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I've yet to come across a power metal album I enjoy, but your review intrigued me. I'll check out a song or two on Youtube when I have the time tonight and see what's up.
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07.12.2011 - 01:30Rating: 8
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 01:25
I've yet to come across a power metal album I enjoy, but your review intrigued me. I'll check out a song or two on Youtube when I have the time tonight and see what's up.
A lot of people seem to adore it. And it is awesome, though I doubt you'd like it. What power metal have you heard so far anyway?
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07.12.2011 - 01:32Rating: 9
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Yay I'm so glad you reviewed this!! Excellent review. It's one of my top albums of the year. 2nd best power metal release after Shadowside.
You're so right about the "prog atmosphere" that comes and goes here. I hadn't even thought of it that way but that is probably a huge part of what sets them apart. And yes, the licks and riffs are something special and the band isn't afraid to mix in melody and/or heaviness when appropriate. Power metal bands should really listen to this album and remind themselves how it's done.
Seriously, this album saved power metal for me this year. It was the first really wonderful disc I heard after a year of so much mediocrity; few are living up to it!
"but I sometimes wonder where has all the denim and leather gone." you are a wonderful human being
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 01:30 A lot of people seem to adore it. And it is awesome, though I doubt you'd like it. What power metal have you heard so far anyway?
This year? None. Satan's Host is probably the closest I got to power metal. :/
But I remember listening to Blind Guardian's early works, checked out Jag Panzer's back catalog after receiving the SH request (didn't realize Jag had a new album out), some early Iced Earth... Not a fan by any means based on what I heard, but I can understand what people like about it.
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07.12.2011 - 01:33Rating: 9
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 01:30
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 01:25
I've yet to come across a power metal album I enjoy, but your review intrigued me. I'll check out a song or two on Youtube when I have the time tonight and see what's up.
A lot of people seem to adore it. And it is awesome, though I doubt you'd like it. What power metal have you heard so far anyway?
Yeah, Troy. *I* staff picked it so of course you should listen
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Written by Susan on 07.12.2011 at 01:33 Yeah, Troy. *I* staff picked it so of course you should listen
Consider my interest demolished piqued.
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
07.12.2011 - 01:36Rating: 9
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Right.. since our tastes are soooo damn similar.
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07.12.2011 - 01:37Rating: 8
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 01:33
This year? None. Satan's Host is probably the closest I got to power metal. :/
But I remember listening to Blind Guardian's early works, checked out Jag Panzer's back catalog after receiving the SH request (didn't realize Jag had a new album out), some early Iced Earth... Not a fan by any means based on what I heard, but I can understand what people like about it.
Kamelot (2000-2005 for pure power and some symph) and Lost Horizon are probably the best power metal bands ever... if you don't get into those, you can pretty much quit trying as long as I'm concerned, though I've heard a great big number of pm bands before I found SOME I like. Sonata Arctica is my favorite, but I know you'd dislike 'em.
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 01:37 Kamelot (2000-2005 for pure power and some symph) and Lost Horizon are probably the best power metal bands ever...
Well I won't check them out before this album, because if what you say is true and I listen to those then by comparison this will be garbage.
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07.12.2011 - 01:42Rating: 8
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Written by Susan on 07.12.2011 at 01:32
You're so right about the "prog atmosphere" that comes and goes here. I hadn't even thought of it that way but that is probably a huge part of what sets them apart.
At some moments I feel transported to 90's DT, as if someone grabbed me and shoved me into it. Then I'm back. Pretty weird shit, not by any means unoriginal or an homage but they just achieve that atmosphere sometimes.
Disclaimer: If anyone would like to try this but hates DT, don't worry, you probably won't notice or be bothered by this! It fits pretty neatly.
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 01:41
Well I won't check them out before this album, because if what you say is true and I listen to those then by comparison this will be garbage.
A couple of months after first hearing Lost Horizon, I couldn't bring myself to hear another power metal album... never has so much cheese been justified with so much awesomeness and powahhhhh! And the best power metal vocalist ever is there ofc (if we only talk of voice, Roy Khan and Tony Kakko come in front of him for charisma and not being douches).
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07.12.2011 - 01:55Rating: 8
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Wow... what an exciting review!
even though I have heard the album already and liked it a lot. (Definitely my power metal album of choice for the year for now)
then again, I disagree about Lost Horizon being that good... but that's off topic already =P
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07.12.2011 - 02:16Rating: 8
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Written by Ag Fox on 07.12.2011 at 01:55
then again, I disagree about Lost Horizon being that good... but that's off topic already =P
Lost Horizon's music IS empowering in it's core - you listen to their absurd lyrics while you actually feel that way. I get that it's not your cup of tea, but it wasn't mine either, believe me.
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07.12.2011 - 02:19Rating: 8
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I seldom pay attention to lyrics, perhaps that's why lol
vocals is just another instrument to me most times
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Good review, but I wish they would go back to their more progressive roots... Celestial Entrance is their masterpiece IMO.
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07.12.2011 - 10:04Rating: 8
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Written by PowerThrash on 07.12.2011 at 05:56
Good review, but I wish they would go back to their more progressive roots... Celestial Entrance is their masterpiece IMO.
