Metren Dreadrealm
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04.02.2016 - 04:06Rating: 5
Based on my first two listenings of the album, this review seems fair and hits all the right points. It also makes me want to give the album another chance, maybe it is a grower. At least I never got the impression that they were being lazy or not trying with this album.
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I like concept albums and rock operas but the new DT album just does not deliver anything for me. The more I try listening to it, the worse it gets. LaBrie's performance is very good, I agree to this, but it's not enough.
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andreosokin SOUNDERY
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04.02.2016 - 10:11Rating: 8
Great review, though I would give a "9" for performance. The production is pretty lame indeed, especially the drum sound and the ridiculous autotune on The Gift Of Music.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
04.02.2016 - 10:48Rating: 4
Written by andreosokin on 04.02.2016 at 10:11
Great review, though I would give a "9" for performance.
The bass is almost non-existent. the drumming is totally lazy. It seems like Mr Myung and Mr Mangini recorded their parts in a day or two, without a single bit of creative input on their side. I'd say that 7 for performance is generous.
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Read the only negative review on PA that this album got and the reviewer is so right, I mean it's the only review that I agree with.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1522649 - for the curious
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andreosokin SOUNDERY
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04.02.2016 - 11:32Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 10:48 The bass is almost non-existent.
Blame the mixing guy, it's not JMX's fault => production
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 10:48 It seems like Mr Myung and Mr Mangini recorded their parts in a day or two
Two days for recording drums should be a normal practice. Dan Swano recorded drums for Katatonia's Tonight's Decision in less than 24 hours.
They're definitely not lazy, I'd say it's Petrucci who's pushing them back with creativity to make way for his epic chorus effect on the guitar So blame the producer, JP => production, again
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andreosokin SOUNDERY
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04.02.2016 - 11:40Rating: 8
Written by [user id=17278] on 04.02.2016 at 11:28
Read the only negative review on PA that this album got and the reviewer is so right, I mean it's the only review that I agree with.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1522649 - for the curious
That's a great review, btw! And after reading it I suddenly realized that Beyond Twilight had For The Love Of Art... released 10 years ago, with 40+ tracks which were 38 minutes long in total, which makes an average track size 4 times less than on Astonishing. But that album was almost perfect! There was something original in it, something wild... And it there was no meaningless song length extension, which is exactly the case with DT's new album.
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MikeVonDoom
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Written by Metren on 04.02.2016 at 04:06
Based on my first two listenings of the album, this review seems fair and hits all the right points. It also makes me want to give the album another chance, maybe it is a grower. At least I never got the impression that they were being lazy or not trying with this album.
x2! 'nuff said!
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
04.02.2016 - 14:24Rating: 4
Written by andreosokin on 04.02.2016 at 11:32
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 10:48 The bass is almost non-existent.
Blame the mixing guy, it's not JMX's fault => production
If bass lines were a bit less glued to other instruments, we'd hear the bass guitar more. Check "Learning To Live" or "Illumination Theory" to verify.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
04.02.2016 - 14:31Rating: 4
Written by andreosokin on 04.02.2016 at 11:32
They're definitely not lazy, I'd say it's Petrucci who's pushing them back with creativity to make way for his epic chorus effect on the guitar So blame the producer, JP => production, again
Last time I checked, DT were a 5 man band. If, as you put it, Petrucci pushed drums and bass to the background to make room for his sounds, it is a bad sign that only confirms what I said - there is zero creativity in bass and drum lines.
Quote: Two days for recording drums should be a normal practice. Dan Swano recorded drums for Katatonia's Tonight's Decision in less than 24 hours.
Coming up with creative and interesting drum parts should take a much longer time though. And that's what I meant, not the actual time it took to lay drum tracks.
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To be very honest I haven't liked any of post Portnoy albums. I think that the problem is just simple as that - with Portnoy leaving the band lost much more than a drummer. It also lost the guy who has been the soul of the band so long, pushing others constantly to their limits. And it lost a producer who knew how drums should sound.
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andreosokin SOUNDERY
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04.02.2016 - 20:43Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 14:24
Written by andreosokin on 04.02.2016 at 11:32
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 10:48 The bass is almost non-existent.
Blame the mixing guy, it's not JMX's fault => production
If bass lines were a bit less glued to other instruments, we'd hear the bass guitar more. Check "Learning To Live" or "Illumination Theory" to verify.
I won't argue, those have a lot more interesting bass lines, and that was considered as progressive music for a reason! Myung is probably not as interested in songwriting as before; sometimes it feels like he's just "doing his job"
Written by Daniell on 04.02.2016 at 14:31
Written by andreosokin on 04.02.2016 at 11:32
They're definitely not lazy, I'd say it's Petrucci who's pushing them back with creativity to make way for his epic chorus effect on the guitar So blame the producer, JP => production, again
Last time I checked, DT were a 5 man band. If, as you put it, Petrucci pushed drums and bass to the background to make room for his sounds, it is a bad sign that only confirms what I said - there is zero creativity in bass and drum lines.
