benvolent
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29.10.2009 - 11:28Rating: 8
That is pretty much, what I expected: less time to compose - more easy and catchy songs...
good review!
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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I know the song "Hold the heathen hammer high" from Black Sails Over Europe split and i quite like it, though i admit it is exactly what you would call "easy and catchy song"
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Daggon Underpaid M.D.
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03.12.2009 - 03:25Rating: 7
DaggonUnderpaid M.D.Posts: 1689
Well this album dissapointed me a lot, they are good musicians, this band IMO have their very own sound, and the vocals are pretty solid, but the catchiness of the album is a downside, Ragnarok and Eric The Red are awesome albums. "Land" has a really great song totally different than the ones in this album (I'm talking about the song of the homonimous name, Land).
It's not a great album, but it's not crappy at all, just catchy and as you said on your review, repetitive.
Well, you went straight to the point. Good review.
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Uirapuru Liver Failure
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Well, after hearing a super boring ''Land'', this one almost sound like a masterpiece.
But the review was perfect, its a good release.
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MétalNoir Fils du Lys
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25.01.2010 - 21:19Rating: 8
Good review, it respects different points of view. Myself, I think this is Tyr catchiest album to date, but that's mainly cause I'm not a prog fan and prefer faster metal. And yes, Faeroese lyrics are great, "Trondur i Gotu" rocks!
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Skøllgrim Northern
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25.02.2010 - 14:41Rating: 7
What really bothered me and I can't understand is why they chose Hold the heathen hammer high as their music video and song to sort of represent their album (as seen on the black sails over Europe CD) I think that song (+ Northern gate, which also was on the black sails over Europe CD) is such weaker tracks than everything featured on this CD (In my opinion)... As for the album, I like the introduction of more aggression and speed, seeing how they pull it off so smoothly, it just feels nice with some variation and shows a new side by the band. Great addition of tracks and variation in sound for coming tours and albums. I particularly like the vocal performance on this record.
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Ernis 狼獾
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Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 14:41
What really bothered me and I can't understand is why they chose Hold the heathen hammer high as their music video and song to sort of represent their album
I think the same... this song and more so the video of it are very corny... It seems like some expression of "teenage rebellion"... They can create culturally higher level stuff...
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Skøllgrim Northern
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25.02.2010 - 22:03Rating: 7
Written by Ernis on 25.02.2010 at 20:36
Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 14:41
What really bothered me and I can't understand is why they chose Hold the heathen hammer high as their music video and song to sort of represent their album
I think the same... this song and more so the video of it are very corny... It seems like some expression of "teenage rebellion"... They can create culturally higher level stuff...
Exactly what I was onto, its just straight forward and cheesy and there's such a big crowd of people who love that cheesy, easy and in my opinion sucky kind of folk music.... Týr has always been the kind of folk / Viking or whatever kind of band that always stayed "true". They have always given an authentic feel, strong melodies, lyrics, doing their own thing... not floating on this folk metal wave thingy, because its cool or fun or selling good.... *Caugh Korpiklaani caugh*
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Ernis 狼獾
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Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 22:03
Exactly what I was onto, its just straight forward and cheesy and there's such a big crowd of people who love that cheesy, easy and in my opinion sucky kind of folk music.... Týr has always been the kind of folk / Viking or whatever kind of band that always stayed "true". They have always given an authentic feel, strong melodies, lyrics, doing their own thing... not floating on this folk metal wave thingy, because its cool or fun or selling good.... *Caugh Korpiklaani caugh*
True... that's what "folk" is for lots of people... just some average rock/metal with ENGLISH lyrics about "Pagan Pride/Fight for FREEDOM/Kill the Christians and/or Raise the BEER!/Drink more MEAD!/Let's hang around in VALHALLA!/I Masturbate thinking about Valkyrs!"
Folk elements are optional... it's ok to add some accordion and violins but it can be generic metal too... what matters are the lyrics (the cornier, the better) and the viking CLOTHES...
