I have four favorite Darkthrone albums. And it is their first four, absoutley amazing albums they are. Although I have not listened to their later albums im guessing its the same old Darkthrone?

Written by BitterCOld on 18.05.2006 at 20:50

There was PLENTY of reason for them to change it up. They changed as a rebellion against the newer breed of 'black metal' bands that merely ape the old. They harkened back to the genre's punk roots* while remaining within their own idiom.

Is it really a "rebellion", though? I accept the fact that some of the traditional Black Metal stuff does have a punk and rockin' edge to it - I've been saying for years that Black Metal has things in common with punk. But Darkthrone were known for their dark atmosphere rather than simply a 'fuck you doood your metal's lame and weak innit huhuh beavis' attitude. It seems rather suspicious to me that Darkthrone (and Satyricon) have suddenly adopted the "black n roll" approach, going out of their way to say "well THIS is true Black Metal, if you don't like it you don't understand..." knowing full well that their new approach is rather more commercial and accessible in the current musical climate. Also, as I've said before, Darkthrone said they'd never release a single or make a video - now they've done both, at exactly the same time as they changed their style.

That might all sound rather negative... I mean, I still like Darkthrone. I just think it's important to keep some perspective.

I love Darkthrone alot. Their new album wasn't the greatest in my opinion though. But their first three releases are the best. Soulside Journey is my favorite album by Darkthrone. Despite that it's death metal, and not black metal it's still a really great album in my opinion.

Written by Richard on 14.07.2006 at 02:30

Written by BitterCOld on 18.05.2006 at 20:50

There was PLENTY of reason for them to change it up. They changed as a rebellion against the newer breed of 'black metal' bands that merely ape the old. They harkened back to the genre's punk roots* while remaining within their own idiom.

Is it really a "rebellion", though? I accept the fact that some of the traditional Black Metal stuff does have a punk and rockin' edge to it - I've been saying for years that Black Metal has things in common with punk. But Darkthrone were known for their dark atmosphere rather than simply a 'fuck you doood your metal's lame and weak innit huhuh beavis' attitude. It seems rather suspicious to me that Darkthrone (and Satyricon) have suddenly adopted the "black n roll" approach, going out of their way to say "well THIS is true Black Metal, if you don't like it you don't understand..." knowing full well that their new approach is rather more commercial and accessible in the current musical climate. Also, as I've said before, Darkthrone said they'd never release a single or make a video - now they've done both, at exactly the same time as they changed their style.

That might all sound rather negative... I mean, I still like Darkthrone. I just think it's important to keep some perspective.

Took me a while to respond.

In regards to their new approach, is it really more commercial? I am not sure of the UK Charts, and, apparently BM DOES show up at the Norwegian Grammys, but in the US, they won't move more than 10,000 units. (Satyricon's Volcano moved 7,500, I believe, in North America). I guess one's perspective on 'commercial' might be largely dependent upon their postal code.

If anything, I think it's a furhter step away from commercialism, in a round about way. They will never get regular play (at least not on this side of the pond) and they just raised a middle finger to piss off the stagnant BM scenesters.

The album might and single are probably not likely to bring them too many new fans, but might piss off a chunk of their old "fans" (you know the ones - those who don't like and bash everything they've released since Zephyrous left).

As for the "we'll never release a single" bit- as I stated before, opinions change. I don't view the single as the end of the world because they wen't back on their word - instead, their change in stance enabled me to enjoy a cover of a Siouxsie and the Banshees song I probably never would have heard otherwise.

Nothing to Prove , Just a Hellish Rock'n Roll Freak !

I'm a fan of the 'black and roll' stuff that Satyricon and Carpathian Forest do. I'll probably perfer the straightforward traditional BM to this 'sub genre' (can we call it that?) but that doesn't reduce the enjoyment.

I was actually listening to the new Darkthrone release for ages sometime last week. They lyrics really do make me laugh.

was watching an interview with Darkthrone in a BM Documentary (part 1 is here http://youtube.com/watch?v=eYgWgAQJF3g) when Fenriz offered this gem,

"If we are Hank Williams, modern black metal is Garth Brooks."

