Written by mortjoyeux on 17.11.2008 at 06:54

Written by LeChron James on 17.11.2008 at 06:15

Mmm seeing as how Varg stabbed Euronymous to death, i think the winner is Varg

Yeah my thoughts exactly lol.
I still prefer Varg over Euronymous anyways though, even if varg is a twat and a half.
It's all about the music they create, and burzum > mayhem imo.

Written by LeChron James on 17.11.2008 at 07:24

Written by mortjoyeux on 17.11.2008 at 06:54

Written by LeChron James on 17.11.2008 at 06:15

Mmm seeing as how Varg stabbed Euronymous to death, i think the winner is Varg

Yeah my thoughts exactly lol.
I still prefer Varg over Euronymous anyways though, even if varg is a twat and a half.
It's all about the music they create, and burzum > mayhem imo.

i dont really like either of them. but i would pick euronymous simply because all Det Som Engang Var comprises of is Varg screaming to some amateurly composed background music. and i think the only good thing to ever come out of mayhem was HellHammer. hes the only musician from mayhem whos recognized for his technical skill rather than his notoriety.

Written by Berfones on 22.11.2008 at 15:14

Written by LeChron James on 17.11.2008 at 07:24

Written by mortjoyeux on 17.11.2008 at 06:54

Written by LeChron James on 17.11.2008 at 06:15

Mmm seeing as how Varg stabbed Euronymous to death, i think the winner is Varg

Yeah my thoughts exactly lol.
I still prefer Varg over Euronymous anyways though, even if varg is a twat and a half.
It's all about the music they create, and burzum > mayhem imo.

i dont really like either of them. but i would pick euronymous simply because all Det Som Engang Var comprises of is Varg screaming to some amateurly composed background music. and i think the only good thing to ever come out of mayhem was HellHammer. hes the only musician from mayhem whos recognized for his technical skill rather than his notoriety.

keep in mind that this album was recorded in prison with no instruments but a synthisizer since it is the only one allowed...
listen to Filosofem or something, it is much better
Furthemore, did you even listen to the album? Key to the gate, lost wisdom, those songs are great, much more than just screaming as you called it

Written by Berfones on 24.11.2008 at 10:48

I find the lyrics of it very deep and interesting...
the music, I agree, it is very simple and nothing special about it...

Written by Berfones on 22.11.2008 at 15:14

keep in mind that this album was recorded in prison with no instruments but a synthisizer since it is the only one allowed...

Written by Lucas on 24.11.2008 at 13:54

Written by Berfones on 22.11.2008 at 15:14

keep in mind that this album was recorded in prison with no instruments but a synthisizer since it is the only one allowed...

Det Som Engang Var, Hvis Lyset Tar Oss & Filosofem (and Aske obviously) were all recorded BEFORE he was sent to prison. They were released while he was in prison, but recorded before (Det & Hvis in '92, Filosofem in '93).

The only two albums he created in prison, recorded in prison, with synthesizer only are Dauði Baldrs & Hliðskjálf.
In case you're wondering, I take my information from the cd-booklets.

EDIT: So basically my point is that during Det Som, Hvis & Filosofem he actually was at full-strength, so you're argument that he was musically crippled because he could only use a synthesizer is invalid.

Written by LeChron James on 24.11.2008 at 13:11

Written by Berfones on 24.11.2008 at 10:48

I find the lyrics of it very deep and interesting...
the music, I agree, it is very simple and nothing special about it...

man i wouldnt even go that far. the only lyrics in "Channelling The Power of Souls into a New God" is "Worship Me". unless hes quoting that from somewhere, thats really not that deep. i could do that. but im not that guy. like i said before, im gonna wait til he gets outta prison and makes some more technically coherent music.

Written by Berfones on 24.11.2008 at 15:23

they were writen when he was free, but recorded while in prison
this is at least what I read in an interview with him (but that site is not always so relayable...)

Written by Lucas on 24.11.2008 at 15:29

Written by Berfones on 24.11.2008 at 15:23

they were writen when he was free, but recorded while in prison
this is at least what I read in an interview with him (but that site is not always so relayable...)

You're probably talking about burzum.org? I don't trust that site at all and on the cd booklets it says (in norwegian, translation from metal-archives) that the albums were recorded in '92 and '93.

Written by TheBigRossowski on 26.11.2008 at 12:14

I voted for Varg in this battle of 'titans'. Clearly he won... not here, but in real life

Its funny how many fans will take too much of this stuff seriously. 'Well, Euronymous stood for this...' or 'he represented that...'blah, blah, blah. It was just teenage hormones and he never grew out of it. And what people think he stood for, I believe what I've read from Varg, that he didn't stand for any of it. He was just an image.

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 10:35

Written by TheBigRossowski on 26.11.2008 at 12:14

I voted for Varg in this battle of 'titans'. Clearly he won... not here, but in real life

Its funny how many fans will take too much of this stuff seriously. 'Well, Euronymous stood for this...' or 'he represented that...'blah, blah, blah. It was just teenage hormones and he never grew out of it. And what people think he stood for, I believe what I've read from Varg, that he didn't stand for any of it. He was just an image.

Varg or Euronymous?

Written by TheBigRossowski on 28.11.2008 at 20:36

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 10:35

Written by TheBigRossowski on 26.11.2008 at 12:14

I voted for Varg in this battle of 'titans'. Clearly he won... not here, but in real life

Its funny how many fans will take too much of this stuff seriously. 'Well, Euronymous stood for this...' or 'he represented that...'blah, blah, blah. It was just teenage hormones and he never grew out of it. And what people think he stood for, I believe what I've read from Varg, that he didn't stand for any of it. He was just an image.

