Written by Fat & Sassy! on 17.05.2011 at 03:16
As they should. ;3 It makes you more human to long to really feel than to... well... the other kind of "feel". XD

Edit: I had different threads open in different tabs and this topic is so derailed, I thought it was the love thread.

The ironic thing is I don't feel very human, due to never experiencing those things. lol I guess really, sex is just something I've always viewed as the icing on the cake. Like if you're with a great person who you feel deeply connected to, and have a very strong emotional bond with them, then making love is just something that rounds all that off. Like the ultimate way of showing your love physically for that person. The way I see it is, without all that other stuff sex is just an everyday act that anyone can do, and it's not special. And to me anyways, it is something special, and that's why I could only do it in the context of a loving relationship.

About being off topic... maybe we should divert this convo to another thread?

Written by whatsacow on 17.05.2011 at 05:12
If you have a low self esteem you are less likely to notice when someone is hitting on you or chatting you up. Speaking from experience here.

I do have very low self esteem. I look at myself, and think no decent guy is ever going to want to be with me. So by that same token, I see the chances of me being chatted up as pretty much 0. Does that mean if I was chatted up I wouldn't notice it? I think if I was chatted up, I would definitely realise what was going on, but I guess my brain could be subconciously going "does not compute, does not compute!", and that's why it's not registering in my head. I do honestly think the guys who have approached me to talk about music and stuff weren't chatting me up, but who knows, maybe I'm just blind to what actually was going on there.

@Kennoth: I honestly can believe it... about me not showing interest, that's not true I don't think. Though I am really shy, and hypothetically if a guy was chatting me up, maybe he would take that as a sign of me not being interested?

I do think there is hope for you, and I think you should be optimistic about things. I dunno why you're so pessimistic regarding that, especially as I know you have now lost your virginity, and that must have taken a certain amount of confidence on your part to do. I know sex is totally different to finding a partner, but you know what I mean... I hope! hehee

As for the other stuff you said, well right now Im totally focussed on moving from where I currently live. It's a hellhole, and makes me even less scociable than I already am naturally. I never go out in the evening, because I'm scared. Im never going to be a highly sociable person, because it's just not in my nature to be that way. But I'm sure if I was living somewhere half decent, I would go out more often. Although I'm definitely not a pub/clubs type of girl. lol

Oh, and you definitely need to take your own advice hun. xD

Written by Angelic Storm on 17.05.2011 at 07:35

Written by Fat & Sassy! on 17.05.2011 at 03:16
As they should. ;3 It makes you more human to long to really feel than to... well... the other kind of "feel". XD

Edit: I had different threads open in different tabs and this topic is so derailed, I thought it was the love thread.

The ironic thing is I don't feel very human, due to never experiencing those things. lol I guess really, sex is just something I've always viewed as the icing on the cake. Like if you're with a great person who you feel deeply connected to, and have a very strong emotional bond with them, then making love is just something that rounds all that off. Like the ultimate way of showing your love physically for that person. The way I see it is, without all that other stuff sex is just an everyday act that anyone can do, and it's not special. And to me anyways, it is something special, and that's why I could only do it in the context of a loving relationship.

About being off topic... maybe we should divert this convo to another thread?

Written by whatsacow on 17.05.2011 at 05:12
If you have a low self esteem you are less likely to notice when someone is hitting on you or chatting you up. Speaking from experience here.

I do have very low self esteem. I look at myself, and think no decent guy is ever going to want to be with me. So by that same token, I see the chances of me being chatted up as pretty much 0. Does that mean if I was chatted up I wouldn't notice it? I think if I was chatted up, I would definitely realise what was going on, but I guess my brain could be subconciously going "does not compute, does not compute!", and that's why it's not registering in my head. I do honestly think the guys who have approached me to talk about music and stuff weren't chatting me up, but who knows, maybe I'm just blind to what actually was going on there.

@Kennoth: I honestly can believe it... about me not showing interest, that's not true I don't think. Though I am really shy, and hypothetically if a guy was chatting me up, maybe he would take that as a sign of me not being interested?