Fenriz is hilarious.

Written by BitterCOld on 28.07.2006 at 21:20

Written by Richard on 14.07.2006 at 02:30

Written by BitterCOld on 18.05.2006 at 20:50

There was PLENTY of reason for them to change it up. They changed as a rebellion against the newer breed of 'black metal' bands that merely ape the old. They harkened back to the genre's punk roots* while remaining within their own idiom.

Is it really a "rebellion", though? I accept the fact that some of the traditional Black Metal stuff does have a punk and rockin' edge to it - I've been saying for years that Black Metal has things in common with punk. But Darkthrone were known for their dark atmosphere rather than simply a 'fuck you doood your metal's lame and weak innit huhuh beavis' attitude. It seems rather suspicious to me that Darkthrone (and Satyricon) have suddenly adopted the "black n roll" approach, going out of their way to say "well THIS is true Black Metal, if you don't like it you don't understand..." knowing full well that their new approach is rather more commercial and accessible in the current musical climate. Also, as I've said before, Darkthrone said they'd never release a single or make a video - now they've done both, at exactly the same time as they changed their style.

That might all sound rather negative... I mean, I still like Darkthrone. I just think it's important to keep some perspective.

Took me a while to respond.

In regards to their new approach, is it really more commercial? I am not sure of the UK Charts, and, apparently BM DOES show up at the Norwegian Grammys, but in the US, they won't move more than 10,000 units. (Satyricon's Volcano moved 7,500, I believe, in North America). I guess one's perspective on 'commercial' might be largely dependent upon their postal code.

If anything, I think it's a furhter step away from commercialism, in a round about way. They will never get regular play (at least not on this side of the pond) and they just raised a middle finger to piss off the stagnant BM scenesters.

The album might and single are probably not likely to bring them too many new fans, but might piss off a chunk of their old "fans" (you know the ones - those who don't like and bash everything they've released since Zephyrous left).

As for the "we'll never release a single" bit- as I stated before, opinions change. I don't view the single as the end of the world because they wen't back on their word - instead, their change in stance enabled me to enjoy a cover of a Siouxsie and the Banshees song I probably never would have heard otherwise.

I agree totally. Darkthrone existed simply to express themselves in a non-mainstream way, and now that the so-called kvlt BM is getting mainstream, they decided to move away from that area, stay true to themselves, and release exactly what they wanted to, not what their label or fans wanted them to.

Darkthrone is one my favorite bands ever! I'm tired of listen those who complain about the new album and the single! People, "The Cult is Alive" is meant to fist-fuck the so-called tr00 bands. Just read the lyrics.

Darkthrone is pretty much one of my favourite black metal bands... actually probably the second or third favourite.

Do you people like the Darkthrone's death metal era?

Written by Judas on 11.08.2006 at 20:25

Written by BitterCOld on 28.07.2006 at 21:20

Written by Richard on 14.07.2006 at 02:30

Written by BitterCOld on 18.05.2006 at 20:50

There was PLENTY of reason for them to change it up. They changed as a rebellion against the newer breed of 'black metal' bands that merely ape the old. They harkened back to the genre's punk roots* while remaining within their own idiom.

Is it really a "rebellion", though? I accept the fact that some of the traditional Black Metal stuff does have a punk and rockin' edge to it - I've been saying for years that Black Metal has things in common with punk. But Darkthrone were known for their dark atmosphere rather than simply a 'fuck you doood your metal's lame and weak innit huhuh beavis' attitude. It seems rather suspicious to me that Darkthrone (and Satyricon) have suddenly adopted the "black n roll" approach, going out of their way to say "well THIS is true Black Metal, if you don't like it you don't understand..." knowing full well that their new approach is rather more commercial and accessible in the current musical climate. Also, as I've said before, Darkthrone said they'd never release a single or make a video - now they've done both, at exactly the same time as they changed their style.