I am glad about Tyr because they have always represented the proud and beautiful nature of their culture without crossing any borders (except now)... If I want to hear some, let's say, viking metal, I want to hear music with Scandinavian folk instruments in Scandinavian languages... if I want to hear Celtic folk, I want to hear the genuine celtic instruments and the sound of a Celtic language...
It is sad that in 90% of cases I only get some average metal band with cliché lyrics in ENGLISH and some folk colouring too which sadly disappears into the generic atmosphere...
Korpiklaani...yes... I understand what you mean... lots of people love them nevertheless... because they are easy...
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Skøllgrim Northern
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25.02.2010 - 22:21Rating: 7
Written by Ernis on 25.02.2010 at 22:13
Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 22:03
Exactly what I was onto, its just straight forward and cheesy and there's such a big crowd of people who love that cheesy, easy and in my opinion sucky kind of folk music.... Týr has always been the kind of folk / Viking or whatever kind of band that always stayed "true". They have always given an authentic feel, strong melodies, lyrics, doing their own thing... not floating on this folk metal wave thingy, because its cool or fun or selling good.... *Caugh Korpiklaani caugh*
True... that's what "folk" is for lots of people... just some average rock/metal with ENGLISH lyrics about "Pagan Pride/Fight for FREEDOM/Kill the Christians and/or Raise the BEER!/Drink more MEAD!/Let's hang around in VALHALLA!/I Masturbate thinking about Valkyrs!"
Folk elements are optional... it's ok to add some accordion and violins but it can be generic metal too... what matters are the lyrics (the cornier, the better) and the viking CLOTHES...
I am glad about Tyr because they have always represented the proud and beautiful nature of their culture without crossing any borders (except now)... If I want to hear some, let's say, viking metal, I want to hear music with Scandinavian folk instruments in Scandinavian languages... if I want to hear Celtic folk, I want to hear the genuine celtic instruments and the sound of a Celtic language...
It is sad that in 90% of cases I only get some average metal band with cliché lyrics in ENGLISH and some folk colouring too which sadly disappears into the generic atmosphere...
Korpiklaani...yes... I understand what you mean... lots of people love them nevertheless... because they are easy...
You expressed my very thoughts. I very much agree with pretty much everything you say. Nonetheless there's few bands I appreciate that play with other instruments than typical metal instruments (guitar melody oriented) music like Korpiklaani, Eluveitie, Turisas, even bands that rely heavily on keyboard (Partly Finntroll) pisses me off.... This isn't a black and white "rule" for me, as I think Moonsorrow is quite decent, so is the violin-playing in Ásmegin's first record etc.
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Ernis 狼獾
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Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 22:21
music like Korpiklaani, Eluveitie, Turisas, even bands that rely heavily on keyboard (Partly Finntroll) pisses me off.... This isn't a black and white "rule" for me, as I think moonsorrow is quite decent, so is the violin-playing in Ásmegin's first record etc.
Of Eluveitie I like their songs in Gaulish and the antique melodies they use in some songs... their acoustic album had this (and it was not very popular among the FANS)... but now they're doing their usual "folk" gothenburg (with English lyrics and no acoustic elements nor other Celtic references) and the fans love it...
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Skøllgrim Northern
Posts: 389 |
25.02.2010 - 22:50Rating: 7
Written by Ernis on 25.02.2010 at 22:27
Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 22:21
music like Korpiklaani, Eluveitie, Turisas, even bands that rely heavily on keyboard (Partly Finntroll) pisses me off.... This isn't a black and white "rule" for me, as I think Moonsorrow is quite decent, so is the violin-playing in Ásmegin's first record etc...
Of Eluveitie I like their songs in Gaulish and the antique melodies they use in some songs... their acoustic album had this (and it was not very popular among the FANS)... but now they're doing their usual "folk" gothenburg (with English lyrics and no acoustic elements nor other Celtic references) and the fans love it...
