Is Doom Metal an Original Metal Genre or not?
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Posted by Unknown user, 05.04.2009 - 19:23
I was at a persian metal blog 2 mounths ago, I entered to Doom Metal thread and saw a post which was saying:
"Doom Metal is not an Original Metal Genre and it came through Heavy Metal by Black Sabbath"
we talked a lot about this, my opinion was that Doom Metal is an original genre, but the lady who was talkin with me tried to convince me that its not and her reasons were that we cant find any 2 doom metal bands which sounds the same! and her other reason was that, "why every subgenres of doom metal has a suffix or prefix such as black doom, death doom ... etc.
I said to her, that I'll open a poll here at Metal Storm for enlighten this topic.
Edited: The other thing which we talked about it much, was that she and her friends were saying that: "Traditional Doom is not a original one cause its coming through the heart of NWOBHM and Heavy Metal itself", they tried to convince me that Traditional is mixed with Doom
Poll
Is Doom Metal an Original Metal Genre or not?
Yes it is Original
91
No its not Original
11
Total votes: 102
| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15287  |
Written by [user id=31891] on 03.06.2009 at 10:03 the chart, for the most part is pretty good. it's not fucking "100% wrong" because 10 out of 120 bands are mislabeled. in life there are things called "shades of gray" as pretty much NOTHING is 100% right or wrong. it's that attitude on your part that has contributed to your history of useless arguments, blow ups, and disciplinary actions. wake up, step up to reality. the incredible vast majority of life is in that gray in between area. the sooner you accept it, the better. using your faulty logic, YOU are 100% wrong. jesus mango fuck, imagine how school/university would be if instructors adopted your bullshit outlook on things. "Sorry, buddy, you got a 99% on your Accounting 210 test, 20% better than the next guy in the class. But you got one wrong, so YOU FAIL! 100% WRONG! 0%!"
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| VaronoZz Vampbaron Posts: 707  |
What a stupid question, maybe the subgenre with the most differences from the others, and so unique
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| BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin Posts: 15287 |
Written by [user id=42258] on 25.07.2009 at 02:52 doom metal kinda started with the track "Black Sabbath" ...
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
Written by [user id=42258] on 25.07.2009 at 02:52 Like bittercold said it kinda started with Black Sabbath. It started with clean vocals with band such as Black Sabbath, Pentagram, Trouble, Candlemass and only later started to crossover with death metal (think My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, Anathema, Winter etc.)
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8669  |
I find doom metal (at least those i have listened from it) to be quite specific and unique...
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 62008  |
Written by Ellrohir on 25.07.2009 at 10:42 and you're wright about it man its ubique there isnt genre who's so unique, only goths thinks gothic staff is uniqe and bm fans think they are warriors against ....lol
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| Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8669 |
I am bm fan and i dont think i am warrior against anything 
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 62008 |
Written by Ellrohir on 25.07.2009 at 13:56 me to but those only BM who dontr like other genres like Ghaal , one member from MS etc
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| qlacs "The Quaker" Posts: 1547  |
Well, I heard many doom bands in my life, and I also think this genre is unique enough to say it's original. But if you examine this from another side, like: When did the bands/journalists begin to say "Doom" instead of "Heavy"? So we could say the origin was the heavy metal but doom metal developed itself as a different music style through many years. So maybe it's not and original genre, because it has its roots, but also heavily unique to say it's original. I don't know. PS: What is doom metal in Black Sabbath? I always thought as heavy metal about it.
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| Jan Posts: 247  |
I simply can't get my head around her argument - but never mind: I think that doom (of course) is a original genre. Nuff said.
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| CobiWan1993 Secundum Filium Posts: 1365  |
I do believe so, it is slower and heavier than many other genres of metal and therefore makes it a distinct and unique genre.
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| R'Vannith ghedengi Elite Posts: 3099  |
 What kind of a question is that? By that logic the entire metal genre is unoriginal if we are speaking of Black Sabbath as an influence. Rubbish. All music has its inspirations and the doom genre you have today is clearly something of a distinct sound to the kind of music Black Sabbath were playing, not to mention the various forms it has developed into.
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| squidrick420 Posts: 187  |
Written by BitterCOld on 25.07.2009 at 03:34 correct. nothing defines old doom more than early sabbath, especially the Masters Of Reality album
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 62008 |
Is there some portal or like facebook for example Doom and its all supgenres, simmilar pages or portals where I can read newswest doom metal news?
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| Heavy Mettle Posts: 2  |
Written by Bad English on 24.08.2013 at 14:52 I believe your best bet would be http://www.doommantia.com/, since they seem to be on top of things. However, I also know the admins of that site were homeless for a little while, so I can't be too sure how up-to-date it is.
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 62008 |
Written by Heavy Mettle on 25.08.2013 at 03:27 seems decent to me, but I would like more MS style where are more 1-2 day old news poseted everywhere, because looking to all band pages are not possible ;( blabber sucks and ms members dont add so much news , I am only one who do add a lot of news, old days here were diferent
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