That might all sound rather negative... I mean, I still like Darkthrone. I just think it's important to keep some perspective.

Took me a while to respond.

In regards to their new approach, is it really more commercial? I am not sure of the UK Charts, and, apparently BM DOES show up at the Norwegian Grammys, but in the US, they won't move more than 10,000 units. (Satyricon's Volcano moved 7,500, I believe, in North America). I guess one's perspective on 'commercial' might be largely dependent upon their postal code.

If anything, I think it's a furhter step away from commercialism, in a round about way. They will never get regular play (at least not on this side of the pond) and they just raised a middle finger to piss off the stagnant BM scenesters.

The album might and single are probably not likely to bring them too many new fans, but might piss off a chunk of their old "fans" (you know the ones - those who don't like and bash everything they've released since Zephyrous left).

As for the "we'll never release a single" bit- as I stated before, opinions change. I don't view the single as the end of the world because they wen't back on their word - instead, their change in stance enabled me to enjoy a cover of a Siouxsie and the Banshees song I probably never would have heard otherwise.

I agree totally. Darkthrone existed simply to express themselves in a non-mainstream way, and now that the so-called kvlt BM is getting mainstream, they decided to move away from that area, stay true to themselves, and release exactly what they wanted to, not what their label or fans wanted them to.

And it's for that reason that I think it's wrong to say the newer style is more commercial, even though it may sound more accessible.

Shut Up, Shut Up
I'll stick to my guns while you stick to yours
Sit Down
Let's not pretend that I'll have to use force
Are you Satan?
I don't think so
You Copy my style
And you call yourself a man.

You want a piece of me?
Yeah... you do
Begging for this and asking for that
Shut Up, Fucking Twat

Shut Up Fucking Twat

Shut Up Shut Up
I'll stick to my guns
Now you stick to yours
Sit Down
Let's not pretend
That I'll have to use force
Are you satan?
I don't think so
You copy my style
And call yourself a man

Never could fathom my hate
Unable to take a hint
You haven't got a clue
Satanism is lost on you.

By taking away some segments of this song this could have been easily written by 50 Cent. lol

Come on, Darth Satanious, those lyrics are just great. lol

Are you Satan?

Written by [user id=13985] on 14.08.2006 at 14:45

Do you people like the Darkthrone's death metal era?

I do. I am a fan of 'Soulside Journey' and have only seen it once in a store and never again. I would love to find it. It truly showed that the band was indeed talented, but they just wanted to create a different kind of music.

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

Written by Clintagräm on 16.08.2006 at 00:34

Written by [user id=13985] on 14.08.2006 at 14:45

Do you people like the Darkthrone's death metal era?

I do. I am a fan of 'Soulside Journey' and have only seen it once in a store and never again. I would love to find it. It truly showed that the band was indeed talented, but they just wanted to create a different kind of music.

Try TheEnd records. Looks like they got distribution rights in the States and I have seen a lot of Darkthrone albums showing up at hte local stores... and never for more than $12 or so.

http://shopping.theendrecords.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4822/.f?sc=10&category=12

Written by BitterCOld on 16.08.2006 at 01:34


Try TheEnd records. Looks like they got distribution rights in the States and I have seen a lot of Darkthrone albums showing up at hte local stores... and never for more than $12 or so.

http://shopping.theendrecords.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4822/.f?sc=10&category=12

A funny thing in swedish stores atleast around where I live, is that in the "popular music shops" you can find all the mainstream music (ofc..) and when you go to the metal section you se = Slipknot , metallica , megadeth , darkthrone...

I aint kiddin. Darkthrone is in every god damn shop around here ^^ its rather funny since I always thought Darkthrone was atleast trying to be underground ^^

Written by Lucas on 16.08.2006 at 00:36

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

No of course, evrything will appear more intelligent than something written from him. lol It's just that all that: I am better than you, you suck, etc. attitudes are very characteristic of Rap.

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 01:59

Written by Lucas on 16.08.2006 at 00:36

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

No of course, evrything will appear more intelligent than something written from him. lol It's just that all that: I am better than you, you suck, etc. attitudes are very characteristic of Rap.

