The Unholy Trinity: Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride
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Poll
The most significant pioneer of gothic doom metal is...
Paradise Lost
38
My Dying Bride
12
Anathema
7
Total votes: 57
ravendeath |
28.01.2012 - 00:19
In the late 80's and early 90's there was something special in the air in the UK and those three bands were born and provided us with sounds that were latter categorized as Doom Gothic etc. metal. Now they have taken different approaches to music, defining new styles and survived all those years and remained on the top of popularity among the lovers of darker sound of metal music. Vote for your favourite band and if you can explain why...
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
28.01.2012 - 02:35
Well 1th MDB winns , they stayed on roots Anathema betraided death/doom and still playing nowdays crappy pop musiv what is totaly borin, even I liked Gracefallen EP werry much, leither step by step bordness come I do live Paradise Lost 1th 5 albums , but thet disco crap pop shit era .... no thank's and even last 2 albujs is beck to roots and I like those I cant forget how band chamged MDB stayed all those times in same style, what I like now seems they go down, but well as far if I shood choose MDB because thay stayed but musicaly in death/doom era PL onmly PL I love those albums , but MDB is equal but somehow PL is closer to my heart maybe because I discovere it 1th , and it cant be unholy trinityt nowdays it was maybe those days
---- I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens. Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die" I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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JohnDoe Account deleted |
28.01.2012 - 02:42 JohnDoe
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^ I respect Anathema and Paradise Lost more than MDB; MDB found a recipe for success and stuck with it, hardly ever experimenting. At least Anathema and PL experimented, risked. I can't vote, hard to choose between Anathema and PL.
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ravendeath |
28.01.2012 - 02:49 Quote: I agree with that. I gave this title because their tour in 2008 was named like that...
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
28.01.2012 - 12:53 Written by Bad English on 28.01.2012 at 02:35 No they didn't.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
28.01.2012 - 13:11 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.01.2012 at 12:53 last albums was week, specely last one but still band is more closer to roots and stayed more longer how those others I can enjoy all albums , but I can not PL and Anathema
---- I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens. Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die" I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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Slayerus23 Account deleted |
29.01.2012 - 14:52 Slayerus23
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My favourite one from the unholy trinity is Anathema, but My Dying Bride developed the doom as we know it. So at least it was and still is the most significant of those three.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
29.01.2012 - 15:40 Written by [user id=17278] on 28.01.2012 at 02:42 While MDB didn't experiment that much... they did change a lot with time. You just have to compare albums like their debut to The Angel And The Dark River or Like Gods of the Sun to Songs Of Darkness, Words Of Light. They changed their style qute a lot but always were in the death/doom camp. Not to mention 34.788%... Complete which was definitely an experiment.
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JohnDoe Account deleted |
29.01.2012 - 15:46 JohnDoe
Account deleted Written by X-Ray Rod on 29.01.2012 at 15:40 34.788%... is their only experiment, that's true (hence my "hardly ever")
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
29.01.2012 - 15:52 Written by [user id=17278] on 29.01.2012 at 15:46 It's still wrong to say that they stuck with a recipe if they always kept changing the tone of their albums. The only difference I see between them and the other bands is that they tried to stick to a genre, but each album still has a lot of difference from the other ones. Still a hard poll tbh. To me it's only fair to compare them with what they have done in the doom metal department, otherwise it feels kind of wrong to me. Anathema would be out considering that while I realy like their second and third albums I never really liked their debut, while MDB and PL had a really consistent beginning and were way more impressive to me with their debuts and the later couples of releases. Difficult one, for me... Can't really decide between PL or MDB but I would probably vote for PL.
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@gent_-_orange |
29.01.2012 - 16:35
The only real fair comparison point for all three bands would be the early careers, Paradise lost turned more into Gothic rock and Anathema developed a different sound as well as MDB, So I am going to judge this based on the earlier output and choose Paradise lost, As I feel that their Debut album is the best album of the three's earlier output, With MDB's Debut a close second. All three bands have released good albums mind, Lost Paradise just so happens to be a personal favourite of mine.
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Angelic Storm Melodious |
30.01.2012 - 04:44
All 3 band's earlier material is great, so it's a very hard choice for me. There's just something about Anathema's first two albums that I think slightly edges it in their favour for me. They were beautiful albums, but also crushingly heavy, which was a contrast which totally stunned me at the time I first heard them...
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BloodTears ANA-thema Elite |
30.01.2012 - 19:02
When was Anathema gothic? I'm just wondering. Doom, sure but gothic I don't see it.
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JohnDoe Account deleted |
30.01.2012 - 19:32 JohnDoe
Account deleted Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2012 at 19:02 the roots of gothic metal are in doom so in the early days of gothic metal, the lines between the two genres were quite blurred, so...
