Who do you think is the leading band of these metal genres
Black Metal
Death Metal
Grindcore
Technical Death Metal
Doom Metal
Progressive Metal
Thrash Metal
My choices are Mayhem(black metal) Death(Death metal) Carcass(Grindcore), Suffocation(Technical Death Metal) Eternal Tears of Sorrow(Doom metal) Opeth(progressive metal) Overkill( thrash metal)

Darkthrone (black metal)
Mantas (death metal) [no, I'm not gonna say Death, deal with it, though this is a pretty impossible question anyway]
Repulsion (grindcore)
Atheist (technical death metal)
Candlemass (doom metal) [I could always say Saint Vitus, Trouble, Pentagram, Cathedral or whatever, but I went with them in the end...]
Queensryche (progressive metal) [I don't listen to prog much, but I could always say screw it and go with King Crimson or Yes]
Cannot be decided (thrash metal)

Written by JohnWayneGacy666 on 07.09.2010 at 05:25

Who do you think is the leading band of these metal genres
Black Metal
Death Metal
Grindcore
Technical Death Metal
Doom Metal
Progressive Metal
Thrash Metal
My choices are Mayhem(black metal) Death(Death metal) Carcass(Grindcore), Suffocation(Technical Death Metal) Eternal Tears of Sorrow(Doom metal) Opeth(progressive metal) Overkill( thrash metal)

Where is Heavy Metal ?! Also I should say in this case there are many polls in the saparete topics in Metal Arena.

Assuming that by leading band you mean favourite bands, my list would look like this

Black Metal - Drudkh
My favourite black metal album would not be Drudkh's, but overall as a band, they're my absolute best. Atmosphere is simply matchless

Death Metal - Vader
No real competition here, Vader is my among my 5 favourite bands, and among very few death metal bands that remember that songs are supposed to be songs, not attempts at brutality.

Grindcore - Carcass
Grindcore is the least interesting genre in metal, and I almost never listen to it. So there is only one band possible.

Technical Death Metal - Atheist
Tech death is usually extremely boring and more artsy farsy than prog, because usually it's quite pointless - 90% of the bands complicate their music for the sake of complicating. Songs stop being songs and become exercises in technicality. There are exceptions like Atheist, hence my pick.

Doom Metal - Skepticism
It was a choice between them and Candlemass. Admittedly, my favourite doom album is by Shape of Despair, but their discography isn't as impressinve as Skepticism's.

Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Clear choice here. Dream Theater isn't without faults, like every single prog band. They suffer from overblown musician egos, which lead to endless instrumental passages which rarely serve the purpose in a song, and more often are just there to showcase technical prowess. Still, DT make the most interesting music.

Thrash Metal - Slayer
My favourite band since 1988, no need to explain more. THE thrash band of all time, with "Reign in Blood", the best metal album ever, under their belts.

I think he meant which you think are the driving forces in the genres, but I guess that'd suffice (I personally listed driving forces and originators).

I don't get the big deal about Carcass. The only pure grindcore album they have is their debut, which although good, can't match up to Symphonies of Sickness.

Another impossible to choose list. How do you differentiate between Candlemass and Wormphlegm? Too many sub-variants in styles these days.

Written by vezzy on 07.09.2010 at 14:48

I don't get the big deal about Carcass. The only pure grindcore album they have is their debut, which although good, can't match up to Symphonies of Sickness.

Exactly. It's also one of the VERY FEW grindcore albums that are listenble. All the rest is pure shit.

Are you mad?

Since when disliking grindcore is indicative of a mental illness?
It's an extremely boring, repetitive and generic genre with lyrical and graphical themes that can only be liked by people with mental disorders.

Don't take it so seriously. Only partly.

So, being a fan of horror and gore films makes you screwed in the head? Sure, there's the "disgusting" porno-goregrind (I hate those classifications, but whatever) but it's listenable.

Written by vezzy on 07.09.2010 at 14:48

I think he meant which you think are the driving forces in the genres...

I sincerely doubt that cause why mention Eternal Tears Of Sorrow for doom metal in that case?

Btw why did he mention EToS as doom anyway? They have never had anything to do with doom metal whatsoever.

Leading bands, its not possible say and ebsides doom has many subgenres so this tread is uncomplite and kmowing member muisc taste all overated bands gonna win anyway and why tec death, where is all doom subgenres , also HM missing

Written by vezzy on 07.09.2010 at 15:37

Don't take it so seriously. Only partly.

So, being a fan of horror and gore films makes you screwed in the head? Sure, there's the "disgusting" porno-goregrind (I hate those classifications, but whatever) but it's listenable.

Torsofuck has an album called "Erotic Diarrhea Fantasy" with a song on it that is called "Fistfucking her Decomposed Cadaver". I don't care how "excellent" their "music" is. I will never touch their music even with a 10 foot pole while wearing welding gloves.

There's limit to everything, even to licentia poetica. Grindcore usually goes beyond that limit.

If you like such stuff, it's your problem, but I would advise seeking professional medical advice if you can look at / read / listen to such shit without disgust.

Written by Daniell on 07.09.2010 at 15:17

Written by vezzy on 07.09.2010 at 14:48

I don't get the big deal about Carcass. The only pure grindcore album they have is their debut, which although good, can't match up to Symphonies of Sickness.

Exactly. It's also one of the VERY FEW grindcore albums that are listenble. All the rest is pure shit.

