Written by Bad English on 14.02.2016 at 13:31

When in theory US tries bomb some country to bring justice and get rid of regime in theory its good, but in practice here we go isis and shit
revolutions must be done from inside, ussr was destroyed from inside, .... and here we go again, patriarch rapsutin metalstomanachus takes over Rus church and spread same evil ... if they comes, and ppl like Le Pen and other WP, extre Christian idiots will rule here as seems it can happen le peb cunt ... we will have same shit , remember where ms server are located and so on ... its not in real west

You went very off-topic with this comment... but whatever. The USSR fell from within, but it was something calculated. If you study its late history, you will come to know that within the CP there were 3 factions. The reformists lead by Gorbachev, a friend of the US, the conservatives led by several generals that were like the Iron Guard of stalinism and the nationalists led by Boris Yeltsin. The last one sought to disband the union since it was no longer economically viable. The Russian Socialist Republic had to cover the expenses of the other Socialist Republics that were virtually bankrupted for a very long time (since the time of Leonid Brezhnev). For years Russia was selling its gold reserves to foreign countries in order to acquire credits to finance these republics.

ISIS is an US creation without any shred of doubt. Their destabilizing actions in Iraq and Syria led to the creation of this dreadful organization. No matter who you want to blame, these two countries were pretty prosperous and safe under their own rulers, dictatorships as they were. Same thing with Libya and Gaddafi. The US upset the balance of that region only to strengthen the postion of their Saudi allies against Iran. And by the way, you say revolutions must come from the inside. Peculiarly, the Islamist Revolution in Iran did come from the inside as the former monarch, the shah was a US puppet. No matter how much we, westerners try to portray Iran as the bad guy, it all comes down to whom the US holds in good graces. Iran is anti-US, thus they are the bad guys.

Written by Bad English on 14.02.2016 at 13:53

We will go of topic here if we continues
I just said, something about illusion ... Abe dude heard voices what told him kill his son... whole word thinks its true, now ppl hear voices what tells kill what so fucking ever, and they get jail time..... Europe idea is church don't say much but ppl as orthox chrstians , true believers and WP as le pen can rion what we have , in EU and so called civiolized world such things never happens, unless hey try burn some building where are cross on top ...in 1th world church is seperetaed from state , it must be in all world. Let sciene rule

The problem with people like you and those that lead us is that they have a very narrow-minded way of thinking. You judge the Middle East through a Westerner's point of view, ignoring the fact that culturally and religiously that region is totally different. Concepts like human rights, democracy and freedom of thought took centuries to develop and to be implemented in Europe, but the main reason they prevailed was because the people embraced them. It was a process that began in the lower classes and eventually changed the ruling classes as well. In the Middle East, these concepts were imposed with force. While in Europe we see them as the epitome of civilization, for them it means foreign military occupation, the swindling of resources by foreign corporations, destabilization and desecration of their own sacred values. We tend to blame them for being so radical, but we forced them to be as such. We robbed them of their countries, of their values, of their dignity and of their culture just because we considered them anachronistic.

No. It must be in the whole world if people wish it to be. Try doing that by force and the people will be even more convinced that it shouldn't be as such. For a Muslim, his religion is more important than anything else. We may not respect this principle, but we must accept it. The longer we deny it or ignore, the longer is gonna take for that region to finally find its peace. When the US will finally loose its influence in the Middle East and stop supporting terrorist states like Israel or Saudi Arabia, then we might speak of peace and stability in that region (alongside with some border modifications as well).

Written by TheMAGAmvm on 14.02.2016 at 15:00

When the US will finally loose its influence in the Middle East and stop supporting terrorist states like Israel or Saudi Arabia, then we might speak of peace and stability in that region (alongside with some border modifications as well).

I'll go horribly off-topic, but since I live in Israel at the moment, remind me exactly how Israel is a terrorist country?; oh, and when you want to call a country "terrorist", don't - you'll be contradicting yourself.

Bablyon crushed Israeli state more than 2000 years ago,then Romans ruled it until 7th century.
After Romans Ottoman Empire ruled until 1922 I think.Upon crumbling of Ottoman Empire came one of
the greatest evil of humanity-British Empire.In that time Zionism is at its heights and the ball passes
to USA,Britsh abandon all interest in Middle East.After WW II and the horrible events that got Jewish people
Israel is born,after more than a 2 millenium ordeal and bloodshed...I would not call Israel a terrorist state...

Written by Kais on 14.02.2016 at 18:00

Written by TheMAGAmvm on 14.02.2016 at 15:00

When the US will finally loose its influence in the Middle East and stop supporting terrorist states like Israel or Saudi Arabia, then we might speak of peace and stability in that region (alongside with some border modifications as well).

I'll go horribly off-topic, but since I live in Israel at the moment, remind me exactly how Israel is a terrorist country?; oh, and when you want to call a country "terrorist", don't - you'll be contradicting yourself.

Well, when I will stop seeing Palestinians being oppressed every day, persecuted and their number dwindling year after year, maybe I will lift the terrorist-state affirmation. Before that, to me Israel seems more like a combination between Nazi Germany and South Africa during the Apartheid days. Not to mention that it is one of the main reasons why the Middle East is unstable. It serves as a bridge top for the US to exercise its influence across the Levant. Do you consider it a coincidence that most of the countries that were against Israel such as Syria, Iraq (during the leadership of Saddam Hussein), Iran or Libya were destabilized or were the subjects of economic sanctions?