Elitism is also an aspect of BM...

Written by BitterCOld on 16.08.2006 at 02:15

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 01:59

Written by Lucas on 16.08.2006 at 00:36

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

No of course, evrything will appear more intelligent than something written from him. lol It's just that all that: I am better than you, you suck, etc. attitudes are very characteristic of Rap.

Elitism is also an aspect of BM...

Yes, I would even say inside Metal in general but there is a way of expressing that feeling in a more intelligent way, such as mentioning reasons of why they believe they are better and so forth. The way they express themselves is very similar to that in Rap, when they claim superiority without trying to explain well the reason why, more like looking for confrontation and to challenge.

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 02:31

Written by BitterCOld on 16.08.2006 at 02:15

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 01:59

Written by Lucas on 16.08.2006 at 00:36

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

No of course, evrything will appear more intelligent than something written from him. lol It's just that all that: I am better than you, you suck, etc. attitudes are very characteristic of Rap.

Elitism is also an aspect of BM...

Yes, I would even say inside Metal in general but there is a way of expressing that feeling in a more intelligent way, such as mentioning reasons of why they believe they are better and so forth. The way they express themselves is very similar to that in Rap, when they claim superiority without trying to explain well the reason why, more like looking for confrontation and to challenge.

Am I the only person here who seems to think that Darkthrone aren't claiming supremecy for themselves but are making fun of all of those who do? Or is that what you all were shooting for?

I'm with you C-Dub. But I also think that Darkthrone have the right to claim supremacy!

Written by Clintagräm on 16.08.2006 at 02:48

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 02:31

Written by BitterCOld on 16.08.2006 at 02:15

Written by Darth Satanious on 16.08.2006 at 01:59

Written by Lucas on 16.08.2006 at 00:36

@Darth.

I was thinking the exact same. But still, coming from them, it sounds more 'intelligent'. In some way.

No of course, evrything will appear more intelligent than something written from him. lol It's just that all that: I am better than you, you suck, etc. attitudes are very characteristic of Rap.

Elitism is also an aspect of BM...

Yes, I would even say inside Metal in general but there is a way of expressing that feeling in a more intelligent way, such as mentioning reasons of why they believe they are better and so forth. The way they express themselves is very similar to that in Rap, when they claim superiority without trying to explain well the reason why, more like looking for confrontation and to challenge.

Am I the only person here who seems to think that Darkthrone aren't claiming supremecy for themselves but are making fun of all of those who do? Or is that what you all were shooting for?

I don't know, if they are being sarcastic I would need something to detect it or realize it like reading or watching an interview from them in which they let us see that. I have not seen anything like that.

I remember reading an old interview when they're discussing this, but I don't remember where. :/

Well, I am just basing it on my own instincts with people these days, Darkthrone's "new" attitude, and the comical relief of both Fenriz and Noctruno. I could be wrong though.

There were always joking about everything. From all the video interviews I saw, and the ones I've read, I can tell that these guys has a great sense of humor.

If that is the case we can only see it as a possibility. I remember something though, in this documentary I saw Nocturno saying that old bands make "bread" referring to the old raw Black Metal and that he understood that some may get tired of that and decide to make "cake" (referring to bands adding synth to Black Metal) and that they could get tired of cake too. So I get that sense of humor you talk about. Now, he seemed to not mind other bands playing style so I don't know.

Darkthrone are one of my top black metal bands

Transilvanian Hunger IMO is one of the finest blackmetal albums ever

Darkthrone is a band I never really enjoyed. Sure, a song here, a song there, but I still fail to see the all the greatness in their music. They bore me quite. The BM I listen to has developed into the opposite direction. I mean, I still enjoy some Gorgoroth, Burzum and Immortal, but neither Darkthrone, nor Mayhem were ever able to receive my full attention.

I'd like someone to explain why Darkthrone is so great in their opinion. To be honest, I haven't really given "Soulside Journey" a chance yet, is it so different to their other, early works?