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01.04.2011 - 04:18
Yasmine
But no really, I did this once before on the Kamelot forums. We all just pitch in and write a song.

As many people who want to write the music, record, write lyrics, etc etc feel free to post imput. All criticism and ideas welcome. Also if you're a new to your instrument this is going to be a great way to learn some basic song writing tips/tricks. So feel free to ask questions about the process. As for software, I have GP5 still, but I believe the gp6 will open those files. Anyone who can't do this though can post simply riffs and ideas in text, I'll certainly take the time to read them.

The very first thing we'll have to do is decide what genre, or genres we want to attempt. This may however be decided by the singers/musicians we have. No power metal vocalist = no power metal. lol

So any ideas? I'll check back soon, if not I'll just start up a riff.

BTW 4 minute songs, or 10 minute epic, whichever I'm good with it. lol
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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01.04.2011 - 04:41
whatsacow
C |---------------------------|
G |---------------------------|
Eb|---------------------------| x3
Bb|---------------------------|
F |--7---------8---7----------|
C |-----6p5-----------6p5---|

Then end of riff:
C |-------------------------|
G |-------------------------|
Eb|-------------------------|
Bb|--8-7-5-----------------|
F |----------8-7-5----------|
C |------------------6p5----|
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01.04.2011 - 04:51
Yasmine
Ok so I'm playing that riff a little on the slow side and it sound to me a like a bridge riff, something to be played when a fast riff when double bass end, then another intense section maybe.
BTW I use 7 strings, so any tuning is good.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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01.04.2011 - 05:02
whatsacow
Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 04:51

Ok so I'm playing that riff a little on the slow side and it sound to me a like a bridge riff, something to be played when a fast riff when double bass end, then another intense section maybe.
BTW I use 7 strings, so any tuning is good.

When I play it, it's a faster, sort of tech-death thing, similar to athiest or something similar. Although playing it slower might work.
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When God made up the golden rule, do you think he noticed that it condones rape?
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01.04.2011 - 05:03
Yasmine
Written by whatsacow on 01.04.2011 at 05:02

Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 04:51

Ok so I'm playing that riff a little on the slow side and it sound to me a like a bridge riff, something to be played when a fast riff when double bass end, then another intense section maybe.
BTW I use 7 strings, so any tuning is good.

When I play it, it's a faster, sort of tech-death thing, similar to athiest or something similar. Although playing it slower might work.

No I actually thought of that, like the intro to piece of time. That's how I'm playing it now, now it can intro, bridge or interlude, so we'll keep that riff cause at faster speed it's definitly useable.

Might not be a bad harmony riff either.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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01.04.2011 - 05:08
whatsacow
Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 05:03

Written by whatsacow on 01.04.2011 at 05:02

Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 04:51

Ok so I'm playing that riff a little on the slow side and it sound to me a like a bridge riff, something to be played when a fast riff when double bass end, then another intense section maybe.
BTW I use 7 strings, so any tuning is good.

When I play it, it's a faster, sort of tech-death thing, similar to athiest or something similar. Although playing it slower might work.

No I actually thought of that, like the intro to piece of time. That's how I'm playing it now, now it can intro, bridge or interlude, so we'll keep that riff cause at faster speed it's definitly useable.

Yeah! That song exactly. Well... Completely different rythm and playing style.
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01.04.2011 - 05:16
Yasmine
Here is something I've been working out for a heavier part

E
b
G
D
A------------------------------------------------7h8p7h8--------------------------------|
E--------------8--7--8--5------------6h8p6h8-----------5h6p5h6----------------------|
B--55555555-6--5--6--3--5h6p5p6-------------------------------6h8p6h8-5h6p5h6-|

Also we can play this 4-8 times with the last 2-4 having a dual harmony on the hammer-on parts.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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01.04.2011 - 05:29
whatsacow
Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 05:16

Here is something I've been working out for a heavier part

E
b
G
D
A------------------------------------------------7h8p7h8--------------------------------|
E--------------8--7--8--5------------6h8p6h8-----------5h6p5h6----------------------|
B--55555555-6--5--6--3--5h6p5p6-------------------------------6h8p6h8-5h6p5h6-|

Also we can play this 4-8 times with the last 2-4 having a dual harmony on the hammer-on parts.

Damn you and your seven string guitar!
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01.04.2011 - 05:35
Yasmine
Written by whatsacow on 01.04.2011 at 05:29

Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 05:16

Here is something I've been working out for a heavier part

E
b
G
D
A------------------------------------------------7h8p7h8--------------------------------|
E--------------8--7--8--5------------6h8p6h8-----------5h6p5h6----------------------|
B--55555555-6--5--6--3--5h6p5p6-------------------------------6h8p6h8-5h6p5h6-|

Also we can play this 4-8 times with the last 2-4 having a dual harmony on the hammer-on parts.

