance though.

Cover looks boring. song titles... blagh

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 21:50

Becase

I tried to think of some funny comment I could have written stating that you fucked up, but I couldn't think of one, so...


YOU FUCKED UP

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 22:27

YOU FUCKED UP

You are so fucking clever and funny I don't know how you can handle it.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 22:29

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 22:27

YOU FUCKED UP

You are so fucking huge and busty I don't know how you can handle it.

awww, thanks BB.

Anyway, I think this is going to be mediocre.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 22:32
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Nice try to hide the fact you have a little willy, Willy.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 21:50

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 21:47

Prog/Math Metalcore/Deathcore is more hardcore punk than metal because I don't like it, didn't you know?

Trve story.

Everything I don't like is automatically not metal... even though the music is metal... Becase fuck logic!

Sorry captain should have included disclaimer: my idea of metal has no trace of core in it, thanks.

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:16

Sorry captain should have included disclaimer: my idea of metal has no trace of core in it, thanks.

Well, sailor, I can only say that your idea seems hella biased.


and... ARRRRRGH!

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 20:38

Can't wait for the horde of old fans to say once again how this band died for them.

Shut your whore mouth, Roddy. If I hear more Unspoken King garbage, I'm going to bitch and moan as much as I did the first time around.


Seriously, though, I think this band is toast. Either they can put out another shit pile in the vein of The Unspoken King, or they can put out a pandering, forced death metal album to appease pissed off fans. Either way, I have a hard time believing the results will be anything but bad.

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:16


Sorry captain should have included disclaimer: my idea of metal has no trace of core in it, thanks.

So you only like Black Sabbath-era metal?

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:20

So you only like Black Sabbath-era metal?

Nah, just metalcore... although in that case Grindcore isn't metal either (because if someone says that grindcore doesn't have hardcore elements in it... he's obviously deaf).

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:22



Nah, just metalcore... although in that case Grindcore isn't metal either (because if someone says that grindcore doesn't have hardcore elements in it... he's obviously deaf).

Buuuuut, there are traces of -core in pretty much any metal since NWOBHM

Especially in thrash and early black metal.

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:24
Especially in thrash and early black metal.

Punk, not hardcore. There's a big difference there tbh.

Written by Doc G. on 08.06.2012 at 23:19

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 20:38
Can't wait for the horde of old fans to say once again how this band died for them.

Shut your whore mouth, Roddy.

Pffffffffffff... MAKE ME*



* = You have to read this in the voice of Chester Lampwick, unfortunately I can't find the video when he says "make me" to grandpa and they start to fight.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:25


Punk, not hardcore.

Amm, maybe NWOBHM bands got punk influence (not sure if HxC actually was formed back then) but I am pretty sure lots of thrash bands like Slayer played together with hardcore punk bands and took elements from them and then extreme metal as we know it evolved from thrash bands like Slayer.

And early BM had lots of HxC-like values and musical ideas. So hardcore influence is pretty much standard in present day metal and was invaluable to its development.

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:28

Amm, maybe NWOBHM bands got punk influence (not sure if HxC actually was formed back then) but I am pretty sure lots of thrash bands like Slayer played together with hardcore punk bands and took elements from them and then extreme metal as we know it evolved from thrash bands like Slayer.

And early BM had lots of HxC-like values and musical ideas. So hardcore influence is pretty much standard in present day metal and was invaluable to its development.

I'm not that much of a thrash guy but early BM has WAAAAAAY more to do with punk than Hardcore definitely. That should be hella clear by listening to first and second wave.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:29



I'm not that much of a thrash guy but early BM has WAAAAAAY more to do with punk than Hardcore definitely. That should be hella clear by listening to first and second wave.

I doubt "regular" punk was harsh or fargone enough. But eithercase, BM directly evolved from thrash which definitely had huge hardcore influence (I myself am definitely more qualified talking about thrash than really early BM as the only BM I really do like these days is atmospheric which is pretty far from its original incarnation).

But anyways I was just poking fun at his -core phoebia since metal is inadvertedly entangled with hardcore punk since pretty much it's early development.

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:33
I doubt "regular" punk was harsh or fargone enough.

Oh, that's where it comes from! The sound you hear in music like Bathory's debut is clearly punk influenced, not much to do with hardcore.

Also... EVEN if it was hardcore, I'm still as right as you would be considering how hardcore is a subgenre of punk.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:35



Oh, that's where it comes from! The sound you hear in music like Bathory's debut is clearly punk influenced, not much to do with hardcore.

Maybe. Ok I give you that one. But I am definitely right when it comes to thrash!

I am not a huge fan of Bathory really so that kinda eluded me, my main reference point was present-day Darkthrone which was often said to "go back to the roots" or something like that and I definitely get a more hardcore vibe from that. Maybe I am not right there either but I associate way more to hardcore from it.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:35


Also... EVEN if it was hardcore, I'm still as right as you would be considering how hardcore is a subgenre of punk.

Obviously but that's besides the point since my point was that metal as we know it was partially built on hardcore.

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:38

I am not a huge fan of Bathory really so that kinda eluded me, my main reference point was present-day Darkthrone which was often said to "go back to the roots" or something like that and I definitely get a more hardcore vibe from that. Maybe I am not right there either but I associate way more to hardcore from it.

Early darkthrone is also hella punk... in fact... They have always being one of the punky black metal bands. To be honest with you: You are the first one I see who gives so much credit to hardcore when it comes to black metal when everyone else gives it to punk.