Well there's a bunch of awesome prog albums this year, so maybe you should focus on those instead
Written by Ag Fox on 07.12.2011 at 02:19
I seldom pay attention to lyrics, perhaps that's why lol
vocals is just another instrument to me most times
If it's "just an instrument", that makes you the first person I've heard of that isn't utterly impressed by Daniel Heiman's singing hats off sir, you're a unique snowflake, as I so often am... For I can't figure out what's so good about Hansi and Kai and that bunch of people at all.
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I preferred them when they exhibited their proggy side... the new one is "heavy metal" for kids...
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07.12.2011 - 12:58Rating: 8
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 12:18
I preferred them when they exhibited their proggy side... the new one is "heavy metal" for kids...
Again, there's a lot of prog releases this year to satisfy your kicks nicely. And as you may see, there are quite a few "adult" metalheads who adore this release, so probably you've just listened to one too many albums that didn't suit your taste.
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 12:58
Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 12:18
I preferred them when they exhibited their proggy side... the new one is "heavy metal" for kids...
Again, there's a lot of prog releases this year to satisfy your kicks nicely. And as you may see, there are quite a few "adult" metalheads who adore this release, so probably you've just listened to one too many albums that didn't suit your taste.
yes, I know, taste... it's a bit of a tired argument, though. We are not talking about extreme metal releases which might, or might not, suite some tastes, we are talking about a very simple form of metal, which - to me - is the equivalent of listening to Britney Spears...
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:06
yes, I know, taste... it's a bit of a tired argument, though. We are not talking about extreme metal releases which might, or might not, suite some tastes, we are talking about a very simple form of metal, which - to me - is the equivalent of listening to Britney Spears...
Britney Spears' first two album are great so watch yer tongue, heathen.
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:06
yes, I know, taste... it's a bit of a tired argument, though. We are not talking about extreme metal releases which might, or might not, suite some tastes, we are talking about a very simple form of metal, which - to me - is the equivalent of listening to Britney Spears...
Britney Spears' first two album are great so watch yer tongue, heathen.
nah, always been a Madonna fan, me!
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:17
nah, always been a Madonna fan, me!
She had a good few songs here and there...
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07.12.2011 - 13:34Rating: 8
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:06
We are not talking about extreme metal releases which might, or might not, suite some tastes, we are talking about a very simple form of metal, which - to me - is the equivalent of listening to Britney Spears...
Actually, there's quite a lot of people who have "outgrown" these simple types of metal and who are bored by them. Maybe this is a sign you are as well, who knows
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 13:34
Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:06
We are not talking about extreme metal releases which might, or might not, suite some tastes, we are talking about a very simple form of metal, which - to me - is the equivalent of listening to Britney Spears...
Actually, there's quite a lot of people who have "outgrown" these simple types of metal and who are bored by them. Maybe this is a sign you are as well, who knows
yes, I'm sure, and what does that tell you?
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07.12.2011 - 13:49Rating: 8
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 13:43
yes, I'm sure, and what does that tell you?
It tells me that you should probably stop listening to releases like these and leave 'em to us who still haven't gotten tired of basic metal, perhaps?
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A very good review and nice to see it finally reviewed officially. I remember the first time I listened to it; my first thought was "that album title is spot on". My favourite power metal album this year for sure and the best album from Pagan's Mind that I've listened to so far.
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07.12.2011 - 14:49Rating: 8
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 07.12.2011 at 14:35
no, it should tell you that the reason why people have stopped listening to this type of basic metal is because it's not very good...
I didn't say all people stopped listening to "heavy metal for kids".It might be "under" you, but there's a lot of us who like to keep in touch with the roots, in order not to forget what brought us all here. I get it, people get bored of certain things, but this is something that should unite at least most of us.
Unlike a lot of kids in my generation, who got into metal through Nightwish-Evanescence-HIM/Korn-Slipknot, I got introduced to metal starting slowly from classic rock to Dio's Sabbath and Maiden. Yes, I do listen to a lot of "serious" stuff now, but I wouldn't disrespect heavy metal, calling it a "genre for kids", nor would I disrespect good power metal that is SO rare to find these days.
We should cherish the good releases that don't come from bleak, doomy, proggy or extreme realms instead of bashing them, because they come rare and far apart.
As we clearly disagree, we should end this discussion for it will lead nowhere
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Good review, and you really should check out some of their other stuff. I personally felt that Heavenly Ecstasy was a step down from God's Equation, but your review was very honest. Great job!
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Written by Milena on 07.12.2011 at 14:49
As we clearly disagree, we should end this discussion for it will lead nowhere
we agree on this...
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08.12.2011 - 01:05Rating: 8
Written by PowerThrash on 07.12.2011 at 05:56
Good review, but I wish they would go back to their more progressive roots... Celestial Entrance is their masterpiece IMO.
This says it all. I enjoyed the production value to the album, but to me was a bit watered down from previous releases and needed a jolt of coffee. Prog < Power Metal? I guess we'll have to wait and see how the band takes the new direction moving forward.
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