Damn you and your seven string guitar!

Well I have it standard tuning so you can play it as the lowest note is E there. However what timing were you using on your riff?
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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01.04.2011 - 08:13
whatsacow
Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 05:35

Written by whatsacow on 01.04.2011 at 05:29

Written by Yasmine on 01.04.2011 at 05:16

Here is something I've been working out for a heavier part

E
b
G
D
A------------------------------------------------7h8p7h8--------------------------------|
E--------------8--7--8--5------------6h8p6h8-----------5h6p5h6----------------------|
B--55555555-6--5--6--3--5h6p5p6-------------------------------6h8p6h8-5h6p5h6-|

Also we can play this 4-8 times with the last 2-4 having a dual harmony on the hammer-on parts.

Damn you and your seven string guitar!

Well I have it standard tuning so you can play it as the lowest note is E there. However what timing were you using on your riff?

They'r all eighth notes I think. The time signature (not entirely sure about this) I think is 7/8 for the first part of the riff, then 4/4 for the last phrase.
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01.04.2011 - 08:30
Void_Eater
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How about write a 10 minute breakdown? I can't imagine a worse song. It would also need cowbell.
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01.04.2011 - 11:48
whatsacow
Written by [user id=111774] on 01.04.2011 at 08:30

How about write a 10 minute breakdown? I can't imagine a worse song. It would also need cowbell.

Sorry, but I think Job for a Cowboy copyrighted that technique.
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01.04.2011 - 15:37
Yasmine
Written by [user id=111774] on 01.04.2011 at 08:30

How about write a 10 minute breakdown? I can't imagine a worse song. It would also need cowbell.

Cow beat me to that, lol.

If you have any ideas Mr.Void let us know!

My riff is also 7/8 timing, so this is working well, however I think we should use my riff to lead to a solo, or as an intense riff after a solo or chorus.

Okay so your riff is the into now, Followed by.....4/4, all 8ths.....

e
b
G
F-
A-----8-6-8--------|-----8-9-8-------|
E---6--------9-8-6-|---6-------6-8-9-|
B-7-----------------|-7----------------| X2 Followed by a very short intro solo which I will post in a few.

But now comes the fun part, the main riff!
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"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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02.04.2011 - 01:46
Yasmine
Intro solo 4/4 all 16ths.

e-----------------------------121112114-------|-1411---------------------------------111411-|
b----------101110-----1110-------------1311-|------13---------------------------13----------|
G-101110--------1311-------------------------|---------13---------------------13-------------|
D------------------------------------------------|------------14---------------14----------------|
A------------------------------------------------|---------------13---------13-------------------|
E------------------------------------------------|------------------13---13----------------------|
B------------------------------------------------|---------------------13-------------------------|

So you're riff as the intro riff, mine is riff 1 played twice then this solo. The first riff I put in the thread will probably be used much later in the song. Riff 1 will be where the 2nd guitar enters playing the riff in A#. Currently both the intro riff and this riff are played twice, but we can debate upping it.

A-----8-6-8--------|-----8-9-8-------|
E---6--------9-8-6-|---6-------6-8-9-|
B-7-----------------|-7----------------|
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"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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02.04.2011 - 05:17
Void_Eater
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I have no idea what's going on, so I'm just gonna post this riff I made up years ago and see what anybody here thinks of it.

-7-5------8-5----9--------7-5---------------------------------
------7-5------7----5-7-5-----7-5-----------------------------

A and E strings, standard tuning(duh)

Every note is an eighth note except for the 9, which is a quarter note. What time signature this would be, I'm to lazy to find out.
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02.04.2011 - 05:34
Yasmine
Written by [user id=111774] on 02.04.2011 at 05:17

I have no idea what's going on, so I'm just gonna post this riff I made up years ago and see what anybody here thinks of it.

-7-5------8-5----9--------7-5---------------------------------
------7-5------7----5-7-5-----7-5-----------------------------

A and E strings, standard tuning(duh)

Every note is an eighth note except for the 9, which is a quarter note. What time signature this would be, I'm to lazy to find out.

We're writing a song together, post any riff you'd like us to use, right now it's shaping up to be in the thrash/death style. Write us some new riffs, or post anything you have and eventually this will get recorded.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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02.04.2011 - 05:44
Yasmine
Update on voids riff, I removed the last note and played it after Riff 2, so it's intro, riff 1, solo, then we need a verse, chorus, and then riff2 and Void's riff, which is riff 3. Void's riff sounds quite good after this one.