I have not listened that much to (Eluveitie) to separate their albums all that much, but I've listened quick through it and seen them live once. Anyway, thank God music-taste variates ... Elvenking is another folk band I enjoy a lot!
I'm off to bed g'night! (I just noticed how off-topic this thread has gotten :O)
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Marcus Doit Like Bernie
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MarcusDoit Like BerniePosts: 642
Written by Ernis on 25.02.2010 at 22:27
Written by Skøllgrim on 25.02.2010 at 22:21
music like Korpiklaani, Eluveitie, Turisas, even bands that rely heavily on keyboard (Partly Finntroll) pisses me off.... This isn't a black and white "rule" for me, as I think moonsorrow is quite decent, so is the violin-playing in Ásmegin's first record etc.
Of Eluveitie I like their songs in Gaulish and the antique melodies they use in some songs... their acoustic album had this (and it was not very popular among the FANS)... but now they're doing their usual "folk" gothenburg (with English lyrics and no acoustic elements nor other Celtic references) and the fans love it...
Glad someone feels the same way that I do about Eluveitie, their strict folk music is actually very good, but I hate how they soil it with their gothenburg.
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cjs675
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I'm so impressed with this album, Tyr's blend of melody and power is a treat. Although I don't usually care for clean vocals, everything on this album just "works".
Lyrics are sincere and moving without being too Manowar-ish or pretentious, riffs are not overly simplistic but still great fun.
There are no bad songs on BTLOTNS, and if I absolutely had to pick a couple of favorites, "Into the Storm" and "By the Light of the Northern Star" would be contenders.
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akvan
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05.09.2010 - 17:55Rating: 7
I like 1st and 7th tracks of this album but other tracks ....
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RavenKing
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Written by Ernis on 25.02.2010 at 22:13
True... that's what "folk" is for lots of people... just some average rock/metal with ENGLISH lyrics about "Pagan Pride/Fight for FREEDOM/Kill the Christians and/or Raise the BEER!/Drink more MEAD!/Let's hang around in VALHALLA!/I Masturbate thinking about Valkyrs!"
Folk elements are optional... it's ok to add some accordion and violins but it can be generic metal too... what matters are the lyrics (the cornier, the better) and the viking CLOTHES...
It is sad that in 90% of cases I only get some average metal band with cliché lyrics in ENGLISH and some folk colouring too which sadly disappears into the generic atmosphere...
That's how I see Folk Metal in general: generic (and often quite mediocre) barely-metal music for the masses with folk-ish instruments thrown in awkwardly, in a desperate hope to hide the mediocrity and genericness of guitars, bass and drums. Commercial shit that has little in common with metal.
And yes, cliched lyrics and image. It seems the more cliched and cheesy it is, the more popular it will be.
I think we're dealing with the same situation here than with so-called Symphonic Metal, where bands use overblown orchestral shit to try to hide the mediocrity and genericness of the metal part (guitars, bass and drums).
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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Aetherius
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06.09.2010 - 08:44Rating: 8
I thought this was a great release. Good album , needs more credit
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Into the Storm had me singing along to the chorus. Any song that can do that is epic xD
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HeathenHeart
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03.07.2013 - 11:42Rating: 10
Wow...most of the comments here are pathetic, clearly these reviewers are not true fans of Viking Metal. Anyway, this is probably my favorite Tyr album just because every song is intense and relevant. Compared to the album that follows, this album is true to their beliefs as Heathens; especially lyrically speaking. Very high-energy album with not too many slow-tempo songs. For alot of true Heathens such as myself, 'Hold the Heathen Hammer High' speaks to us and is arguably our anthem!
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Hold the Heathen Hammer Highest of all your goals
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tintinb
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08.08.2023 - 21:14Rating: 8
Tyr's choruses are so catchy, always gets me singing.
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