I do think there is hope for you, and I think you should be optimistic about things. I dunno why you're so pessimistic regarding that, especially as I know you have now lost your virginity, and that must have taken a certain amount of confidence on your part to do. I know sex is totally different to finding a partner, but you know what I mean... I hope! hehee

As for the other stuff you said, well right now Im totally focussed on moving from where I currently live. It's a hellhole, and makes me even less scociable than I already am naturally. I never go out in the evening, because I'm scared. Im never going to be a highly sociable person, because it's just not in my nature to be that way. But I'm sure if I was living somewhere half decent, I would go out more often. Although I'm definitely not a pub/clubs type of girl. lol

Oh, and you definitely need to take your own advice hun. xD

Well, I thought the same thing, that no girl would ever likie me. If it wasnt for one of my friends saying that the girl i liked likied me back, we would never be together. Now that I'm with her, and I've got my confidence up, I do notice it when someone makes a pass at me. You tend to block those things out, because in your mind, it doesnt seem logical. Also, what you were saying to kennoth, guys (well i do anyway) tend to pay more attention to body language than what you actually say.

Written by whatsacow on 17.05.2011 at 15:26
Well, I thought the same thing, that no girl would ever likie me. If it wasnt for one of my friends saying that the girl i liked likied me back, we would never be together. Now that I'm with her, and I've got my confidence up, I do notice it when someone makes a pass at me. You tend to block those things out, because in your mind, it doesnt seem logical. Also, what you were saying to kennoth, guys (well i do anyway) tend to pay more attention to body language than what you actually say.

I still think I haven't been chatted up... But I guess you could have a point that because in my mind a guy finding me attractive and hitting on me isn't logical, it wouldn't register in my brain even if I was being hit on.

About the body language thing, when guys have approached me in the past, I always chat with them, and am friendly. But I'm also extremely shy, and if that is coming across in my body language, maybe they'd be thinking that I wouldn't interested in going out with them?

I don't know I'm shy too but that doesn't stop them, 2 of my friends hit on me last night. lol I just think it's all in self esteem in your case Angelic, gotta give it a shot to get the boosted up!

Written by Yasmine on 16.05.2011 at 23:18

"For me, it's things like never being kissed, or holding hands in the street"

You're not missing anything, Multiple orgasms > holding some dopey dude's hand lol

I disagree. I have always been a hopeless romantic, so sex has always been secondary for me. I've had no string attached sex offered to me by a friend which I am not romantically attached to, but I did not pursue it because it's just... wrong in my book. Wrong, not as in morally wrong, but it's a line that I can't pass, especially when I know sex with a significant other is a holy communion of souls of sorts. It's a connection so deep that it brings each other that much closer to each other rather than just for the sake of reaching an orgasm via physical, sonic and visual stimulation, or, in your words, multiple orgasms.

Written by Ag Fox on 17.05.2011 at 19:46

Written by Yasmine on 16.05.2011 at 23:18

"For me, it's things like never being kissed, or holding hands in the street"

You're not missing anything, Multiple orgasms > holding some dopey dude's hand lol

I disagree. I have always been a hopeless romantic, so sex has always been secondary for me. I've had no string attached sex offered to me by a friend which I am not romantically attached to, but I did not pursue it because it's just... wrong in my book. Wrong, not as in morally wrong, but it's a line that I can't pass, especially when I know sex with a significant other is a holy communion of souls of sorts. It's a connection so deep that it brings each other that much closer to each other rather than just for the sake of reaching an orgasm via physical, sonic and visual stimulation, or, in your words, multiple orgasms.

I disagree, I can go out and hold anyone's hand and the only sensation I'll get is the feel of their skin touching mine, it's really not anything pleasing at all. Nor do I feel "deep" when I do those things. For me I'd feel like a teenager still trying to figure it all out. However I definitely feel sensations from orgasms, ones that cause my body to shake.

Written by Yasmine on 16.05.2011 at 16:21

No, I seriously can go like 3-4 days anymore, hell sometimes I can't make it until the end of day 1.

LOL....... that sounds familiar.......
like someone else in this thread said: it all depends on each's sex drive level... some can do without it for a long time and others NEED it to not go berzerk!..... but how can someone not need it?? it's one of life's most enjoyable plaesures....

Written by Yasmine on 17.05.2011 at 19:51

I disagree, I can go out and hold anyone's hand and the only sensation I'll get is the feel of their skin touching mine, it's really not anything pleasing at all. Nor do I feel "deep" when I do those things. For me I'd feel like a teenager still trying to figure it all out. However I definitely feel sensations from orgasms, ones that cause my body to shake.

