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A wonderful memory trip way back to one of the best moments of metal who coincided with (or helped bring out) some of the best moments of our lives.Indeed ,in Heavy Metal there's the Before Painkiller and the After Painkiller Era.Thank you Judas Priest !!!
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What a way to come back from vacation. I loved reading this; even for a band like Judas Priest, about whom all that can be said has already been said, you can still get something from hearing about people's personal experiences. I had a similar reaction when I heard "Painkiller" for the first time - I was a couple of years younger than you (some years apart, obviously), and it was the heaviest thing I'd ever heard. The only Priest album I had was British Steel and that was still very early into my relationship with metal (I mean, it was early into my life), so, needless to say, I was stunned by this song that completely defied all precedent. I did not spend enough time on the internet at that point to avail myself of the various channels for finding music, so it was actually a while before I heard the album in full, but that one song quickly became and has remained an important benchmark for me, and I couldn't tell you how many times I watched that video just to see all the black-and-white shredding and listen to those incredible drums and screams. Those songs were my "heaviest ever" playlist for a while, and they've become my driving music, my stereo-testing music, my casual background music, my happy music, my sad music, and my super-action-power playlist for the one or two times a year when I actually do something cool.
I'm a couple of generations behind you, so I've missed out completely on some of those ancient rituals, and the fatigue of having so much music thrown at you from every angle now is unfortunately real; I couldn't tell you how many times I raced through the MSAs just to hit everything and thought, "Boy, if I could listen to this twice at my own pace I'd probably like it a lot, but I have 50 more albums this week." Of course there's still a lot of stuff that stands out and I love having all of this great music around, but I do wonder quite often how many potential favorites I'm letting pass me by just because I don't have the time to let them develop.
I have to say, though, I really felt those last couple of paragraphs. Reading this article actually made me excited to get older just so I can deepen my relationship with the albums (and other works of art) that have personal meaning to me. Getting excited about the prospect of turning 44 for any reason at all is kind of bonkers to me because I can't get excited about surviving into next week, so, seriously, thank you for sharing this (and that great quote from Rob). Even though I'm only 26, Judas Priest has already become one of those time capsules for me, so I look forward to finding out just what it will be like to listen to them years and years from now.
And Firepower is so, so good.
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 03.09.2020 at 02:04
one of those time capsules
You don't have to be in a hurry to reach 40-something (I'm the age of THE answer, btw), but be sure that as long as you'll listen to music, you'll be creating some of those time capsules. Hell, the latest I can recognize features Disillusion's The Liberation, which, well, still isn't a year old.
But yeah, team " Iron Maiden at high school" here, with loads of Nirvana and Sepultura too. Never knew MTV even existed back then, but we had a radio show on one of the mainstream stations here in France that had a mostly metal show for (on sundays from midnight to 1AM, so I often had to pretend I went to sleep... you know the drill  ). I discovered Therapy? ("Nowhere", of course) and Faith No More ("Digging The Grave") thanks to them, but I'm not sure I heard any Judas Priest. But I still remember discovering the cover while inschool anyway 
Ah... High School, good times indeed. Even if I don't share your link with Painkiller (I guess the first time I listened to it in full was in Uni), thanks for the trip down memory lane
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You mean you could just buy music back in the day without having to smuggle the good ones through Yugoslavia? You had it easy.
I probably would have even closer of a connection to this album instead of Screaming For Vengeance if it wasn't for two songs from the latter being in the V-Rock radio station in GTA Vice City and its prequel, which I've played to death in my early teens and were pretty much my introduction to metal.
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As you say, now it makes sense why boat of you and radu are good writers. Communism is fallen (@Radu Where Were You When The Red Star Fell) , borders are free, young romanian woman crossed Ro-Bul, Bul-Gre border and hang up whit young greek metalhead, then went home. This is hos Radu was born, nja Nik is Radu father.
@Nik have you been in Bolivia?
I am 35 so I miss a bit, but I did listen radio and make such tapes as well, I did watch BnB and headbangers ball on MTV. I did listen hacked satellite radio and and watched TV. (even Hellenic football in barbaric days), but I am happy we have i net. YT, BC, what ever, you can find good demo band, and so on, in that days we had a less bands but 80% were good, today we have 1000% more bands but less and harder find good bands what can be 50% of JP or Maiden.
I discovered most of bands thanks goth metal.net, doom metal.org, BNR pages. Then MS and MA; I am happy we have internet today.
