JOPE OF STEELE Steelemeister
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Dick move
No Lombardo = No Slayer.
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csiga Munin
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Fuck this shit...
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Zap
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I'd hoped they'd at least get Lombardo back after Jeff's death. That way I wouldn't mind them to keep on touring without making new music. Now it's just... meh... I don't care anymore for Slayer.
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Athropos Burning inside
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I don't like to see Lombardo being replaced by Bostaph, but Bostaph is a good drummer. So many people are grumbling but they'll still go to the gigs if they can...
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Wiillak
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I don't fucking care for this band nevermore
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Sean 79
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What is with the hate for Paul. Seen slayer countless times with him and Dave. Never been a shit show. Sure they have different styles but listen to God Hates Us All and Testament's The Formation of Damnation, and tell me he's a shit drummer. Plus he's been in slayer nearly as long as dave.
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Wiillak
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Written by Sean 79 on 31.05.2013 at 14:19
What is with the hate for Paul. Seen slayer countless times with him and Dave. Never been a shit show. Sure they have different styles but listen to God Hates Us All and Testament's The Formation of Damnation, and tell me he's a shit drummer. Plus he's been in slayer nearly as long as dave.
Just listen how this shit played " Disciple" on the album and how Dave Played in Shows.that's really enough to comparison
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Sean 79
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Written by Wiillak on 31.05.2013 at 14:29
Written by Sean 79 on 31.05.2013 at 14:19
What is with the hate for Paul. Seen slayer countless times with him and Dave. Never been a shit show. Sure they have different styles but listen to God Hates Us All and Testament's The Formation of Damnation, and tell me he's a shit drummer. Plus he's been in slayer nearly as long as dave.
Just listen how this shit played " Disciple" on the album and how Dave Played in Shows.that's really enough to comparison
Like i said, different styles! I never came away from a Slayer show thinking "That sucked"
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5923 |
At least they had the common decency to get Paul Bostaph rather than anyone else, but there is still no excuse for kicking out Dave. It's not entirely half-Slayer now, since Paul was previously in the band, but it's still only five-eighths Slayer.
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Sean 79
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 31.05.2013 at 14:41
At least they had the common decency to get Paul Bostaph rather than anyone else, but there is still no excuse for kicking out Dave. It's not entirely half-Slayer now, since Paul was previously in the band, but it's still only five-eighths Slayer.
That's a silly statement too. Just look at some your favourite bands and see how many of them have more than half their original line up. Did they turn to shit once members left?
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5923 |
Written by Sean 79 on 31.05.2013 at 14:55
Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 31.05.2013 at 14:41
At least they had the common decency to get Paul Bostaph rather than anyone else, but there is still no excuse for kicking out Dave. It's not entirely half-Slayer now, since Paul was previously in the band, but it's still only five-eighths Slayer.
That's a silly statement too. Just look at some your favourite bands and see how many of them have more than half their original line up. Did they turn to shit once members left?
I know that it is not uncommon for bands to replace members, but very few bands are as successful at Slayer in maintaining a mostly stable lineup for such a large part of their career, and that makes it more significant when they do change. With some bands I don't mind when they replace members, or I at least understand, but I don't think there is much room to move in this case. Especially coming so hot on the heels of Jeff's death, it seems like the band is just falling apart now. Even though they have replaced Dave before, it is clear that he is the best and most essential drummer they ever had, and all this drama seems pointless. As it happens, aside from "God Hates Us All," Slayer's non-Lombardo material was definitely subpar.
I will say that it is entirely up to the band (which, at this point, seems to constitute Tom and Kerry) whether or not they want to continue. I don't think this "No Jeff, no Dave, no Slayer" business is entirely fair because, as you say, bands go on without original members all the time. However, even if it is their prerogative to carry on the band with whatever lineup they want, it still won't be as good as it was with Jeff and Dave.