I thought it was evident that I didn't refer to holding just anyone's hand, but holding a lover's hand. I've never tried to achieve anything "deep" before. I just goes with what feels right and natural. Me and my gf kissed the moment we met each other. Because it felt right. We hold hands, because it's the most natural thing to do. She snuggles up close to me and I hold her tight because it's almost like a reflex. We make love to each other because that moment was what we wanted from each other. Orgasms are unambiguously pleasurable, but it's even more sensual and gratifying when achieved with someone that you know loves you are deeply as you love them.

The stuff that Ag Fox is describing is exactly what I feel so upset that I've missed out on. It's that deep, spiritual, and emotional connection to someone else I feel deprived of. Not just the act of sex itself, which is something that has never interested me in the slightest. Everything Ag has just talked about it is why I feel a void inside me through never having experienced those things. Sex as a part of that special bond with someone else, yes I do feel like Ive missed out a lot there. But Id rather remain a virgin forever than just sleep with anyone for the sake of it. As that has never been something I've desired.

Written by Angelic Storm on 17.05.2011 at 07:35

@Kennoth: I honestly can believe it... about me not showing interest, that's not true I don't think. Though I am really shy, and hypothetically if a guy was chatting me up, maybe he would take that as a sign of me not being interested?

I do think there is hope for you, and I think you should be optimistic about things. I dunno why you're so pessimistic regarding that, especially as I know you have now lost your virginity, and that must have taken a certain amount of confidence on your part to do. I know sex is totally different to finding a partner, but you know what I mean... I hope! hehee

As for the other stuff you said, well right now Im totally focussed on moving from where I currently live. It's a hellhole, and makes me even less scociable than I already am naturally. I never go out in the evening, because I'm scared. Im never going to be a highly sociable person, because it's just not in my nature to be that way. But I'm sure if I was living somewhere half decent, I would go out more often. Although I'm definitely not a pub/clubs type of girl. lol

Oh, and you definitely need to take your own advice hun. xD

Yeah, I know I should... dunno why I don't lol... I'm sorry, but I think you're just using your neighborhood as an excuse to do nothing, again, speaking from experience. The sooner you snap out of it, the better :p
I'm not much of an outgoing person too, that's why I have a hard time having fun somewhere if I'm not mildly intoxicated. If I am however, it can get pretty fun even if I'm mostly going out with only my best friend

While I too long for sex on higher spiritual level, at this point, any would do, my hormones are constantly raging, and a casual sex (albeit a frequent one) would satisfy me for the time being.

Written by Ag Fox on 17.05.2011 at 19:46

Written by Yasmine on 16.05.2011 at 23:18

"For me, it's things like never being kissed, or holding hands in the street"

You're not missing anything, Multiple orgasms > holding some dopey dude's hand lol

I disagree. I have always been a hopeless romantic, so sex has always been secondary for me. I've had no string attached sex offered to me by a friend which I am not romantically attached to, but I did not pursue it because it's just... wrong in my book. Wrong, not as in morally wrong, but it's a line that I can't pass, especially when I know sex with a significant other is a holy communion of souls of sorts. It's a connection so deep that it brings each other that much closer to each other rather than just for the sake of reaching an orgasm via physical, sonic and visual stimulation, or, in your words, multiple orgasms.

I'm a hopeless romantic too, but all this 'holy communion of souls' thing was quite cheesy. Sometimes sex is just a sex.

Lets keep the superficial sex talk in another thread... like the pub or something.

keep this one for superficial looks talk.

ffs k7 is whining about the direction of this thread...

Written by Angelic Storm on 17.05.2011 at 17:31

Written by whatsacow on 17.05.2011 at 15:26
Well, I thought the same thing, that no girl would ever likie me. If it wasnt for one of my friends saying that the girl i liked likied me back, we would never be together. Now that I'm with her, and I've got my confidence up, I do notice it when someone makes a pass at me. You tend to block those things out, because in your mind, it doesnt seem logical. Also, what you were saying to kennoth, guys (well i do anyway) tend to pay more attention to body language than what you actually say.

I still think I haven't been chatted up... But I guess you could have a point that because in my mind a guy finding me attractive and hitting on me isn't logical, it wouldn't register in my brain even if I was being hit on.

About the body language thing, when guys have approached me in the past, I always chat with them, and am friendly. But I'm also extremely shy, and if that is coming across in my body language, maybe they'd be thinking that I wouldn't interested in going out with them?