I know I bleat on about them a lot but you should consider trying !T.O.O.H.!'s Rad a Trest album if you haven't already; It's widely considered to be grindcore but goes against pretty much all conventions of the genre. In fact it sounds like nothing else I've ever heard. It's non-abrasive (though the vocals may take some getting used to) and generally very listenable.

Written by Daniell on 07.09.2010 at 16:07
Torsofuck has an album called "Erotic Diarrhea Fantasy" with a song on it that is called "Fistfucking her Decomposed Cadaver". I don't care how "excellent" their "music" is. I will never touch their music even with a 10 foot pole while wearing welding gloves.

There's limit to everything, even to licentia poetica. Grindcore usually goes beyond that limit.

If you like such stuff, it's your problem, but I would advise seeking professional medical advice if you can look at / read / listen to such shit without disgust.

Is it really that troubling to be desensitized to such things?

That is such a narrowminded way of thinking. Then it's impossible to enjoy a book such as American Psycho or gross horror flicks purely for entertainment value as well this. The sort of mindset you advocate here reminds me a lot how the Catholic church and other religious groups try to impose their worldview on other people. There's nothing wrong with enjoying that subject material without showing any signs of disgust. Imo itKs even healthy.

Guys, it's only my opinion, it's not the end of the world
You have every right to disagree and ignore me

Of course I disagree, else I wouldn't have replied ;-) But ignore you becuase of your faulty opinion? Never

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.09.2010 at 16:15

The sort of mindset you advocate here reminds me a lot how the Catholic church and other religious groups try to impose their worldview on other people.

Actually I'm an atheist.

Besides, the really good grind is usually political and not of the gore variant.

Black Metal - Emperor
Death Metal - Carcass (Purely for Necroticism: Descanting The Insalubrious which is my fave death metal album of all time. Although even on this album, a small amount of their early grind influences remained. xD)
Grindcore - Napalm Death (or early Carcass)
Technical Death Metal - Death (later albums of course)
Doom Metal - Cathedral
Progressive Metal - Symphony X
Thrash Metal - Overkill

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 07.09.2010 at 18:20

Besides, the really good grind is usually political and not of the gore variant.

Pretty much agreed. The main selling point in gore/porno grind is the lyrics and imagery. There are a small amount of good goregrind bands who manage to stand out from the crowd, but in the main, its a genre filled with generic and identikit sounding bands.

The only pure grindcore Napalm Death did was their first two albums. Rest is mixed in or just plain is death metal. And to be honest, I'm not a big fan of From Enslavement to Obliteration.

And I am still wondering why the OP named Eternal Tears Of Sorrow for Doom Metal. Just based on the name? Must be cause like I said musically it has nothing to do with Doom whasoever.

Meh, Napalm have ALWAYS been grind. Sure, from "Harmony Corruption" onwards, they did add some death metal to their sound, but the grind element has always been there in all their albums. Even on "Diatribes", which was their lightest album. (but was also great) And "Utopia Banished" is a very punishing, unrelenting album which in parts is pure grind. They also pretty much invented the genre.

Nah, Harmony Corruption was pure death. The closest they got to grindcore again was in Utopia Banished, Order of the Leech and Smear Campaign, from what I recall. I'm not counting LNF Pt. 2 because that was a cover album.

ND were only pure grindcore on their first two then they went on to play death metal, and a mediocre one at that, cause they saw it sold well. Only on their last couple of albums have they incorporated some grindcore into their standard generic death metal again. At least now they play better music once again. But all in all ND's death metal period and the entire band get more praise than they should.

I'll lay off the Napalm Death - Death metal era hate, as "Harmony Corruption" was my first DM album and what got me into the genre.

as for the topic, too generic and open for interpretation. the genres we are discussing are decades old. what qualifies as a leader? what someone did "then" or who is leading now? i'll guess "then" based upon your pick of Death...

Black Metal - Darkthrone - pretty much 1st release of second wave. prolific output compared to the other Norwegian vanguard.

Death Metal - Morbid Angel - not the first DM act, but one who kicked it up a notch and left the other bands in their wake, playing catch-up.

Grindcore - Napalm Death - lots of stuff was going around, but they were the ones who, thanks to Peel, put it on a map.

Doom Metal - Candlemass - with EDM and Nightfall, they started slowing it down at a time when everyone was speeding it up. tons of subgenres have spawned, each with their own leaders... but as an overview of the genre, Candlemass seems fairly obvious.

Thrash Metal - Slayer - not first, not the biggest, but still huge - and huge without softening their approach. Metallica is easily more influential outside, but within metal extremes, Slayer are more influential. if i wanted to introduce a newbie to the genre, with magical tickets to see any thrash band, i'd want my noob friend to have their baptism of fire at a Slayer gig... that would be the best way to see what the thrash movement was/is.

Black Metal - Cradle Of Filth/Dimmu Borgir (tie)
Death Metal - Job for a Cowboy
Grindcore - Anal Cunt
Technical Death Metal - Cannibal Corpse
Doom Metal - Eternal Tears Of Sorrow
Progressive Metal - Christopher Lee's Charlemagne
Thrash Metal - Trivium
Folk Metal - Amon Amarth

Written by Introspekrieg on 07.09.2010 at 22:43

Black Metal - Cradle Of Filth/Dimmu Borgir (tie)
Death Metal - Job for a Cowboy
Grindcore - Anal Cunt
Technical Death Metal - Cannibal Corpse
Doom Metal - Eternal Tears Of Sorrow
Progressive Metal - Christopher Lee's Charlemagne
Thrash Metal - Trivium
Folk Metal - Amon Amarth

*poser police siren*

What have we got here? Are you like, resisting persecution?