Written by YonTroper on 19.09.2010 at 04:13

Black Metal - Mercyful Fate (if they count)
Death Metal - Morbid Angel
Grindcore - Suffocation
Technical Death Metal - Atheist
Doom Metal - Candlemass
Progressive Metal - Opeth
Thrash Metal - Kreator

Great choices, but suffocation ain't grindcore

Written by Zombie on 19.09.2010 at 04:21

Written by YonTroper on 19.09.2010 at 04:13

Black Metal - Mercyful Fate (if they count)
Death Metal - Morbid Angel
Grindcore - Suffocation
Technical Death Metal - Atheist
Doom Metal - Candlemass
Progressive Metal - Opeth
Thrash Metal - Kreator

Great choices, but suffocation ain't grindcore

Grindcore-influenced, at least. Just pretend I said Carcass

By the way, I vote for a power metal category, for which my choice is Kamelot.

Btw, you seem to be a fan of Dream theater .. why didn't you list them in the 'progressive' category?

Black Metal - Venom
Death Metal - Death
Grindcore - Napalm Death
Technical Death Metal - Death
Doom Metal - Black Sabbath
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Written by Zombie on 19.09.2010 at 04:54

Btw, you seem to be a fan of Dream theater .. why didn't you list them in the 'progressive' category?

Oh, I am. I just think Opeth have been a bit more consistent, and to be honest Dream Theater's been getting worse since 2005.

By leading you mean personal picks or sales ? I'll give them both :

Sale-wise :

Black Metal - Cradle Of Filth (unless you mean "true black metal" then Satyricon)
Death Metal - Cannibal Corpse
Grindcore - Napalm Death
Technical Death Metal - Death
Doom Metal - Paradise Lost
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica (unless you mean "thrash from start to fininsh", then Slayer)


Personal picks :
Black Metal - Vintersorg
Death Metal - Death (unless they belong to tech-death, then In Flames)
Grindcore - Bolt Thrower (unless they belong to death, then Carcass... unless they too don't count, then Nasum)
Technical Death - Death (unless I can't pick them twice, then Cynic)
Doom Metal - Amorphis (unless it's too folk for this genre, then Solitude Aeternus)
Progressive Metal - Psychotic Waltz (No unless)
Thrash Metal - Testament

Black: Not much into black...
Death: Cannibal Corpse
Tech Death: Necrophagist
Grindcore: Carcass
Doom: Candlemass
Prog: Opeth
Thrash: Metallica

Black Metal: I have actually no damn clue, I don't really listen to black metal
Death: Death
Technical Death Metal: Necrophagist
Grindcore: Wormrot
Doom: Bleh No clue either
Prog: Dream Theater
Thrash: Old (Exodus) Modern (Toxic Holocaust)

Black: early Behemoth (Sventevith)
Death: The Crown (for Eternal Death)
Grindcore: Terrorizer
Doom: Warning
Prog: Dream Theater (for I&W)
Thrash: Metallica

Why placing death metal and technical death metal separately? Also, what's with ETOS being doom?

Leading as in most popular or influencial? Or as in favorite? I'm basing my picks on what me and people I hang out with consider to be the best of that genre / leader.

Black Metal- No opinion
Folk- No opinion
Death Metal- Death
Doom Metal- Electric Wizard (Unless you count Black Sabbath)
Progressive Metal- Dream Theater
Thrash Metal- Metallica (Old Stuff Only). Exodus if you're talking about all albums.