You'd be surprised at the amount of guys who are into shy girls. You'll meet someone one day. Sometimes you just have to work a bit harder for it...

Ooooooooon toooooopic...

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 09:15

Ooooooooon toooooopic...

In that doom fest in your tagget pics, what I saw on FB yesterday, was you drunk
And who was guy who sleep at couch

Written by Bad English on 18.05.2011 at 11:29

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 09:15

Ooooooooon toooooopic...

In that doom fest in your tagget pics, what I saw on FB yesterday, was you drunk
And who was guy who sleep at couch

I was just tired after a longday of drinking

That guy is Ally and Irish guy who was also asleep on a chair at Dutch Doom Days 2010

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:43


I was just tired after a longday of drinking

That guy is Ally and Irish guy who was also asleep on a chair at Dutch Doom Days 2010

it means you was drunk
Well he wast a lot of money to sleep all concert in treveling expences.

Written by Bad English on 18.05.2011 at 11:54

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:43


I was just tired after a longday of drinking

That guy is Ally and Irish guy who was also asleep on a chair at Dutch Doom Days 2010

it means you was drunk
Well he wast a lot of money to sleep all concert in treveling expences.

He only slept for a short while

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.05.2011 at 11:56


He only slept for a short while

hehe thats what I do in plain, train after some events

Written by whatsacow on 18.05.2011 at 09:00

You'd be surprised at the amount of guys who are into shy girls. You'll meet someone one day. Sometimes you just have to work a bit harder for it...

I'm one of those guys. I don't get along with overconfident women, since it clashes with my introverted personality.

Sorry for the offtopic.

Written by Kennoth on 18.05.2011 at 23:46

Written by whatsacow on 18.05.2011 at 09:00

You'd be surprised at the amount of guys who are into shy girls. You'll meet someone one day. Sometimes you just have to work a bit harder for it...

I'm one of those guys. I don't get along with overconfident women, since it clashes with my introverted personality.

Sorry for the offtopic.

Maybe we should move this convo. But for now, I'm the same. I prefer shy girls. Im not overly shy myself, I just find myself unnattracted to outgoing women.

To move this convo so it's on topic, I'll reply to Kennoth and WAC's posts in the love thread.

Since we need to get back on track here is a picture of me during the time when I was moving (Drinking a beer on the computer doesn't look like much moving)

Written by [user id=113163] on 20.05.2011 at 19:10

Since we need to get back on track here is a picture of me during the time when I was moving (Drinking a beer on the computer doesn't look like much moving)

what kind of beer is it?

Written by Bad English on 20.05.2011 at 20:33

Written by [user id=113163] on 20.05.2011 at 19:10

Since we need to get back on track here is a picture of me during the time when I was moving (Drinking a beer on the computer doesn't look like much moving)

what kind of beer is it?

PBR. Pabst Blue Ribbon. not exactly a beer i would select to endorse what American brewers are capable of...

Written by BitterCOld on 20.05.2011 at 21:02

Written by Bad English on 20.05.2011 at 20:33

Written by [user id=113163] on 20.05.2011 at 19:10

Since we need to get back on track here is a picture of me during the time when I was moving (Drinking a beer on the computer doesn't look like much moving)

what kind of beer is it?

PBR. Pabst Blue Ribbon. not exactly a beer i would select to endorse what American brewers are capable of...

I see , only from USA I like MIllers and Bud

Written by Bad English on 20.05.2011 at 21:06

I see , only from USA I like MIllers and Bud

i feel sorry for you.

and stay on topic.

Written by Bad English on 20.05.2011 at 21:06

Written by BitterCOld on 20.05.2011 at 21:02

Written by Bad English on 20.05.2011 at 20:33

Written by [user id=113163] on 20.05.2011 at 19:10

Since we need to get back on track here is a picture of me during the time when I was moving (Drinking a beer on the computer doesn't look like much moving)

what kind of beer is it?

PBR. Pabst Blue Ribbon. not exactly a beer i would select to endorse what American brewers are capable of...

I see , only from USA I like MIllers and Bud

Miller and bud taste like straight water. Most major american beer does.
Bud, Miller, Coors, ect....all watered down beer.

PBR has been around longer than you have, its legendary.

Another poodle pic

My younger sister and I. How we came from the same parents is Unknown.

^ you look totally like this one dude I went to high-school with in this pic, except he had hair . But you probably are a far more normal person than he is, I can tell you that.