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Don't wanna point fingers, but some users/reviewers here should really have a look at this article.
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I think the teen lesbian link is directing to the wrong place...
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Written by Karlabos on 03.07.2015 at 03:44
I think the teen lesbian link is directing to the wrong place...
Works fine for me.
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Written by Karlabos on 03.07.2015 at 03:44
I think the teen lesbian link is directing to the wrong place...
Turn parental control off in your browser settings.
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Nice article. I think replay value is one of the key factors because it summarizes most aspects and the final rating. Also I'd never felt like rating = (sum of them all)/4, I'd rather put like 40% songwriting, 30% performance, 20% production and 10% originality. But even that doesn't apply in most cases, final rating is a rather free parameter.
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Sometimes when I am giving a final score, it seems like it does end up being around the average of the 4 scores. I never mean this though, it's just how it happens. I think averaging those scores is pointless because is production more important than originality? Or is songwriting more important than performance? Final score should just be how the album ratings system tends to work; pure shit up to perfect.
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Written by Belegûr on 03.07.2015 at 15:06
Sometimes when I am giving a final score, it seems like it does end up being around the average of the 4 scores. I never mean this though, it's just how it happens. I think averaging those scores is pointless because is production more important than originality? Or is songwriting more important than performance? Final score should just be how the album ratings system tends to work; pure shit up to perfect.
Usually I do actually score albums around what the average of those ratings would be. Just because it kind of makes sense and is really a bit inevitable... if you think those four areas on the album are excellent, you're probably gonna give the album an excellent rating. If you think they're shit, you're probably going to give it a shit rating. But of course, you're overall rating doesn't have to be an exact average by any means. And quite frankly, if someone starts throwing a fit about how I gave an album an 8 when the average of those four scores is an 8.5 or a 9 or something therearound, I'm gonna tell them to fuck right off
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 03.07.2015 at 16:13
Written by Belegûr on 03.07.2015 at 15:06
Sometimes when I am giving a final score, it seems like it does end up being around the average of the 4 scores. I never mean this though, it's just how it happens. I think averaging those scores is pointless because is production more important than originality? Or is songwriting more important than performance? Final score should just be how the album ratings system tends to work; pure shit up to perfect.
Usually I do actually score albums around what the average of those ratings would be. Just because it kind of makes sense and is really a bit inevitable... if you think those four areas on the album are excellent, you're probably gonna give the album an excellent rating. If you think they're shit, you're probably going to give it a shit rating. But of course, you're overall rating doesn't have to be an exact average by any means. And quite frankly, if someone starts throwing a fit about how I gave an album an 8 when the average of those four scores is an 8.5 or a 9 or something therearound, I'm gonna tell them to fuck right off 
Yeah I've had complaints about giving an album a 7 for originality. A 7 is good!
You are right about the averages of course. If all 4 scores are high then it shows you liked the album. I still like to think of the score on it's own though and try not to get worked up about what I gave it in those categories. I gave Powerwolfs album a 6.9 even though Production, Songwriting and Performance were 10, 7 and 8 ( I think ). This was simply because originality was so low and I felt that was an important issue in terms of my enjoyment of the album.
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Written by Windrider on 03.07.2015 at 12:54
Nice article. I think replay value is one of the key factors because it summarizes most aspects and the final rating. Also I'd never felt like rating = (sum of them all)/4, I'd rather put like 40% songwriting, 30% performance, 20% production and 10% originality. But even that doesn't apply in most cases, final rating is a rather free parameter.
That ^^^
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I agree with everything I read. But can I ask, Craig, is there a specific reason behind the publication of this article? Haven't been too much around the forum lately.
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Written by Ilham on 04.07.2015 at 00:08
I agree with everything I read. But can I ask, Craig, is there a specific reason behind the publication of this article? Haven't been too much around the forum lately.
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Just the same questions seem to come up again and again on reviews, we figured worth an article/explanation and i do so love writing those.
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And I do so love reading those.
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Wouldn't it make sense to unite the "Originality" and "Songwriting" categories or have "Originality" as s sub-category for "Songwriting" (which is also how I've usually interpreted the scores. The review itself is the most important though but sometimes stuff not covered in review is shown in the score.)? I'm asking because it seems to me that everything "Originality" encompasses is also present in "Songwriting".
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Written by Charly546 on 04.07.2015 at 13:09
Wouldn't it make sense to unite the "Originality" and "Songwriting" categories or have "Originality" as s sub-category for "Songwriting" (which is also how I've usually interpreted the scores. The review itself is the most important though but sometimes stuff not covered in review is shown in the score.)? I'm asking because it seems to me that everything "Originality" encompasses is also present in "Songwriting".
Nahh.. Originality is originality and songwriting is songwriting.
Originality is the ability to come up with fresh ideas in a world where everyone are copycats.
Songwriting is the ability of write memorable songs, to make a song sufficiently distinct from the others and so on. Why would one be a subcategory of the other?
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Written by Charly546 on 04.07.2015 at 13:09
Wouldn't it make sense to unite the "Originality" and "Songwriting" categories or have "Originality" as s sub-category for "Songwriting" (which is also how I've usually interpreted the scores. The review itself is the most important though but sometimes stuff not covered in review is shown in the score.)? I'm asking because it seems to me that everything "Originality" encompasses is also present in "Songwriting".
absolutely baffled by this.
they are vastly different concepts. you can craft a great batch of songs without being original. you can craft "original" songs without them being remotely good.
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Written by Karlabos on 04.07.2015 at 15:49
Written by Charly546 on 04.07.2015 at 13:09
Wouldn't it make sense to unite the "Originality" and "Songwriting" categories or have "Originality" as s sub-category for "Songwriting" (which is also how I've usually interpreted the scores. The review itself is the most important though but sometimes stuff not covered in review is shown in the score.)? I'm asking because it seems to me that everything "Originality" encompasses is also present in "Songwriting".
Nahh.. Originality is originality and songwriting is songwriting.
Originality is the ability to come up with fresh ideas in a world where everyone are copycats.
Songwriting is the ability of write memorable songs, to make a song sufficiently distinct from the others and so on. Why would one be a subcategory of the other?
Yeah, I didn't really think that one through (it's not internally consistent), sorry about that. The heat must be getting to me.
The main idea was that while originality could be considered the "quality" of the ideas used to write a song and how they'd be used while songwriting is the whole process of writing a song - coming up with ideas and how to use them, then using them and judging whether they do work (as in achieve the intended sound/effect) in the context of a song.
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Written by Charly546 on 04.07.2015 at 17:01
Yeah, I didn't really think that one through (it's not internally consistent), sorry about that. The heat must be getting to me.
The main idea was that while originality could be considered the "quality" of the ideas used to write a song and how they'd be used while songwriting is the whole process of writing a song - coming up with ideas and how to use them, then using them and judging whether they do work (as in achieve the intended sound/effect) in the context of a song.
I see. You were thinking of originality when it comes to write a song then... Yeah, it would fit as a subcategory.
But the term here (I think) is originality on a more abrasive way, originality on the album concept, on the genre played and so on, which don't have much to do with the songwriting per se. This way, as Bittercold said it is possible to have lots of original ideas but still writing a crap of a song as well as the opposite is also possible.
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This article:
Performance: 8
Songwriting: 0
Originality: 9.5
Production: 5
Overall: 2/10...would not bang
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Fun read  Also, can't agree more with what some others have said, it's a good tip for people who want to write reviews.
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