Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
It's bands like Winds of Plague that give deathcore the bad reputation it's gotten over the years. There are some seriously talented deathcore bands, most of which don't make a failure of an attempt at "symphonic metal", but for some strange reason these are the bands that find themselves with strong financial and tour support from big labels.
You describe the album pretty well overall - nice review. I personally think this is worse than a 5.6, but I'm glad you didn't have as bad a time listening to it as I did.
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5940 |
10.12.2013 - 21:23Rating: 5
Thanks. I am fairly surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did, but I'm still not terribly impressed.
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R Lewis
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Hey Screaming, calm down! There's a shitload of reviews coming from you lately
Nice btw
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Uldreth
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Unless WoP massively changed style over the course of time, it is an absolutely bullshit claim to compare this to pop music, or I have no idea what you meant with the opening statement.
Whatever is people's opinions on the genre, it is a form of extreme metal and actual deathcore has as much to do with pop music as Immolation.
But yeah unless they really stepped up their game here which I doubt on prejudice, this isn't very good.
For good symphonic deathcore, check out Make Them Suffer, The Breathing Process, Ovid's Withering or Betraying The Martyrs.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18384 |
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LeKiwi High Fist Prog
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10.12.2013 - 21:50Rating: 5
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Probably because both bands start with a W and make samurai references, I confused this band with Whispered
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Uldreth
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 10.12.2013 at 21:48
Written by Uldreth on 10.12.2013 at 21:25 Make Them Suffer
Haven't heard the others but I'll totally back you up here.
This is how you do it, kids!
The Breathing Process is a lot like MTS, but less -core, well at least their second album, if I remember well their first is identical to MTS in stylistic terms.
And this is truly truly great imo, would be disappointed if this wasn't nominated for the MS Awards.
Betraying The Martyrs is not that good and not that symphonic (has mostly different kind of electronic leanings) but still is a much nicer listen than most of WoP.
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5940 |
10.12.2013 - 22:24Rating: 5
Written by R Lewis on 10.12.2013 at 21:24
Hey Screaming, calm down! There's a shitload of reviews coming from you lately
Nice btw
What better way to put off studying for my exams?
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5940 |
10.12.2013 - 22:37Rating: 5
Written by Uldreth on 10.12.2013 at 21:25
Unless WoP massively changed style over the course of time, it is an absolutely bullshit claim to compare this to pop music, or I have no idea what you meant with the opening statement.
Whatever is people's opinions on the genre, it is a form of extreme metal and actual deathcore has as much to do with pop music as Immolation.
I'm not saying that it sounds like pop music, because it doesn't (although given the almost-mainstream success of a lot of deathcore bands, I would still say it is fairly commercial-sounding); I'm saying that it is similar to pop music in that it is boring, repetitive, lyrically feeble, and appeals strongly to teenagers who fancy themselves misunderstood.
I agree, as you could probably tell, that this isn't very good.
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 10.12.2013 at 22:24
What better way to put off studying for my exams?
lol - Same here
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18384 |
...and here!
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Yep, here as well. Something about this site always knocks at least a letter grade off every exam I take haha
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SWING!..... and a miss.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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I dont find much difference between WoP and Despised Icon to be honest. Both bands swung their awful records time to time supported by intolerable and bushy fans. New WoP is indeed awful and doesn't sound anything remotely close to "Symphonic". Its hyyyype!.
Nice review. As it said, ratings could have been worse than 5.6.
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.12.2013 at 08:29
I dont find much difference between WoP and Despised Icon to be honest. Both bands swung their awful records time to time supported by intolerable and bushy fans. New WoP is indeed awful and doesn't sound anything remotely close to "Symphonic". Its hyyyype!.
Nice review. As it said, ratings could have been worse than 5.6.
Despised Icon's music is actually pretty technical, they are part of the canadan tech death metal scene for good reason.
In addition, Despised Icon's breakdowns' make sense as opposed to putting them in random places like WoP. Despised Icon's breakdowns' are also pretty varied with many of them sounding totally different, and the band's use of dynamics is exceptional. Despised Icon also has good lyrics as opposed to the immature tough guy drivel WoP is doing.
Despised Icon is miles better than this band.
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 10.12.2013 at 22:37
I'm saying that it is similar to pop music in that it is boring, repetitive, lyrically feeble, and appeals strongly to teenagers who fancy themselves misunderstood.
So it's the same as most death metal.
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5940 |
11.12.2013 - 12:27Rating: 5
Written by Uldreth on 11.12.2013 at 11:45
Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 10.12.2013 at 22:37
I'm saying that it is similar to pop music in that it is boring, repetitive, lyrically feeble, and appeals strongly to teenagers who fancy themselves misunderstood.
So it's the same as most death metal.
Touché.
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Written by Uldreth on 11.12.2013 at 11:43
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.12.2013 at 08:29
I dont find much difference between WoP and Despised Icon to be honest. Both bands swung their awful records time to time supported by intolerable and bushy fans. New WoP is indeed awful and doesn't sound anything remotely close to "Symphonic". Its hyyyype!.
Nice review. As it said, ratings could have been worse than 5.6.
Despised Icon's music is actually pretty technical, they are part of the canadan tech death metal scene for good reason.
and the band's use of dynamics is exceptional. Despised Icon also has good lyrics as opposed to the immature tough guy drivel WoP is doing.
Despised Icon is miles better than this band.
I don't care whether they're part of Canadian tech death metal scene or not. You'll shit loads of band from various geners who's part of their respective scenes. No big deal.
I find DI to be totally average from wasted talents. As i said, WoP and DI weigh on same weighing scale. I listened the debut of DI and it was totally worthless and shut off the album half way through. It could be in your favourites, no problem. But rooting against average band won't change the description of the band.
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.12.2013 at 15:52
I don't care whether they're part of Canadian tech death metal scene or not. You'll shit loads of band from various geners who's part of their respective scenes. No big deal.
I find DI to be totally average from wasted talents. As i said, WoP and DI weigh on same weighing scale. I listened the debut of DI and it was totally worthless and shut off the album half way through. It could be in your favourites, no problem. But rooting against average band won't change the description of the band.
Except everything besides enjoyment is objective or semi-objective here.
If you do not hear any differences between DI and WoP in terms of composition, riff structures, the type of riffs they play and the type of dynamics they use, you are deaf mate.
If you don't enjoy DI that's your issue I don't care about it, but they are compositional geniuses compared to Winds of Plague and also WoP which barely use any actual DM elements, DI is chock full with actual tech death riffs.
Also the first DI album is quite primitive compared to the rest. Ills of the Modern Man is where the real stuff is.
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