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Trivium - What The Dead Men Say



7.8 | 251 votes |
Release date: 24 April 2020
Style: Alternative metal, Thrash metal

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01. IX
02. What The Dead Men Say
03. Catastrophist
04. Amongst The Shadows And The Stones
05. Bleed Into Me
06. The Defiant
07. Sickness Unto You
08. Scattering The Ashes
09. Bending The Arc To Fear
10. The Ones We Leave Behind

Staff review by
musclassia
Rating:
7.3
The Sin And The Sentence got Trivium back on track after the misfire that was Silence In The Snow. What The Dead Men Say doesn't derail the Trivium express, but it's not quite a fulfilment of the promise of its predecessor.

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published 26.04.2020 | Comments (7)

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28.02.2020 - 13:26
Rating: 9
nonZero

First single release.

Sounds similar to the stuff on their last album, which isn't a bad thing, but I do miss the days of Shogun/Ascendancy.

Hopefully they will vary the song structures a little more on this one (more 7min+ songs please) as I felt this was the weak point in their last release.
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26.03.2020 - 15:39
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Florida-based metallers TRIVIUM have released the official Ryan Mackfall-directed video for "What The Dead Men Say", the title track of their upcoming ninth album. Due on April 24 via Roadrunner Records, the LP will be the follow-up to "The Sin And The Sentence", which came out in October 2017. That effort marked the band's first release with drummer Alex Bent, who joined TRIVIUM in 2016.

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17.04.2020 - 10:49
Cynic Metalhead
Ambrish Saxena
Another new song streaming online.

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22.04.2020 - 21:02
Cynic Metalhead
Ambrish Saxena
Another new song.

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23.04.2020 - 16:37
Rating: 8
EternumBleed
What The Dead Man Say=>ASATS>Catastrophist>>>>>Bleed Into Me
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24.04.2020 - 10:51
Rating: 9
nonZero
Written by EternumBleed on 23.04.2020 at 16:37

What The Dead Man Say=>ASATS>Catastrophist>>>>>Bleed Into Me

100% agree. I'm hoping the other songs on this will be more like the first 3 mentioned and less like the disappointing Bleed Into Me.
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24.04.2020 - 16:51
Rating: 8
CakeN7
Finally, 2 good Trivium albums in a row! Only took them the best part of 2 decades.
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24.04.2020 - 20:27
Rating: 8
Written by nonZero on 24.04.2020 at 10:51

Written by EternumBleed on 23.04.2020 at 16:37

What The Dead Man Say=>ASATS>Catastrophist>>>>>Bleed Into Me

100% agree. I'm hoping the other songs on this will be more like the first 3 mentioned and less like the disappointing Bleed Into Me.

Love the first 3 singles but unfortunately found the rest of the album kinda forgettable
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24.04.2020 - 21:07
Rating: 9
Sword_Chant
I think it's even better than TSATS, which was an excellent return to form. Very strong effort again from these guys!

Best song on the album imo is Sickness Unto You.

Their new drummer is just an absolute machine
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25.04.2020 - 00:35
Rating: 8
Urist
Don't think I can bring myself to says its quite up with in waves and shogun like tsas was. Still good. Sickness unto you, catastrophist and bending the arc to fear.
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25.04.2020 - 12:17
Rating: 7
musclassia
Staff
On first listen I thought it was decent but a clear step below TSATS, will have to see if a few repeat listens alter that but I suspect not. This latest drummer is a major coup for them though, he's fantastic
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25.04.2020 - 22:54
Rating: 7
musclassia
Staff
Written by nonZero on 24.04.2020 at 17:16

Not as strong as their last album. 8/10 for me.

My order of preference:
1. Shogun - 10/10
2. Ascendancy - 9.5/10
3. In Waves - 9/10
4. The Sin And The Sentence - 8.5/10
5. What The Dead Men Say - 8/10
6. The Crusade - 7.5/10
7. Ember to Inferno - 7/10
8. Vengeance Falls - 7/10
9. Silence In The Snow - 6/10

I'd move VF above this album and dock 0.5-1 point from most of the other scores, but that ranking's pretty close to how I'd do them I guess I'd probably go:

Ascendancy - 9.5
Shogun - 9
In Waves 8-8.5
TSATS - 8
Vengeance Falls - 7.5
WTDMS - on second listen, it's in the 7-7.5 tier
The Crusade - 6.5
Ember To Inferno - 6.5
Silence In The Snow - 5.5

I still think Ascendancy is god-tier, but aside from Silence In The Snow, they've managed to transition successfully into the post-Shogun era, and whilst I don't see myself revisiting the new one regularly, it's turned out better than I was fearing as the singles kept dropping
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25.04.2020 - 23:11
Rating: 8
Metal Diogenes
This might be the first Trivium album I have ever listened through, and I liked it. Unlike many other bands around, they seem to have a personality of their own, even if it means some pop and metalcore influences here and there. I think the right word here is "refreshing". Maybe I should check Shogun next.
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26.04.2020 - 08:38
Theodore V
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lol... Trivium... WTF is so appealing about pop-sounding and whinny vocals over generic riffs??? I don't get it
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26.04.2020 - 09:03
Theodore V
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Written by Kangaroo Jury on 25.04.2020 at 12:54

Didn't know that the gordon-levitt guy was singing in a thrash metal boy band.

