Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:22

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:20

So you only like Black Sabbath-era metal?

Nah, just metalcore... although in that case Grindcore isn't metal either (because if someone says that grindcore doesn't have hardcore elements in it... he's obviously deaf).

Fuck you, you unpleasant prick.

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:41

Fuck you, you unpleasant prick.

Aw, c'mon man... You certainly don't mean that.







(Grindcore does have lots to do with -core though, that's why I pointed it out).

Well I'm going to be looking forward to this... curious about the direction it will take...

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:42

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:41

Fuck you, you unpleasant prick.

Aw, c'mon man... You certainly don't mean that.







(Grindcore does have lots to do with -core though, that's why I pointed it out).

Yes and I enjoy grindcore, I mispoke. I suppose I meant scene "core" like the shit that has became popular in the last few yrs. These elements are what gave "the unspoken king" a bad rap in the first place AMIRIGHT??

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 21:46

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 21:00

Please be metal please be metal please be metal

In case other people missed it, the funny part in this comment is that all their albums are metal. It's funny.

+1

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 23:40


Early darkthrone is also hella punk... in fact... They have always being one of the punky black metal bands. To be honest with you: You are the first one I see who gives so much credit to hardcore when it comes to black metal when everyone else gives it to punk.

Truth to be told I am kind of out of my area of expertise here, I always associated the harsh vocals, overall harshness and lack of verse-chorus structures with hardcore more than the punk but that is a genre I know next to nothing about music theory-wise, I can just recognize it from hearing but that means I won't be able to make out subtleties.

I am more familiar with the Sick Of It All-type hardcore which is a bit more, hmm, metallic than hardcore like Black Flag let's say, but I always felt that kind of hardcore (the latter) was very punky and the main difference was the harshness/lack of pleasant melodies, higher pace and throwing traditional rock n roll structures aside.

But even if black metal had less hardcore influences than punk, like I said my original statement about thrash still stands and I am 140% sure and confident of that and BM did come from thrash so...

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:52

Yes and I enjoy grindcore, I mispoke. I suppose I meant scene "core" like the shit that has became popular in the last few yrs. These elements are what gave "the unspoken king" a bad rap in the first place AMIRIGHT??

I see. At some point I actually thougt you were angry at me hahahaha.
Despite how.... ehmmm... "offensive" those bads are to you (and MANY others), they are still metal

Written by Uldreth on 08.06.2012 at 23:56
and I am 140% sure and confident of that and BM did come from thrash so...

Thing is.... Black basically took thrash... and gave it a BIIIIIIG punk injection + dark vibe + classic "shitty" production (this part is actually pretty punk based anyways).

I'm really annoyed by most of core genres, but what annoys the most is the tr00\kvlt\br00tal metalheads who blindly hates core.

If that makes any sense.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 20:38

Can't wait for the horde of old fans to say once again how this band died for them.

... And that horde inevitably invaded this thread in their droves... I'm sooo surprised.

In all seriousness, how is "The Unspoken King" not metal? No matter the arguements against the material, I can't for the life of me see how anyone can seriously say the music on that album isn't metal... the lunatics have left the asylum methinks!

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:52

AMIRIGHT??

No.

Written by [user id=101272] on 09.06.2012 at 00:15

Written by a MasT on 08.06.2012 at 23:52

AMIRIGHT??

No.

Then please enlighten me.

Written by Angelic Storm on 09.06.2012 at 00:13

Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.06.2012 at 20:38

Can't wait for the horde of old fans to say once again how this band died for them.

... And that horde inevitably invaded this thread in their droves... I'm sooo surprised.

In all seriousness, how is "The Unspoken King" not metal? No matter the arguements against the material, I can't for the life of me see how anyone can seriously say the music on that album isn't metal... the lunatics have left the asylum methinks!

............................

Written by a MasT on 09.06.2012 at 00:30

Then please enlighten me.

You mistake popularity (or "scene" music) for lack of talent, as like many other "metalheads" like you do. In reality, The Unspoken King is rated so low simple because it was bad. The "scene" music you're thinking of like Deathcore and Metalcore are still subgenres of metal, no matter how much your thick skull wishes to block out the idea.

And, honestly, dude: Some metalcore/few deathcore > a good amount of grindcore

Written by [user id=101272] on 09.06.2012 at 00:40

Written by a MasT on 09.06.2012 at 00:30

Then please enlighten me.

You mistake popularity (or "scene" music) for lack of talent, as like many other "metalheads" like you do. In reality, The Unspoken King is rated so low simple because it was bad. The "scene" music you're thinking of like Deathcore and Metalcore are still subgenres of metal, no matter how much your thick skull wishes to block out the idea.

And, honestly, dude: Some metalcore/few deathcore > a good amount of grindcore

You're opinion on why the album is bad is just that, an opinion. But I can agree about some cores being subgenres. And sorry for my thick skull, but I think your bad attitude is thinning it out thanks.

Written by a MasT on 09.06.2012 at 00:47

You're opinion on why the album is bad is just that, an opinion. But I can agree about some cores being subgenres. And sorry for my thick skull, but I think your bad attitude is thinning it out thanks.

I'm glad we've come to an agreement.

Written by [user id=101272] on 09.06.2012 at 00:49

Written by a MasT on 09.06.2012 at 00:47

You're opinion on why the album is bad is just that, an opinion. But I can agree about some cores being subgenres. And sorry for my thick skull, but I think your bad attitude is thinning it out thanks.

I'm glad we've come to an agreement.

Hmmm.....album artwork looks like something for a half-baked compilation CD; not an officially new LP.

Still, it's the music that counts. Didn't bother listening to their apparent plane crash of an album from 2008 but hopefully it's a return to form.

Written by TrollandDie on 09.06.2012 at 00:54

Hmmm.....album artwork looks like something for a half-baked compilation CD; not an officially new LP.

Still, it's the music that counts. Didn't bother listening to their apparent plane crash of an album from 2008 but hopefully it's a return to form.

Yes!!!!!

This album is going to be a hundred miles away from The Unspoken King, just you wait...

Hopefully those four years were spent re-learning how to write good music...

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 21:21
How about brutal death?

I'd settle for progressive deathcore if they decide to return to writing good music.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.06.2012 at 02:02

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.06.2012 at 21:21
How about brutal death?

I'd settle for progressive deathcore if they decide to return to writing good music.

Meh, I'm not a big fan of that genre tbh. I didn't like BoO's album at all. But, truth be told, I haven't really heard any others so...

Written by Boxcar Willy on 09.06.2012 at 02:06
I didn't like BoO's album at all.

You hardly like death metal at all, so it's kind of strange that you're even in this thread to be honest.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 09.06.2012 at 02:08

Written by Boxcar Willy on 09.06.2012 at 02:06
I didn't like BoO's album at all.

You hardly like death metal at all, so it's kind of strange that you're even in this thread to be honest.

But, I like Cryptopsy.

And Entombed, and Behemoth, and Aborted, and that's pretty much it.

Pshhh ...

Haha. Y'all make me wanna listen to Johnny Cash tonight.

Looking forward to this. TUK was crap, but they still ripped it live.

Nice artwork. Hope they don't make the mistake they did four years ago...

Cryptopsy's problem is that they've never had a vocalist who wasn't terrible.