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Sean 79
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 31.05.2013 at 15:19
I know that it is not uncommon for bands to replace members, but very few bands are as successful at Slayer in maintaining a mostly stable lineup for such a large part of their career, and that makes it more significant when they do change. With some bands I don't mind when they replace members, or I at least understand, but I don't think there is much room to move in this case. Especially coming so hot on the heels of Jeff's death, it seems like the band is just falling apart now. Even though they have replaced Dave before, it is clear that he is the best and most essential drummer they ever had, and all this drama seems pointless. As it happens, aside from "God Hates Us All," Slayer's non-Lombardo material was definitely subpar.
I will say that it is entirely up to the band (which, at this point, seems to constitute Tom and Kerry) whether or not they want to continue. I don't think this "No Jeff, no Dave, no Slayer" business is entirely fair because, as you say, bands go on without original members all the time. However, even if it is their prerogative to carry on the band with whatever lineup they want, it still won't be as good as it was with Jeff and Dave.
Good post. Don't agree apart from Slayer's non-Lombardo material was definitely subpar (which is hardly down to Bostaph). Nice to get a decent response than the usual knuckle dragging "BOSTAPH SUCKS"
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Sangre Sani
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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This is really just starting to get ridiculous, in my opinion. Why even continue at this point? It's not as if Slayer haven't done a lot of great work already. (Most of) their discography is legendary, they have fans the world over, and are widely regarded as one of the most important bands in the history of metal. They've replaced their original drummer after just getting him back a few years ago, one of their founding guitarists just died, and they're still going on? To me at this point it kinda just seems like beating a dead horse. If anything, they should just wrap up this tour and then call it quits. It'd be a much better decision than continuing with new material, and I bet the majority of their fanbase would respect them more for doing so.
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Tenski
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All hail the mighty Slayer...
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qlacs "The Quaker"
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This is pure bullshit. After reuniting with Lombardo, now Sayler loses two of its original members. God please save Slayer... if you listen to it
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a MasT
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chrisʇrenounced
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Bostaph is a great drummer and does appear on one of Slayer's best albums (God Hates us All), but I don't see how they'll be able to carry on long term without Jeff. I predict that they'll hang it up after fulfilling the upcoming tour dates.
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moe5512
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Written by sentenced on 31.05.2013 at 18:53
Slayer without lombardo and hanneman ?
i cant even image
Probably pretty much the same...
C'mon people, it's not like the live shows will be any different, they play the same shit as before and same vocals. I have no doubt that any replacements can learn what their predecessors have played.
If they make a new album it will probably be mainly King and Araya that compose it.
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Vombatus Potorro
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He did play during 10 years before, and it's not like Slayer changed a lot since.
No big deal.
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Nemo Atkins
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I normally don't like to comment on Slayer stuff (not usually interested in Slayer these days), but this is a seriously poor decision by whoever made it. Jeff dies and, less than a month later, Dave is completely removed from the band? Not exactly an encouraging message to send to the fans who probably wanted Dave to stay (and, let's be honest, that's probably most of Slayer's fanbase).
Although I will admit I do approve of Bostaph replacing Lombard since he is the only other drummer Slayer have had. Doesn't mean I have to like it, but it's better that someone with some connection to the band is chosen over anyone else.
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belphegor666
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My wishes are granted....Paul eventually returned....I can't understand why people are blaming Paul...Bostaph is a super excellent drummer.... Hail Slayer
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
Yes, apparently Lombardo wasn't even informed of this decision. He says he found out online which is always good...
They don't even mention his name once on their statement either.
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animal71
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Yeah Paul has come home to Slayer. So be it.
The big fuckin question we are all gonna have to answer, who is gonna be the long term full-time replacement for the late Jeff Hanneman???????
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bblitz
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Paul Bostaph is an amazing drummer.Surgical precision and strength are
best weapons in his arsenal.
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Mattybu
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Fuck this shit man, it's the weirdest shit seeing this band fall apart and Bostaph is just like "I'm coming home", fuck disband already.
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Maco Pvt Funderground
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Mmm well i like his work with 90's slayer and forbidden. Is a good replacement for dave, but what about jeff's replacement?
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sbgmetal
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Yes! Paul is back! if him n gary were to make an album with tom and king I think it b the shit n exactly the breath of fresh air slayer needs
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