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Posted by Icewings on 22.05.2006 at 02:56
Well as you might know , I love and respect music to the fullest ... I think that classical music is one of the most important types of music , thanks to them many forms and kind of notation develope , and well the influences even in modern music are clear ..I think classical music is amazing .. and well I love the all from early early classical music to modern , I think there's great composer :Mozart,Vivaldi,debussy,Monteveri in others ...

So let's discuss your opinions on classical music ..



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IronAngel

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Age: 25
From: Finland

  17.03.2011 at 18:26
Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.03.2011 at 16:42


It's a known fact that all musicians, not just ones within the metal scene, take influence from and even use classical music in their songwriting process. Sometimes it's only a few seconds, a minute - sometimes it's a carbon copy of the original version as an intro or interlude or outro...you name it.

And there's a reason why. While I don't necessarily like classical music, I definitely understand its complexity. Musicians this day and age simply cannot create anything that outdoes the majesty of classical music.

For instance, The Beatles are considered a "classic band". On the metal side of things, people hear "classic band" and think Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin for hard rock...

Now compare any of their songs to say...something written by Beethoven? Bach? Rachmaninoff? Vivaldi? Dvorak? The list goes on, and modern musicianship continues to pale in comparison.

/rant


I wager a bigger reason is that the tunes are familiar, respected rather universally and, most importantly, public domain. Borrowing some classical composer also gives you an air of musical legitimacy.

I don't agree with your analysis of modern music, anyway. Even before listening to any music for comparison, it seems immediately suspicious that humans would have somehow changed in the last few centuries and lost their ability to compose and arrange complex, skilled and beautiful music. That seems so uncredible that it's better to look for other explanations.

First, there's the issue of volume. The classical composers we look up to are a handful of stand-outs from a period of half a millenia. It stands to reason the average skill of recording artists in the last half a century isn't quite up to the same standards. Especially in a day when anyone can make music.

Secondly, there's the issue of genres: you gave examples of popular music. It's hardly fair to compare the complexity of a blues-based four-piece band like Black Sabbath whose fame is based on pioneering a sound and atmosphere to a symphony arranged for a 100-piece orchestra.

This extends to modern art (or "classical") music as well. The trend of the 20th and 21st centuries has been to go for a minimalistic aesthetic. The greatest composers of our time, like Arvo Pärt, Steve Reich, Philip Glass or John Cage have taken modern approaches to their music and never intended to write anything like Mozart. I have no doubt they wouldn't have been able to, had they wanted. Off the top of my head, I can't imagine many classical pieces more breathtaking than Pärt's Fratres, Glass's Einstein On The Beach or Reich's Drumming, Electric Counterpoint or Music For 18 Musicians. People like Astor Piazolla and Kimmo Pohjonen make very innovative things with their instruments. And then there are dozens of younger composers who haven't reached huge fame but have composed plenty of amazing film soundtracks, music for contemporary dance and traditional solo albums. Max Richter, Peter Broderick, Johann Johannsson, Gavin Bryars etc.

So yeah, I don't think music was any better before. It's true that you won't hear too much music like Mozart, Haydn or Bach from modern composers, but that's due to trends in style and aesthetic, not any lack of skill and potential in modern composers.
Gurth Bennas

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From: Iran

  20.03.2011 at 12:45
Before I like metal I was a great fan of Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi etc (of course I'm still prejudiced). even I have a blog about classical musics but it's in persian and you can see its address in my profile. I like 4 seasons of vivaldi and almost every music(masterpieces) of Mozart and Beethoven.
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Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

(One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them)
Yasmine

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From: USA

  23.03.2011 at 05:13
LOVE IT, Vivaldi being some of my favorite stuff any genre, ever.
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute." G B Stern
"Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum float u
Hamon

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From: Anguilla
  23.03.2011 at 08:53
Hmm its really nice dude. I love it a lot.
bloodwrage
Pagan Angel

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Age: 27
From: USA
  25.03.2011 at 04:54
I'm just getting into Sibelius. I've been listening to a lot of Eastern European classical and metal music lately. It is sort of awesome of how well they go together.
Void Eater
Crunkcore Fan

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  25.03.2011 at 05:07
Would somebody be generous enough to reccomend some classical composers that write fast, minor key music, preferably as part of a symphony of some sort?
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Sophist

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Age: 22
From: Serbia

  16.04.2011 at 20:15
Beethoven is my favorite so far.
Aluminum Alloy

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Age: 21
From: USA

  09.05.2011 at 19:37
There's a lot of love for the old stuff here (and duly warranted), but what do you guys think of neoclassical?