Quote: Two days for recording drums should be a normal practice. Dan Swano recorded drums for Katatonia's Tonight's Decision in less than 24 hours.
Coming up with creative and interesting drum parts should take a much longer time though. And that's what I meant, not the actual time it took to lay drum tracks.
A 5-man band, led and produced by Petrucci.
By "recording" I meant actual recording, not arranging.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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04.02.2016 - 22:23Rating: 7
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I can clearly hear improvised bass lines whenever the music gives a chance. The material isn't exactly bass friendly a lot of the time in that sense, and Myung most likely knew that.
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Panterica
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So far it seems quite nice. Better than I expected.
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Written by Panterica on 05.02.2016 at 22:20
So far it seems quite nice. Better than I expected.
I'm sorry, really am, but I LOLed reading that.
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Mr.Wilson
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Written by [user id=17278] on 06.02.2016 at 00:23
Written by Panterica on 05.02.2016 at 22:20
So far it seems quite nice. Better than I expected.
I'm sorry, really am, but I LOLed reading that.
Why? because he has a different opinion?
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I am a HUGE fan of DT ballads, and so I was excited when I heard that this album was mostly ballads...
... damn what a letdown.
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Written by Mr.Wilson on 07.02.2016 at 00:24
Written by [user id=17278] on 06.02.2016 at 00:23
Written by Panterica on 05.02.2016 at 22:20
So far it seems quite nice. Better than I expected.
I'm sorry, really am, but I LOLed reading that.
Why? because he has a different opinion?
no, I did not mean it in a rude way, I'm just surprised at how much some enjoy this album. For me, DT's new album was a big disappointment, but then again I did not have great expectations anyway. When I saw the track list and the fact that it's a rock opera, I did not even think "this could be good", actually the opposite. I don't know why I was so negative.
The more I try listening to it, the worse it gets.
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Azerethum
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08.02.2016 - 10:49Rating: 7
They tried something different for sure but the whole idea of an album of 34 sound alike melody theatrical songs really got me bored though i wanted really to dig in this one. Musicianship and production are perfect but the whole outcome not my cup of tea. I think if they wanted to try something so different shouldn't be under the DT name (maybe some concept/side project album or something).
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RockSplendid
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Written by [user id=17278] on 07.02.2016 at 07:48
Written by Mr.Wilson on 07.02.2016 at 00:24
Written by [user id=17278] on 06.02.2016 at 00:23
Written by Panterica on 05.02.2016 at 22:20
So far it seems quite nice. Better than I expected.
I'm sorry, really am, but I LOLed reading that.
Why? because he has a different opinion?
no, I did not mean it in a rude way, I'm just surprised at how much some enjoy this album. For me, DT's new album was a big disappointment, but then again I did not have great expectations anyway. When I saw the track list and the fact that it's a rock opera, I did not even think "this could be good", actually the opposite. I don't know why I was so negative.
The more I try listening to it, the worse it gets.
I don't know why you're trying to persuade everybody that it's not a good record. You're totally free to not like it and it's just your opinion.
I liked the album too, it's a nice effort, it actually reminded me of Human Equation album by Ayreon, although it's far from that in musicianship but I appreciate the record and LaBrie's vocal. It could have been better, however it's better than their last couple of albums.
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Written by RockSplendid on 13.02.2016 at 01:35
Written by [user id=17278] on 07.02.2016 at 07:48
I'm sorry, really am, but I LOLed reading that.
Why? because he has a different opinion?
no, I did not mean it in a rude way, I'm just surprised at how much some enjoy this album. For me, DT's new album was a big disappointment, but then again I did not have great expectations anyway. When I saw the track list and the fact that it's a rock opera, I did not even think "this could be good", actually the opposite. I don't know why I was so negative.
The more I try listening to it, the worse it gets.
I don't know why you're trying to persuade everybody that it's not a good record. You're totally free to not like it and it's just your opinion.
I liked the album too, it's a nice effort, it actually reminded me of Human Equation album by Ayreon, although it's far from that in musicianship but I appreciate the record and LaBrie's vocal. It could have been better, however it's better than their last couple of albums.
I'm not trying to persuade anybody with anything, I've just tried to state my disappointment with it and my surprise to so many people praising this album. If I have offended anyone, I'm sorry, it was never my intention.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
16.02.2016 - 15:19Rating: 4
If user votes are anything to go by, this is the worst DT album.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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16.02.2016 - 15:52Rating: 7
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Written by Daniell on 16.02.2016 at 15:19
If user votes are anything to go by, this is the worst DT album.
More like most polarizing in a while. I sort of get the low ratings, Train of Thought is pretty popular here, for example.
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BlankFile
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26.08.2016 - 20:22Rating: 6
It´s not a bad album. It has some interesting moments.
But I have to say, I almost fell asleep in some parts. The album is too long and has too much Theatrics, I think.
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