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Angelic Storm Melodious |
30.01.2012 - 19:41
Anathema had gothic elements in the first two albums, but some might not be able to hear that amongst the immense heaviness of the doom. The first song I ever heard by Anathema "Lovelorn Rhapsody" is a perfect example of gothic doom. There is a dark, ethereal beauty there, but also very heavy riffing. @JohnDoe: That pic of your kitty on your laptop is adorable!
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
31.01.2012 - 10:29
Gothic elements well even maybe gothic has inspirated band (I dont know) but and even there is gothic elements they were werry week, it was death/doom metal
---- I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens. Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die" I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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porcupinetheater Posts: 2 |
22.04.2012 - 10:54
While Anathema remains my favorite, I chose MDB, as I believe they have had the longest influence on the doom scene, maintaining a largely consistent discog (with only one notable exception...you know which one I'm talking about), whereas Paradise Lost dropped out of my favor for awhile before In Requiem got them back on track. And Anathema really only had a couple doom releases, so I wouldn't really say their influence is quite as far reaching, even if I adore everything they've touched in their career.
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Pennywise Account deleted |
25.04.2012 - 20:12 Pennywise
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I have listened not that much from these bands, but was extremly impressed by Anathemas Alernative 4 and their accoustic album. My Dying Bridge is a close second choice since they are very heavy for Doom.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
25.04.2012 - 21:09 Written by [user id=34558] on 25.04.2012 at 20:12 Dibs on that band name.
---- "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
26.04.2012 - 11:29 Written by [user id=17278] on 30.01.2012 at 19:32 Even if we go on that road it's still wrong. Your comment can only suggest that old gothic metal sounds like doom, not that doom sounds like old gothic metal. There's a difference there considering who was first
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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Dàibh |
26.04.2012 - 13:49
*Scratches chin* This is a really touch call for me. It would be perhaps easier to say whom from the list is my personal favorite...but it's a different thing entirely to say whom from the list has been most significant in pioneering said sound...
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
26.04.2012 - 13:54 Written by [user id=17278] on 30.01.2012 at 19:32 wrong the roots of gothic metal are in gothic rock (bands such as The Children, The Southern Deathcult, Sisters Of Mercy) which had quite strong bonds with punk.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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Branzig |
26.04.2012 - 15:29 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.04.2012 at 13:54 Which is why gothic rock is so much better than gothic metal But the only band I like in this poll is Paradise Lost...So I won't vote because I am extremely biased on this one. But if I was going to vote it would be Paradise Lost.
---- In Grind We Crust
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Unhealer Eclecticist |
27.04.2012 - 20:23
I believe My Dying Bride since they played with it longer than the other two bands who walked other musical paths. Even if nowadays they are just a pale shade of their past.
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JohnDoe Account deleted |
28.04.2012 - 03:40 JohnDoe
Account deleted Quote:Quote:Quote: I was trying to say that old gothic metal sounds like doom. I guess I have been wrong for a long time; I'm no expert in neither gothic metal nor doom metal, but I've always thought doom metal was the start for gothic metal. I admit I don't know much about 80s gothic rock.
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Polaria |
28.04.2012 - 22:26
Hello, I can say I am aveteran fan of Gothic Metal, as I have been listening to it since 1995 and it is my favorite genre in metal. Remembering the year 1995, in my opinion the sound of Gothic Metal was defined by 5 bands: Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride, Anathema, Theatre of Tragedy and the Gathering. Note they all released an excellent album in that year. I voted for Paradise Lost because they are the band from the five above that made the biggest breakthrough in 1995, from what I remember.
---- Life is all the pain we endeavour.
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Fritillaria Account deleted |
28.04.2012 - 22:38 Fritillaria
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What ?! gothic doom ? I'm so doubtful about considering early Anathema a Gothic Doom band
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X-Ray Rod Skandino Staff |
29.04.2012 - 19:02 Written by Polaria on 28.04.2012 at 22:26 Hello! Well, I can see how all those bands had their gothic on their music. Some more than others of course but out of those five I don't consider that Anathema played gothic influenced metal at all. Specially not in 1995 with The Silent Enigma which is just death/doom.
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Polaria |
29.04.2012 - 20:41
Hello, The term "Gothic Metal" was not used in that time. The five bands were then seen as "some kind of death and/or doom" and not as pioneers of a new subgenre.
---- Life is all the pain we endeavour.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
29.04.2012 - 20:53 Written by Polaria on 29.04.2012 at 20:41 the term gothic metal was used in 1995 already. I sure as hell can remember people using it back then. And The Gathering were only seen as death doom during their first album and certainly not anymore with Mandylion and such.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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