A------------------------------------------------7h8p7h8--------------------------------|
E--------------8--7--8--5------------6h8p6h8-----------5h6p5h6----------------------|
B--55555555-6--5--6--3--5h6p5p6-------------------------------6h8p6h8-5h6p5h6-|

I may have a verse riff, I will write 3-4 riffs for the verse riff, unless someone else has a solid verse riff to carry the song, if not I will post all 4 and we can pick which one we like/works best.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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02.04.2011 - 08:27
Void_Eater
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I now present two riffs which I just wrote about 10 minutes aqgo while fucking around on my guitar.

Bottom 3 strings

----------------3-----------------------
-------5--------3-----5--------8-7---------------
--000-3-000----000-3-000--6-5----------------


Bottom 4 strings
-222222444222555----2---1-----------------------------
--------------------------3---3-------
---------------------------------------
----------------------000--0-----------

I tuned it all down a half step, just because, not needed of course. These have both probably been used by various band's, various times, over various years.

And what do you mean sounds quite good, "After this one"? You sayin my riffs suck? Offensive... Kidding of course, modify at will.
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02.04.2011 - 08:47
Yasmine
Written by [user id=111774] on 02.04.2011 at 08:27

I now present two riffs which I just wrote about 10 minutes aqgo while fucking around on my guitar.

Bottom 3 strings

----------------3-----------------------
-------5--------3-----5--------8-7---------------
--000-3-000----000-3-000--6-5----------------


Bottom 4 strings
-222222444222555----2---1-----------------------------
--------------------------3---3-------
---------------------------------------
----------------------000--0-----------

I tuned it all down a half step, just because, not needed of course. These have both probably been used by various band's, various times, over various years.

And what do you mean sounds quite good, "After this one"? You sayin my riffs suck? Offensive... Kidding of course, modify at will.

HAHA, I only removed the last note to fit in 7/8th timing to keep the flow going after my riff.

2nd riff there we can use.......actually tinkering with that riff a little and vary it over several bars, maybe change the chords each time? That way we can play it many times, that might make a good chorus riff.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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02.04.2011 - 09:19
Void_Eater
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Go ahead and do what you want with them, I've never actually written a song before, so this may be a good learning experience for me.
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02.04.2011 - 16:08
Yasmine
Alright no problem, I'll work them out later tonight.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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03.04.2011 - 22:29
Yasmine
Update, I'm currently morphing Void's 3rd riff into the chorus riff.

e-
b-
G-
D-222555222444------2----------------1-|
A------------------------2------5~PH----1-|
E------------------------3----------------2-|
B------------------0000-----0--------0----|
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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04.04.2011 - 10:01
whatsacow
What key are we in?
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04.04.2011 - 12:28
Yasmine
Written by whatsacow on 04.04.2011 at 10:01

What key are we in?

All of this will be done in the tuning you used, C
Right now it's in B, but I will convert it all to C eventually. I might tune my Jackson Warrior to C.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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05.04.2011 - 03:51
ANGEL REAPER
Oh...this will never work.....
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"Cross is only an iron,hope is just an illusion,freedom is nothing but a name..."
"Build your walls of the dead stone...Build your roofs of a dead wood..Build your dreams of a dead thoughts"
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05.04.2011 - 06:05
Yasmine
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.04.2011 at 03:51

Oh...this will never work.....

Done it before, it worked out. The only problem here is I have all this crap in GP, it's all worked out fine and all, plus we're helping Void learn. But no one to do the drums = dead end.
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"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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05.04.2011 - 14:36
ANGEL REAPER
Written by Yasmine on 05.04.2011 at 06:05

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 05.04.2011 at 03:51

Oh...this will never work.....

Done it before, it worked out. The only problem here is I have all this crap in GP, it's all worked out fine and all, plus we're helping Void learn. But no one to do the drums = dead end.

dont ask me all my drumming in band is done by drum machine...
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"Cross is only an iron,hope is just an illusion,freedom is nothing but a name..."
"Build your walls of the dead stone...Build your roofs of a dead wood..Build your dreams of a dead thoughts"
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05.04.2011 - 15:47
Guitar pro please ? I play keyboards and I can program drums and do harsh vocals in addition to mixing work, If you want me to write or try messing around please someone write those in GP
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05.04.2011 - 17:44
Yasmine
Written by The Night Wisher on 05.04.2011 at 15:47

Guitar pro please ? I play keyboards and I can program drums and do harsh vocals in addition to mixing work, If you want me to write or try messing around please someone write those in GP

Alrighty! I'll post it here tonight, I only have gp5, but you can open it with 5 or 6 and make changes.
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"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
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05.04.2011 - 21:18
Luneth
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Can I be the songwriter?
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