Black Metal - Venom
Grindcore - Terrorizer
Doom Metal - Black Sabbath
Death Metal - Death
Brutal Death Metal - Suffocation
Technical Death Metal - Atheist
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Black Metal - Enslaved
Death Metal - Death
Grindcore - NONE
Technical Death Metal - Martyr
Doom Metal - NONE
Progressive Metal - Opeth
Thrash Metal - Stone

Wow I know I already posted here but after reflections... Im going back on what I said

Death Metal: Death
Grindcore: Cephalic Carnage
Technical Death Metal: Quo Vadis
Doom Metal: The Sword
Progressive Metal: Opeth
Thrash Metal: Exodus

Death Metal: Death
Grindcore: Carcass
Tech Death: Necrophagist
Brutal Death: Suffocation
Progressive: Opeth
Thrash: Metallica
Black: Immortal

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Technical Death Metal - Necrophagist
Doom Metal - Draconian
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Written by Metal_4Ever on 03.07.2011 at 00:46

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Technical Death Metal - Necrophagist
Doom Metal - Draconian
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Amon Amarth aren't really a grindcore band. And Cradle is black metal. They may have released a dm album, but not worth mentioning here really.

Written by [user id=116405] on 06.07.2011 at 17:38

Written by Metal_4Ever on 03.07.2011 at 00:46

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Technical Death Metal - Necrophagist
Doom Metal - Draconian
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Amon Amarth aren't really a grindcore band. And Cradle is black metal. They may have released a dm album, but not worth mentioning here really.

Yeah you are right but I dont care if I open the band page on ms and I see that they play dm or gc

Written by Metal_4Ever on 03.07.2011 at 00:46

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Doom Metal - Draconian

You should listen to music before posting a list like this.

Dimmu are not the pinnacle of black metal, they play a rather stale form of sympho-black that hasn't even touched the right level of extremity for almost a decade.

CoF are a generic "extreme" gothic band that haven't released a death metal album since...around the time I was born. They are not by any stretch considered a leading death metal band by anybody, aside from you I suppose.

Such is the case with Amon Amarth - they play melodeath, and haven't touched on grind since they were known as Scum before I was born. And they didn't officially release any grind material, so calling them a leader of the genre is just ... stupid.

As for Draconian, there's a lot of debate around whether or not they're doom or gothic. Personally I'd go with the latter, but there are undeniably doom influences; still, calling them a leader in the genre will only get you laughed at by the likes of Marcel, Mr. Doctor, and myself (not that our opinions matter, just sayin').

Written by Metal_4Ever on 06.07.2011 at 17:52

Written by [user id=116405] on 06.07.2011 at 17:38

Written by Metal_4Ever on 03.07.2011 at 00:46

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Technical Death Metal - Necrophagist
Doom Metal - Draconian
Progressive Metal - Dream Theater
Thrash Metal - Metallica

Amon Amarth aren't really a grindcore band. And Cradle is black metal. They may have released a dm album, but not worth mentioning here really.

Yeah you are right but I dont care if I open the band page on ms and I see that they play dm or gc

They are from then genres. But it's...rude to call them leading.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.07.2011 at 18:02

Written by Metal_4Ever on 03.07.2011 at 00:46

Black Metal - Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal - Cradle of Filth
Grindcore - Amon Amarth
Doom Metal - Draconian

You should listen to music before posting a list like this.

Dimmu are not the pinnacle of black metal, they play a rather stale form of sympho-black that hasn't even touched the right level of extremity for almost a decade.

CoF are a generic "extreme" gothic band that haven't released a death metal album since...around the time I was born. They are not by any stretch considered a leading death metal band by anybody, aside from you I suppose.

Such is the case with Amon Amarth - they play melodeath, and haven't touched on grind since they were known as Scum before I was born. And they didn't officially release any grind material, so calling them a leader of the genre is just ... stupid.

As for Draconian, there's a lot of debate around whether or not they're doom or gothic. Personally I'd go with the latter, but there are undeniably doom influences; still, calling them a leader in the genre will only get you laughed at by the likes of Marcel, Mr. Doctor, and myself (not that our opinions matter, just sayin').