Nothing against Israeli citizens. I believe most of them are kind, benevolent people. But you have to do something about your political system. While the US will take your side, nothing will happen to your country, but as you can see, its influence is starting to diminish. Sure, you guys are far away from the dreadfulness of Saudi Arabia. But that does not excuse the decades long persecution of the Palestinians.

Written by bblitz on 14.02.2016 at 18:47

Bablyon crushed Israeli state more than 2000 years ago,then Romans ruled it until 7th century.
After Romans Ottoman Empire ruled until 1922 I think.Upon crumbling of Ottoman Empire came one of
the greatest evil of humanity-British Empire.In that time Zionism is at its heights and the ball passes
to USA,Britsh abandon all interest in Middle East.After WW II and the horrible events that got Jewish people
Israel is born,after more than a 2 millenium ordeal and bloodshed...I would not call Israel a terrorist state...

So, their unfortunate situation after WW2 is an excuse to create a Holocaust for the Palestinians as well, just because jews were once victims of other nations? This affirmation is what most of the political correct marxist thinkers teach today. If black people used to be branded as slaves and were oppressed once upon a time, they are excused when they do the same thing to white people. Because the first were victims and the second were perpetrators once upon a time.

And for Israel to be born, millions of Palestinians were evicted from their houses and forced to seek refuge in other countries. Only in neighboring countries such as Jordan, Syria or Lebanon there are as many Palestinians as there are in the West Bank and Gaza Strip combined.

The logic that they lived here 2000 years ago thus the land belongs to them is also very idiotic. How would it be for everyone to just move back to wherever they were 2000 years ago and kick the current inhabitants out just because a said land belonged to them once upon a time? There is no justification for the bad deeds done against Palestinians. For years whoever brought the situation into discussion, he/she was accused of anti-semitism. This label always used to end all debates, but not anymore.

Oh yea. I quite missed these kinds of quote trains

Wow that's truly awful. Amazing to think that merely playing music can get one gaoled or executed in some parts of the world.



The above quotes are ridiculous - not sure how state of Israel, Marxism and ISIS have anything to do with a bunch of heavy metal musicians being arrested in Iran.

Written by Spirit of dead on 15.02.2016 at 00:06

Wow that's truly awful. Amazing to think that merely playing music can get one gaoled or executed in some parts of the world.



The above quotes are ridiculous - not sure how state of Israel, Marxism and ISIS have anything to do with a bunch of heavy metal musicians being arrested in Iran.

Blame Bad English for that. I would've kept it to myself if not for his comments.

Stay on target.

Hopefully Kahtmayan don't meet this fate.

Oh it's the price we gotta pay
And all the games we gotta play
Makes me wonder if it's worth it to carry on
Cause it's a game we gotta lose
Though it's a life we gotta choose
And the price is our own lives until it's done

It's time to support Iranian bands, in Iran it's really hard and dangerous to held a concert or release an album or even walk on the streets with metal band logos printed shirt.
I hope metalstorm shows its support to Iranian bands, pays more attention on their albums with more reviews and adding more Iranian bands.
Not just posting one news about them.
With this much trouble and difficulties to playing and practicing metal music in Iran, we are still continuing it. There are so many talented musicians and bands in Iran.
Metalstorm please pay more attention about underground metal music in Iran.

Written by .:Nataras:. on 15.02.2016 at 10:03

It's time to support Iranian bands, in Iran it's really hard and dangerous to held a concert or release an album or even walk on the streets with metal band logos printed shirt.
I hope metalstorm shows its support to Iranian bands, pays more attention on their albums with more reviews and adding more Iranian bands.
Not just posting one news about them.
With this much trouble and difficulties to playing and practicing metal music in Iran, we are still continuing it. There are so many talented musicians and bands in Iran.
Metalstorm please pay more attention about underground metal music in Iran.

I agree partially with what you say, but the bands from Iran need to realize their position and keep their identities a secret as much as possible. The system in that country ain't gonna change over night, just like that, unless the Ayatollah decides to step down from being the highest authority in the country. During communism, in my country you had to take some measures of protection if you wanted to be a rock or metal band. Usually that meant as little exposure as possible.

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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 15.02.2016 at 12:11

I agree partially with what you say, but the bands from Iran need to realize their position and keep their identities a secret as much as possible. The system in that country ain't gonna change over night, just like that, unless the Ayatollah decides to step down from being the highest authority in the country. During communism, in my country you had to take some measures of protection if you wanted to be a rock or metal band. Usually that meant as little exposure as possible.

Yes I agree with you, we should hide our real identity... some years ago, that was not this much dangerous, I mean they took me once and also they took some bands and people in a concert, their punishment was not as bad as this time, i mean that was not execution, they put us in jail for 1 day or two and/or sending to court and force us to pay money and while insulting us and beating us. but this time is different, execution is highest punishment! definitely we should take care more than before.

Hopefully these guys get off with a minimum sentence. It's a shame. To the rest of the tin foil hat crowd in this thread...you are embarrassing.