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The review is spot-on and well written. I just finished my first listen and this is drone, plain and simple. I enjoyed it but with all drone albums, it usually takes me 2-3 listens before I even think of a rating.
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Written by pisymbol on 16.03.2012 at 18:05
The review is spot-on and well written. I just finished my first listen and this is drone, plain and simple. I enjoyed it but with all drone albums, it usually takes me 2-3 listens before I even think of a rating.
Glad you agree and it's not just me that thinks this has a drone quality to it ;]
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19.03.2012 - 02:19Rating: 7
Doom, drone, or dribble it is a good album for a good price on Bandcamp and this review lead me to it. I listen to lots and lots of stuff outside the world of metal but I have always found it curious that people find labels and classifications so important in this genre. It seems at times that fans need their music stereotyped. Maybe thats just me because I find those groupings so confusing.
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19.03.2012 - 11:19Rating: 9
Written by Dogsbreakfast on 19.03.2012 at 02:19
I listen to lots and lots of stuff outside the world of metal but I have always found it curious that people find labels and classifications so important in this genre. It seems at times that fans need their music stereotyped.
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19.03.2012 - 14:11Rating: 10
^Big fucking lol at the discussion a couple of posts above me. I personally find it a bit pathetic when people use the grow-up-card when no one has been offensive towards the other.
But oh well, at least the discussion has ended. Monilithe rules, now back on track.
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This is fucking gr8! downloaded it for $5.
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 25.03.2012 at 16:56
This is drone:
Drone metal possibly with a generous helping of death industrial going by that. It's hard to tell exactly from a live peformance. This and [url=MdpwiZ-my0M]This[/url] are examples of death industrial by the way. That video has a sound similar to a death industrial band, but as I say it's not easy to tell. I see guitars so probably is more drone doom. Which by the way is not what I'm saying Monolithe are (as I said in my review), they are not drone doom which is characterised by sustained chords rather than the clusters of sound used on Interlude Second, so your example of drone and Monolithe do no coincide. Drone in other forms does not necessarily use such conventions of drone doom, though it is common in ambient drone and such.
This is doom:
This is not doom:
This is not apocalyptic
I'm calling a spade a spade, and in my experience of drone and doom the recent Monolithe is not doom. Nor is it "apocalyptic progressive doom metal(ish)." I'm using my experience of listening to music to best characterise what I hear. The drums give off a distinct industrial vibe and the music itself revolves around droning soundscapes rather than the riff structure typical to doom, be it traditional, funeral or drone (doom). Regardless of your issues with "doom stereotypes" doom is based on well defined and longstanding set of rules and aside from the doomy-ish vocals I can detect very little, if anything, which lends itself to a doom aesthetic. To me calling this doom is an egregious oversimplification which seems to ignore virtually everything which is happening in the record, instead focusing on superficial elements like vocals and band history.
Here's a quote from Mark Richardson which, while perhaps not aimed at this style exactly, gives a good impression of the feel and approach on this record:
Quote: The vanishing-point music created by drone elders Phill Niblock and, especially, LaMonte Young is what happens when a fixation on held tones reaches a tipping point. Timbre is reduced to either a single clear instrument or a sine wave, silence disappears completely, and the base-level interaction between small clusters of "pure" tone becomes the music's content. This kind of work takes what typically helps us to distinguish "music" from "sound," discards nearly all of it, and then starts over again from scratch
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 25.03.2012 at 16:56 This is drone:
Congratulations on figuring that out.
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Merchant of Doom
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So, it's not drone, but it's not doom either...
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 17:01
Written by Merchant of Doom on 25.03.2012 at 16:56 This is drone:
Congratulations on figuring that out.
at least I can figure things out...
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
26.03.2012 - 13:06Rating: 9
Wow.. this is something else. Well worded review, it certainly seems alien to me. But that might be because of my unfamiliarity with drone.
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I'm reading back on MoD's comments since I saw him talk about them on doom-metal.com so I'm a bit late to this discussion. This album is a pretty good example of the ambigious post-metal category, IMO. Other than atmospheric sludge, it's been used to refer to stuff like Godflesh and even Jesu. There's an industrial vibe, maybe some droning on the guitars (though I wouldn't put it as a primary genre), and I don't really know what else. Mechanized, spacey post-metal. Vocals aside, I'd describe it as "Godflesh meets Blut Aus Nord meets Tool on Mars."
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It's no secret that Blut Aus Nord's masterbrain, Vindsval, has or at least had incorporated Monolithe into his record label Appease Me with promises of featuring himself as a vocal talent on the long awaited Monolithe III (now supposedly being released under Debemur Mortii)
No Vindsval is featured on this 52 minute track which is Monolith III. And, yes, Debemur Morti will release it on November 16
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2012 at 00:29
No Vindsval is featured on this 52 minute track which is Monolith III. And, yes, Debemur Morti will release it on November 16
According to Debemur Mortii he isn't on Monolithe III
It was originally meant to be released on Appease Me though.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 26.10.2012 at 00:40
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2012 at 00:29
No Vindsval is featured on this 52 minute track which is Monolith III. And, yes, Debemur Morti will release it on November 16
According to Debemur Mortii he isn't on Monolithe III
It was originally meant to be released on Appease Me though.
That's what I am saying
" No Vindsval" so not "No, Vindsval"
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2012 at 00:42
That's what I am saying
"No Vindsval" so not "No, Vindsval"
That's a really awkward way of writing it. That could lead to someone saying "some Vindsval is featured on it." It looked like you were saying "No, Vindsval is not featured on it" just with poor grammar
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Written by [user id=4365] on 26.10.2012 at 00:45
That's a really awkward way of writing it. That could lead to someone saying "some Vindsval is featured on it." It looked like you were saying "No, Vindsval is not featured on it" just with poor grammar
I know it's a bit awkward, due to the possible misunderstanding. Especially on a forum.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2012 at 00:46
I know it's a bit awkward, due to the possible misunderstanding. Especially on a forum.
Oh well, we both meant the same thing so no harm done
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
26.10.2012 - 01:21Rating: 10
Written by [user id=4365] on 26.10.2012 at 00:47
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2012 at 00:46
I know it's a bit awkward, due to the possible misunderstanding. Especially on a forum.
Oh well, we both meant the same thing so no harm done
You guys are going soft... I expected murder.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.10.2012 at 01:21
You guys are going soft... I expected murder.
Nah, with meat-brained morons like Italics lurking around it's best we pool our resources against the genuinely stupid, not each other
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