Olafur Arnalds' Eulogy for Evolution blew me away when I got it a few months ago
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Here at the edge of this world
Here I gaze at a pantheon of oak, a citadel of stone
If this grand panorama before me is what you call God...
Then God is not dead
IronAngel

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Age: 25
From: Finland

  09.05.2011 at 23:14
Written by Aluminum Alloy on 09.05.2011 at 19:37

There's a lot of love for the old stuff here (and duly warranted), but what do you guys think of neoclassical?

Olafur Arnalds' Eulogy for Evolution blew me away when I got it a few months ago


Going to advertise my topic:
Ambient/Drone/Modern Classical

I like Olafur Arnalds. Not my favorite by a long shot, but he's solid stuff. For new stuff you might appreciate, check out NOW Ensemble's Awake and Julia Kent's Green And Grey, off the top of my head. There are other good albums this year, too. Gotta get back to you on that.
Wraith000

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Age: 24
From: Pakistan

  28.12.2012 at 16:57
Making a list of classical covers or tributes in metal
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=2699

any suggestions / recommendations welcome
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Jaeryd17‍
Desert Mouse

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Age: 23
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  22.01.2013 at 09:33
Written by Void Eater on 25.03.2011 at 05:07

Would somebody be generous enough to reccomend some classical composers that write fast, minor key music, preferably as part of a symphony of some sort?

I don't know of any composer that does only that, but I think you might enjoy this song:



You may also be interested to know that the lyrics translate roughly to:
"When the accused are confounded,
and doomed to flames of woe,
call me among the blessed.

I kneel with submissive heart,
my contrition is like ashes,
help me in my final condition."
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"It is not your sin—it is your self-satisfaction that crieth unto heaven; your very sparingness in sin crieth unto heaven!

Where is the lightning to lick you with its tongue? Where is the frenzy with which ye should be inoculated?"

Unhealer
Eclectisist

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Age: 23
From: Argentina

  02.02.2013 at 05:35
Does anyone have in mind any good album/compilation with guitar-driven classical music? More specifically, some mediterranean-like tunes.
If it's not completely guitar-driven but it's really good I can take the recommendation as well

Something like this:
Khaldi

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Age: 25
From: Armenia

  11.03.2013 at 11:52
Aram Khachaturian is an Soviet-Armenian composer , his powerful symphonies closer to metal i think my favorite works from him is

Symphony N3 (Symphony Poema) 1947

#part1


#part2


Sympony N2 (The Bells) 1943


Triumphal Poema 1950
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Urartu is a NeoHittite and ProtoArmenian kingdom !!
kallis222

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From: Canada
  21.08.2013 at 17:48
Hello guys..I am new at this forum..I want to become musician but i am have no idea that where i can go for learn the music classes.At the end i decide to learn online classes of the music you peoples help me and tell me that which is the best online learn site...Thanks
Private QT Fan

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From: USA

  10.10.2013 at 11:58
Anybody a fan of Debussy? I'm currently listening to Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun.
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"You travel within the glory of my memories, insect. I can feel your fear as you tread the endless expanse of my mind. Make yourself comfortable... before long I will decorate my home with your carcass."
Akram

Posts: 359

Age: 27
From: Egypt

  25.07.2014 at 16:04



English translation:


In the hothouse

High-vaulted crowns of leaves,
Canopies of emerald,
You children of distant zones,
Tell me, why do you lament?

Silently you bend your branches,
Draw signs in the air,
And the mute witness to your anguish -
A sweet fragrance - rises.

In desirous longing, wide
You open your arms,
And embrace through insane predilection
The desolate, empty, horrible void.

I know well, poor plants,
A fate that we share,
Though we bathe in light and radiance,
Our homeland is not here!

And how gladly the sun departs
From the empty gleam of the day,
He veils himself, he who suffers truly,
In the darkness of silence.

It becomes quiet, a whispered stirring
Fills uneasily the dark room:
Heavy drops I see hovering
On the green edge of the leaves.

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To die, to be really dead, that must be glorious!
There are far worse things awaiting man than death.

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