THANK YOU
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26.04.2020 - 11:39
Rating: 8
Aries Rising
Written by [user id=124004] on 26.04.2020 at 08:38

lol... Trivium... WTF is so appealing about pop-sounding and whinny vocals over generic riffs??? I don't get it

Matt sounds like he's channeling Corey Taylor on a lot of this material. Dude needs to just be comfortable in his own shoes as a vocalist.
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26.04.2020 - 21:44
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Tage Westerlund
I like how thety mix clean vox whit harder vox, many bands whit such music would growl, do harsh, this mixes and it works
I like most what the dad man say, I like how he did small calm parts in among the shadows n stones but best is bleed into me.
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I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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27.04.2020 - 04:10
Rating: 7
X-FrEaK
Written by [user id=124004] on 26.04.2020 at 08:38

lol... Trivium... WTF is so appealing about pop-sounding and whinny vocals over generic riffs??? I don't get it

First Katatonia and now Trivium, are you the new troll in town? How old are you 15? Did you discover your black metal yesterday? Congrats
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27.04.2020 - 08:10
Rating: 9
Thor arise
What the dead men say, Catastrophist, amongst the shadows and the stones, sickness unto you are amazing! The rest are good but not on the same level. The sin and the sentence was near the perfect this album does not reach the same level but a good effort🤘🏻🤘🏻
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27.04.2020 - 09:37
Theodore V
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Written by X-FrEaK on 27.04.2020 at 04:10

First Katatonia and now Trivium, are you the new troll in town? How old are you 15? Did you discover your black metal yesterday? Congrats

Are you fucking stalking me? What is it with you people? I have to like the same shit as you other wise there's something wrong with me? You need to get your head examined
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27.04.2020 - 12:42
Rating: 8
Dark Forever
Ruído Sonoro
Written by X-FrEaK on 27.04.2020 at 04:10

Written by [user id=124004] on 26.04.2020 at 08:38

lol... Trivium... WTF is so appealing about pop-sounding and whinny vocals over generic riffs??? I don't get it

First Katatonia and now Trivium, are you the new troll in town? How old are you 15? Did you discover your black metal yesterday? Congrats

Maybe he did, but he hasn't reached the Death Metal category yet, because he's also criticizing the new Ulcerate album.
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28.04.2020 - 00:46
Rating: 7
X-FrEaK
Written by [user id=124004] on 27.04.2020 at 09:37

Written by X-FrEaK on 27.04.2020 at 04:10

First Katatonia and now Trivium, are you the new troll in town? How old are you 15? Did you discover your black metal yesterday? Congrats

Are you fucking stalking me? What is it with you people? I have to like the same shit as you other wise there's something wrong with me? You need to get your head examined

Funny you say "i have to like the same shit as you", because the Katatonia album you commented on is, in my opinion, plain bad. I remember I was around 16 when I started to listen to "trve" metal, and I would talk shit about Mastodon (which is a band that to this day im not a fan) in a portuguese metal forum with the same kind of words as you. Everything that was out of my greater taste for music was shit and I would insult said bands/tastes/genres as you have been doing in metalstorm.

...I was 16.
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28.04.2020 - 00:56
nikarg
Staff
As I already said in the Ulcerate's album thread:

Enough now.
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02.05.2020 - 07:12
ickoriss
Another solid release from the Trivium boys. Loved this thing.
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03.05.2020 - 13:51
Rating: 8
Skl3ros
Drummer is hard carrying the band at this point
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24.05.2020 - 08:47
Rating: 9
metalbrat
Written by EternumBleed on 23.04.2020 at 16:37

What The Dead Man Say=>ASATS>Catastrophist>>>>>Bleed Into Me

I added Sickness unto you also to that list but it comes before Bleed into me.
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24.05.2020 - 14:55
Rating: 7
Eternity'sChild
I have to agree with people saying that this is not as good as their last album, but it's still enjoyable. Really cool to see that one of the bands that I started my journey into metal with (actually the first live concert I attended was from them) is still quite relevant in their genre and that I can still with confidence say, that this is a solid band producing solid music. Can't say the same about the vast majority of stuff that I listened to in my first years.
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27.05.2020 - 06:50
Rating: 8
Aries Rising
Not as good as Sin but still pretty solid.
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30.05.2020 - 11:01
Rating: 9
metalbrat
I think I am liking it more than the Sin and the Sentence. More songs are growing into me. In Sin i had 4 songs getting repeated while this one has 7 including the intro.
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14.06.2020 - 11:26
jawharessence
This album is massive. It's so hard to pick a favorite from it.
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