I think this is most heavyset JP album , Ripper era was heavy but its better. 70's Priest was more bluesy rock n roll influenced, then British era short songs, fast songs, same motorbeat rythe, late 80's radio pop orianated same as Saxon, boat JP and Im firts 90's album was hevay but this is killer, good piece.
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Written by RaduP on 03.09.2020 at 08:36
You mean you could just buy music back in the day without having to smuggle the good ones through Yugoslavia? You had it easy.
I probably would have even closer of a connection to this album instead of Screaming For Vengeance if it wasn't for two songs from the latter being in the V-Rock radio station in GTA Vice City and its prequel, which I've played to death in my early teens and were pretty much my introduction to metal.
Yeah, You Got Another Thing Coming on Vice City was my introduction to the band. I think Painkiller was on Rock Band 2; I think for anyone who gets into metal mainly via 80s bands rather than 2000s bands, the first time you hear Painkiller the song is a watershed moment.
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I have always thought that this album embodied the genre of heavy metal. It's just straight forward and good. I listened to "Hell Patrol" while I cut the grass yesterday.
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Written by musclassia on 03.09.2020 at 13:02
Yeah, You Got Another Thing Coming on Vice City was my introduction to the band.
Same thing here, but very soon after I got the vinyl of Point of Entry which I enjoyed very much at like age 13 or something. 'Screaming' and 'Priest...Live!' followed, the former had impact but did not make me a fan. I heard Painkiller much later, and only a few songs besides the title track.. it took years somehow to sit down and check out all of it (and it was way into the internet age). Kind of felt dumb for not doing it earlier, it's massive. It's been with me ever since.
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Great return from your break and a rather nice, concise article in terms of length!
Honestly I'm more partial to 70s era Priest.... Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, and Stained Class are forever the cream of the crop for me. The later 80s - 90s material, while a little more radio and music video friendly and verse - chorus - verse oriented, is still definitely quite fun and great for what it is though, and Pankiller ended that chapter of the band on a fairly high note. I don't revisit this one quite as much as some of the other Priest albums I mentioned but Painkiller and Hell Patrol still get frequent plays on my iPhone when I'm speeding down the Interstate, for sure
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@SSUS: I actually wrote part of it while on vacation  Don't hurry too much to get older, I can tell you that I would give almost anything to be 26 again. Momo is right, as long as you listen to music you keep creating time capsules, however I find that the capsules of your youth are the ones that are more deeply engraved.
@BE: Nope, haven't been to Bolivia (yet). And I am definitely not Radu's dad, although I'd be proud if I were.
@Che: I totally get where you are coming from, I absolutely adore '70s Priest too.
Thanks for the input, you all! I was hoping that this article would give the incentive to people to give their own accounts on how they are connected with this album.
Yesterday this friend of mine who is mentioned in the article looked for and found the tape that has the radio recording of that "Painkiller" song premiere and played it to me over the phone. It's insane, he still has this tape with the 30 year-old recording and it's playable...
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Every once in a while I come back to MS to check if there is something interesting and what do you know? there I see an ode to possibly my favorite album from my favorite band!
pretty simply put, this album slams, and I struggle to come up with an album that comes close to its ferocity and quality - from JP's discography I guess it would be Firepower if omitting the last 2 tracks. I even wrote a super enthusiastic review for Painkiller here on MS, waaay back
Long live the inventors of heavy fucking metal, Judas Priest.
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I'm turning 40 in a week and I remember the first metal song I ever heard was actually Enter Sandman back in '91. A kid in school brought it recorded on a cassette and played it during recess. From there on I quickly discovered Pantera (still my favourite band) and of course Maiden and Priest. Even though Painkiller was released the year prior it was British Steel and Turbo that were the first two albums I heard from Priest.
These days the much hated Turbo is my favourite album (together with Painkiller) simply because it was the first I heard from Priest. And I absolutely love the severly underrated solo on Hot For Love. Although I know Painkiller is the far better, more metal album of the two I slightly more often find myself listening to Hot For Love, Reckless and Turbo Lover rather than Painkiller, Hell Patrol and Nightcrawler. And finally, the highlight on Painkiller for me is One Shot At Glory. Probably the most epic song Priest has made.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Great writing.
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The production is really good, and Tipton's lead are jaw-dropping, but I always thought the lyrics were insanely lame and superficial. I kinda miss Priest from the 70s in this department
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Written by Nejde on 05.09.2020 at 11:36
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Great writing. 
