Fear Factory - In Legal Battle Over Name
According to an interview conducted by Speed Freaks with Fear Factory members Christian Olde Wolbers (guitar) and Raymond Herrera (drums), they claim that Dino Cazares and Burt C. Bell reformed as "Fear Factory" without even communicating with them.
The part of the interview goes as follows:
Raymond: We're actually still in Fear Factory. There's a big legal battle going on right now. Essentially, what's happened is Dino and Burt have become friends again and they decided to start a new band, and furthermore, they decided to call it Fear Factory. They never communicated with us about it, and they're acting like there was never any contract, but there's four members that are Fear Factory Incorporated - which is the four of us - so it's almost like them two against us two, so it's kind of a stalemate. Moving forward, I don't know what's gonna happen with the trademark, so to speak. It's kind of a weird situation, but it's not a situation that we created that was weird.
The interview can be found at this location.
The part of the interview goes as follows:
Raymond: We're actually still in Fear Factory. There's a big legal battle going on right now. Essentially, what's happened is Dino and Burt have become friends again and they decided to start a new band, and furthermore, they decided to call it Fear Factory. They never communicated with us about it, and they're acting like there was never any contract, but there's four members that are Fear Factory Incorporated - which is the four of us - so it's almost like them two against us two, so it's kind of a stalemate. Moving forward, I don't know what's gonna happen with the trademark, so to speak. It's kind of a weird situation, but it's not a situation that we created that was weird.
The interview can be found at this location.
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| Uirapuru Liver Failure Posts: 2955  |
Instead of doing this shit they should be working on new material.
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| Baz Anderson Staff Posts: 13254  |
Oh dear. It did seem a little weird Christian and Raymond mysteriously disappearing from the band. Fear Factory wouldn't be the same without them.
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| Darkside Momo Retired Elite Posts: 9089  |
I was sure something like this would happen. This year is good for dramas, let's see what the others will answer!
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| Baz Anderson Staff Posts: 13254 |
I'm actually wondering which Fear Factory is going to be playing Bloodstock. They'd better not have to cancel because of all this.
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| Hamird Lieutenant Posts: 2564  |
Written by Baz Anderson on 17.06.2009 at 14:28 Yes, I think these two are more important to Fear Factory that Bell and Cazares. After all, the line-up in Archetype and Transgression is the best Fear Factory in my opinion.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
My god and the whining between ex-band members once again starts.
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| AdiabsA Posts: 12  |
I think that the name is from the formers members and thats it!, it they want to do other band with like the same name.. just with changing one letter will be ok like.. Fear Factori (example) lol
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071 |
Written by brapp32 on 17.06.2009 at 16:05 Christian only joined when they had already released a well received debut album and had already played a packed Dynamo Open Air so he should swallow his tongue. Only person with any right to complain is Raymond imo.
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Christian and Raymond already created their own band (Arkaea). They have done even more - they have stolen to their project most of songs, which were in plans on upcoming Fear Factory album. Damn, I am begining to dislike them 
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15287  |
Negura Factory Seedd-Oroth. Of Fire.
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| Dane Train Beers & Kilts Elite Posts: 8902  |
Fear Factory Incorporated? Really? I thought they were a band, not an industry.
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| Eddie Misery Posts: 96  |
Written by Hamird on 17.06.2009 at 14:45 How do you figure the lineup on Archetype and Transgression is better than the previous albums? Bell has always been in the band. All that changed was Christian dropped the bass and took up the guitar when Dino left, and Byron Stroud took up the bass. Christian did a hell of a job, but Dino is still a great riffer as well. My personal favorite album, Obsolete, was written with Dino still on guitars, so I was excited to see that he was coming back. It sucks that there's all this drama surrounding it though. They should just resume the old lineup. Also, Archetype was a kickass album. Transgression....not so much.
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| Eddie Misery Posts: 96 |
BTW -- there are many bands that "incorporate" themselves, for legal / business / contract reasons etc. It's actually pretty common.
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15287 |
Written by Symmachus on 17.06.2009 at 23:29 thanks. i'm going to start my one man ambient black metal project with that name. then i'm going to split up and sue myself in homage to Negura Bunget, Fear Factory, Stratovarius, Black Sabbath, Gorgoroth, God Seed, Rhapsody of Fire, and the very subtly included Middian who were sued by the failuremetal band Midian. i figure that's a more amusing (and less painful way) of mocking these ludicrous lawsuits and battles than doing the Slayerfan thing and carving all their names on my forearm and lighting it on fire.
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| Hamird Lieutenant Posts: 2564 |
Written by Eddie Misery on 17.06.2009 at 22:26 I didn't say that those albums are the best Fear Factory have done (although I believe that Archetype is); by saying line-up on those two albums was best I meant the line-up after reuniting included Stroud, Bell, Herrera and Olde-Wolbers.. My personal opinion is that Stroud does better than Olde-Wolbers on bass and Olde-Wolbers does better than Cazares on guitars. In addition I personally don't like songs that Cazares has made as much as what has been done in his absence.
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15287 |
Written by Symmachus on 18.06.2009 at 00:45 this:  action sequence
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| Symmachus Posts: 2002 |
Written by BitterCOld on 18.06.2009 at 01:12 Haha, that's messed up. Totally messed up.
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| LeChron James Helvetesfossen Posts: 3561  |
That video was raw as fuck. and dick move on dino and burton's part for reforming without the other band members' knowledge.
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| Eddie Misery Posts: 96 |
Yea, I agree that they should have at least told the other guys...kinda shifty.
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| Daggon Underpaid M.D. Posts: 1689  |
Ah, another suggestion for the Drama of the year hehe
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| Thrash del Sur Posts: 95  |
I like the Gene H style but I rather Raymond with FF but I think we lost a big oportunity to see FF with two guitars because the stupidity and greed of this guys.
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