You are right in all what did you say except that DB isn't the pinnacle of BM and draconian isn't Doom Metal
I started love BM because of them and they 6 years of BM without Sympho.
and draconian isn't Gothic because: Gothic was Doom/Death before they cohere and if we assume that draconian in the west DM must be in the east

Written by Metal_4Ever on 06.07.2011 at 18:23

You are right in all what did you say except that DB isn't the pinnacle of BM and draconian isn't Doom Metal
I started love BM because of them and they 6 years of BM without Sympho.
and draconian isn't Gothic because: Gothic was Doom/Death before they cohere and if we assume that draconian in the west DM must be in the east

Dimmu is not a leading black metal band, end of story. By virtue of their accessibility and popularity and lack of extremity they almost strip the black metal genre of its true meaning. You said it yourself, they helped get you into black metal. That's called a gateway band. Gateway bands are not leaders in their respective genres. A true leader of modern black metal would be Watain, Deathspell Omega, Inquisition, Darkspace...quality black metal that doesn't sully the genre.

Draconian's fluffy doom mixed with the poppy female vocals and overall tame approach (I'm saying this as a fan, keep that in mind) does the same thing to doom as Dimmu does to black. Draconian are a gateway band as well, and even though personally I enjoy their sound, they are not leaders of doom. The only people who think they are usually haven't listened to any real doom or bothered digging beyond Draconian. Warning, Pentagram, Candlemass, Saint Vitus, those are real doom bands. Then you get into the death/doom hybrids like Ataraxie, Mar De Grises (a little progressive/atmospheric), Saturnus (some gothic influence), Evoken (also funeral doom), Ahab (funeral-ish as well), Rapture (for more melodic stuff)...heck, Doom:VS is a more legitimate doom band that Draconian.

/rant

Black Metal: Mayhem
Death Metal: Morbid Angel
Grindcore: Napalm Death
Technical Death Metal: Obscura
Doom Metal: Candlemass
Progressive Metal: Symphony X
Thrash Metal: Slayer

First of all, I need to ask: Where the hell is Power Metal?
Black Metal: Satyricon
Death Metal: Cannibal Corpse
Progressive: Dream Theater
Thrash: Iced Earth
Power: Iced Earth

^ Literally all those bands are sleep-inducing. You've got the most generic, mid-paced plastic black metal band (modern stuff anyway), the least inventive, stereotypical death metal band of all time, [can't say anything against DT because I don't like prog altogether], and Iced Earth above all other thrash metal bands?

I know this is all about opinion...I just really question some peoples' opinions when it comes to reading lists like that.

Personally i think:

Black Metal: Emperor
Death Metal: Possessed
Grindcore: early Carcass or The Accused
Technical Death Metal: Death
Doom Metal: Sleep
Progressive Metal: Helloween
Thrash Metal: Slayer

Written by [user id=115824] on 03.11.2011 at 19:07
Black Metal: Emperor
Death Metal: Possessed
Grindcore: early Carcass or The Accused
Technical Death Metal: Death
Doom Metal: Sleep
Progressive Metal: Helloween
Thrash Metal: Slayer

Some of those might be your favorite bands but some of them aren't even active anymore.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 03.11.2011 at 23:11

Written by [user id=115824] on 03.11.2011 at 19:07
Black Metal: Emperor
Death Metal: Possessed
Grindcore: early Carcass or The Accused
Technical Death Metal: Death
Doom Metal: Sleep
Progressive Metal: Helloween
Thrash Metal: Slayer

Some of those might be your favorite bands but some of them aren't even active anymore.

Just one isn't active anymore and maybe Emperor too, but that's it.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.11.2011 at 23:22
Just one isn't active anymore and maybe Emperor too, but that's it.

I didn't think Carcass were making new music, just touring. Death are obviously done and Emperor since Ihsahn is solo.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 03.11.2011 at 23:25

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.11.2011 at 23:22
Just one isn't active anymore and maybe Emperor too, but that's it.

I didn't think Carcass were making new music, just touring. Death are obviously done and Emperor since Ihsahn is solo.

well Carcass is still touring so they are active Same for The Accused and Sleep as well (soon)