You're welcome and thanks for reading! I remember us having a similar discussion in the comments of my Turbo review. I agree 100% on the "Hot For Love" solo and you have chosen to mention the three tracks from that album that are listenable for me (along with "Out In The Cold"). "One Shot At Glory" is godlike indeed, I cannot explain why they have never played it live. It also took me many years and hundreds of replays to realize that its main riff is similar to the one of "Between The Hammer & The Anvil"
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Written by nikarg on 06.09.2020 at 11:01
"One Shot At Glory" is godlike indeed, I cannot explain why they have never played it live. It also took me many years and hundreds of replays to realize that its main riff is similar to the one of "Between The Hammer & The Anvil" 
Sadly I've never seen Judas live. Living in northern Sweden makes concert going quite expensive because you need to travel down to Stockholm or Gothenburg to see the biggest bands. But hey, at least I get to see Meshuggah and Cult of Luna on their (and my) home turf. And I've never thought about the similarities between the two songs. This calls for immediate investigation. Cheers!
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Nice read  "Leather Rebel" still blows me away with its double bass drumming and is my second favourite song from the album. "One Shot At Glory" is the best song on the album, and I have no idea why it's not legendary. It's far better than, (oh, blasphemy!) the title track which is just one awesome solo too long. By the way, the last time I saw Priest live was in June 2018, I was floored by how well Richie Faulkner played all solos in "Painkiller". If I closed my eyes, I could imagine it was one of the original guitartists. The whole concert was just magnificent, as were their other live performances that I saw (only 3, sadly).
Surprisingly, this is only my 4th favourite Priest album, after "Sad Wings of Destiny", "Stained Class", and "Hell Bent for Leather".
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Written by Valentin B on 04.09.2020 at 13:45
Every once in a while I come back to MS to check if there is something interesting and what do you know? there I see an ode to possibly my favorite album from my favorite band!
pretty simply put, this album slams, and I struggle to come up with an album that comes close to its ferocity and quality - from JP's discography I guess it would be Firepower if omitting the last 2 tracks. I even wrote a super enthusiastic review for Painkiller here on MS, waaay back
Long live the inventors of heavy fucking metal, Judas Priest.
Do tok youre back. You never should leave, same VenoMBM as well. How is life.
Nik so you never have datet Latinamerikan girl. So youre not Maco dad.
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Written by Daniell on 07.09.2020 at 15:20
Nice read 
Thanks
I also saw them live for the last time in July 2018, it was bizarre watching them on stage with Richie and Andy instead of Glenn and KK. They did alright though and I do believe that Richie actually saved Priest in the final years of their career. He is very talented, flashy, energetic and confident on stage and I think he is to be credited for Firepower being such a great record. However, I was not so happy with the band's overall performance, it felt too "clinical" and sort of "let's just do the show and go back to the hotel". I guess it happens after more than four decades on the road, there will be times when you won't be in the mood for yet another show. The fact that Saxon who played before them had already blown everyone's mind didn't help JP stand out either.
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Painkiller had an huge influence on me during my adolescent years. Wearing leather and having that mean biker attitude was a direct influence from this album, and their past discography, even Turbo Lover. Despite the fact that i prefer other albums like Sad Wings, Stained Class and Defenders, i would listen to Painkiller all day long on my walkman for weeks on end. It's definetly one of my fav metal albums ever. Painkiller finally showed to the world what JP could do in terms of intensity and "firepower". Heavy metal reached with Painkiller the peak of intensity and aggression, the band was intelligent in reading the signs in terms of what the heavy metal audience was digging. Fat meaty productions, high intensity, intrincate musician skill and a f¨*cking fast drummers. The album quickly became a 10/10, no weak songs, at least 5 obligatory best of metal songs of all time and one considered the definitive metal anthem. Unfortunately it stands as the ultimate metal album reminscent of the 80s. Together with Rust in Peace, both from 1990, are the tombstones for both 80's thrash and heavy metal. The reckless, limitless aggressive metal ended here and paved way to Metallica's black album, Megadeth's Youthanasia and Iron Maiden's Fear of the Dark. Metal was turning mainstream and Rob Halford left Priest.
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Judas Priest has a special place in my heart during the early years of being a metalhead. After years of not listening to their music I regained my love for Judas Priest and can say that I'm still a big fan of their music. The only band that I believe defined heavy metal music without incorporating elements of doom, prog, or punk music. Though they're are a few priest that I didn't necessarily hold in high regard that most people do (Stained Class, Sad Wings to Destiny), I still loved a lot of their albums.
Painkiller is my all time favorite Judas Priest album. No matter how many times I hear this album every song was fantastic one after another, and to me their heaviest and fastest album. Its an album that I still hold in high regard and an album with the greatest album artwork from any metal band. 30 years of Painkiller, a true metal masterpiece. \m/
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