Varg or Euronymous?

Euronymous, I believe he was just in the mindset and never grew out of it before he was killed. Thats the image that stuck with him. Thats just my opinion though, how could I really know? Never met either of them... obviously. Hopefully you understand me correctly though.

For the most part, they took bands like Venom way too seriously and the whole 'evil' thing as they saw it and not as a theatrical thing. Its like there are really TWO black metals, the theatrical dudes and the EVIL dudes. Yet today, black metal is SUPPOSED to be 'evil'.

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 23:21

Written by TheBigRossowski on 28.11.2008 at 20:36

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 10:35

Written by TheBigRossowski on 26.11.2008 at 12:14

I voted for Varg in this battle of 'titans'. Clearly he won... not here, but in real life

Its funny how many fans will take too much of this stuff seriously. 'Well, Euronymous stood for this...' or 'he represented that...'blah, blah, blah. It was just teenage hormones and he never grew out of it. And what people think he stood for, I believe what I've read from Varg, that he didn't stand for any of it. He was just an image.

Varg or Euronymous?

Euronymous, I believe he was just in the mindset and never grew out of it before he was killed. Thats the image that stuck with him. Thats just my opinion though, how could I really know? Never met either of them... obviously. Hopefully you understand me correctly though.

For the most part, they took bands like Venom way too seriously and the whole 'evil' thing as they saw it and not as a theatrical thing. Its like there are really TWO black metals, the theatrical dudes and the EVIL dudes. Yet today, black metal is SUPPOSED to be 'evil'.

If Euronymous was still alive I think he would have got the title "poser" for his acts...
as for the evil and theatrical, it does not contredict one another, take Mayhem for example, they are one of the first "evil" BM bands and still have theatrical elements such as the pigs' heads in their shows...
I think that the "evilness" is what took BM from the first wave to the second and really made it what we call True Black Metal and not thrash like the first wave..

Written by TheBigRossowski on 30.11.2008 at 17:18

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 23:21

Written by TheBigRossowski on 28.11.2008 at 20:36

Written by Berfones on 28.11.2008 at 10:35

Written by TheBigRossowski on 26.11.2008 at 12:14

Yeah, I agree with you here. It can be evil and still theatrical, just look at Shining. They put on one HELL of a show and yet Kvarforth has some serious issues. Its just the difference between those first bands and the next. Venom just had the image, whereas in Norway the whole thing was brought to life.

And Euronymous would either be a poser today, or something else completely absurd, like a very gay ambient artist or something.

Written by Lehctim on 02.12.2008 at 07:27

I voted for Varg, his music is better, he was more influential, and he was right with his actions. He killed Euronymous because Euronymous wanted to kill him! I barely even consider Euronymous a musician, and he was definitely a poser and a hypocrite.

Written by Berfones on 02.12.2008 at 10:34

Written by Lehctim on 02.12.2008 at 07:27

I voted for Varg, his music is better, he was more influential, and he was right with his actions. He killed Euronymous because Euronymous wanted to kill him! I barely even consider Euronymous a musician, and he was definitely a poser and a hypocrite.

indeed he was an hypocrite, and perhapse a poser, but he was a musician, he even played with Burzum in the first album
I have no problems with Euronymous skill on a guitar, its more a matter of songwriting. In the ten years (1983-1993) he was active with Mayhem, they only released about 100 minutes of music total, and that was with the help of the rest of the band too (Yes, I know he also had various side projects). Varg, on the other hand wrote all of Burzum's material by himself, and while Burzum was active released something pretty much every year (Varg also had side projects). I guess saying Euronymous was barely a musician is an exageration, but Varg made a lot more music and better music, IMHO.

Written by BitterCOld on 07.12.2008 at 18:51

The funny thing is had it gone down the other way, and Euronymous actually stabbed Vargy to death, you'd all be kissing his ass rather than Vargy Vargersons.

and Sandy, you are full of fail.

Written by BitterCOld on 07.12.2008 at 18:51

The funny thing is had it gone down the other way, and Euronymous actually stabbed Vargy to death, you'd all be kissing his ass rather than Vargy Vargersons.

and Sandy, you are full of fail.

Written by [user id=17317] on 21.12.2008 at 14:05

What a bullshit I see here I think that both are good musicans. Varg was bad musican at the practise side Euro. knew better how to play guitar etc. Also Euro. did a lot for BM and has better music I liike Burzum also but Mayhem is more. Its a pity that Varg doesnt want to make gigs and so.

Written by Berfones on 24.12.2008 at 10:07

Written by [user id=17317] on 21.12.2008 at 14:05

What a bullshit I see here I think that both are good musicans. Varg was bad musican at the practise side Euro. knew better how to play guitar etc. Also Euro. did a lot for BM and has better music I liike Burzum also but Mayhem is more. Its a pity that Varg doesnt want to make gigs and so.

he can't play gigs and so, he is in jail

Written by [user id=17317] on 31.12.2008 at 14:16

Written by Berfones on 24.12.2008 at 10:07

Written by [user id=17317] on 21.12.2008 at 14:05

What a bullshit I see here I think that both are good musicans. Varg was bad musican at the practise side Euro. knew better how to play guitar etc. Also Euro. did a lot for BM and has better music I liike Burzum also but Mayhem is more. Its a pity that Varg doesnt want to make gigs and so.

he can't play gigs and so, he is in jail

Yes but when he wasnt he didnt want to play at any gigs.