A very pleasant surprise, a solid album, the music reminds me of Icon, I felt really good listening to this. I think this album is better than all post '95 releases. One of the best 2009 albums for me.

Favorite album of 2009.

Great Album !!!!!! is all i can say. Very Melancholy, and cant wait for the tour in February 5th here in Australia at Billboard.

Best 2009 gothic album! by far...

Written by Deadmeat on 07.01.2010 at 20:40

Best 2009 gothic album! by far...

Lol. How could you call this gothic album! It's Doom/Death maybe some gothic elements in it

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 11:23

Written by Deadmeat on 07.01.2010 at 20:40

Best 2009 gothic album! by far...

Lol. How could you call this gothic album! It's Doom/Death maybe some gothic elements in it

Doom/death
Nothing doom/death about it.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 11:30

Doom/death
Nothing doom/death about it.

So.. what do you think? gothic?

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 12:19

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 11:30

Doom/death
Nothing doom/death about it.

So.. what do you think? gothic?

Yep, and I am not the only one on the staff that thinks that. Come to think of it, we all do.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 12:23

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 12:19

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 11:30

Doom/death
Nothing doom/death about it.

So.. what do you think? gothic?

Yep, and I am not the only one on the staff that thinks that. Come to think of it, we all do.

Ok. Tell me what kind of genre? details

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 12:35



Ok. Tell me what kind of genre? details

Like said here in this thread... gothic metal.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 12:36

Like said here in this thread... gothic metal.

Waa. I never expect gothic sound like this

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 12:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 12:36

Like said here in this thread... gothic metal.

Waa. I never expect gothic sound like this

You're probably thinking of bands such as After Forever, epica, Within Temptation etc. which have nothing to do with Gothic Metal whatsoever. They don;'t have any gothic in their sound whereas Paradise Lost has lots of it. Just listen to Sisters Of Mercy and you'll clearly notice.

Yes of course it belongs in gothic, though I don't think someone would be wrong to mention doom elements in it, as it's quite similar to the Draconian Times era as well. That said though, I'm still not convinced and find it just as boring as their live shows are.

Written by Brave on 11.01.2010 at 12:39

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 12:36

Like said here in this thread... gothic metal.

Waa. I never expect gothic sound like this

try Moonspell, Tiamat and Paradise Lost ( for example Draconian Times or Icon) then you will understand it. but yes Im agree that we have to find another genre name for these kind of gothic cause Within Temptation is very very different than Paradise Lost!!! thats why genres are lame sometimes. take it easy.

Sounds like "Icon", but so boooooring! Unoriginal and uninspiring. I liked only 2 songs - "Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us", "Last Regret". Greatest dissapointment for me this year My favorite album is "Draconian Times" - it's like with Tiamat - "Wildhoney" remains THE BEST album and nothin can top it. But if we compare the last albums of these bands - I say Tiamat! It's not perfect, but at least refreshing. Paradise Lost .......just flat!

Written by Jeeers on 26.02.2010 at 14:39

Sounds like "Icon", but so boooooring! Unoriginal and uninspiring. I liked only 2 songs - "Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us", "Last Regret". Greatest dissapointment for me this year My favorite album is "Draconian Times" - it's like with Tiamat - "Wildhoney" remains THE BEST album and nothin can top it. But if we compare the last albums of these bands - I say Tiamat! It's not perfect, but at least refreshing. Paradise Lost .......just flat!

if you are a lover of the past and also of the angry side of PL how could that your 2 fav songs are the most "calm" ones. IMO songs like as horizonds end and the rise of denial are surely great and also closer to the old PL comparing them to those 2 you've mentioned.

Written by Deadmeat on 27.02.2010 at 01:41

Written by Jeeers on 26.02.2010 at 14:39

Sounds like "Icon", but so boooooring! Unoriginal and uninspiring. I liked only 2 songs - "Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us", "Last Regret". Greatest dissapointment for me this year My favorite album is "Draconian Times" - it's like with Tiamat - "Wildhoney" remains THE BEST album and nothin can top it. But if we compare the last albums of these bands - I say Tiamat! It's not perfect, but at least refreshing. Paradise Lost .......just flat!

if you are a lover of the past and also of the angry side of PL how could that your 2 fav songs are the most "calm" ones. IMO songs like as horizonds end and the rise of denial are surely great and also closer to the old PL comparing them to those 2 you've mentioned.

I didn't say I hate later PL albums, I just said "Draconian Times" is my favorite - and it's not so heavy/angry at all, by the way...
I said that I like those 2 songs - noone said they should be angry.
I judge music not for its heavyness but quality (my own subjective opinion), to say it in a few words: "I like what I like" - it can be Enya, classic music or Dimmu Borgir - If it touches my soulstrings, I like it, if not...... and this album NOT!

This is the best album after Draconian Times for me (in these years, Im not talking about the old stuff)

Written by Jeeers on 26.02.2010 at 14:39

Sounds like "Icon", but so boooooring! Unoriginal and uninspiring. I liked only 2 songs - "Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us", "Last Regret". Greatest dissapointment for me this year My favorite album is "Draconian Times" - it's like with Tiamat - "Wildhoney" remains THE BEST album and nothin can top it. But if we compare the last albums of these bands - I say Tiamat! It's not perfect, but at least refreshing. Paradise Lost .......just flat!

I agree with Wild Honey and Draconian Times but Im sorry that you cant enjoy this album! this is a bad version of Draconian Times for me but still good.

Paradise Lost proved once again that they are the synonym for gothic metal. They are making the genre since 1989!

"In Requiem" and "Fate Divides Us - Death Unites Us" are best of Paradise Lost new stuff. Pure gold albums!

Bah, pretty mediocre for me. The title track is one of the best tracks in my collection, but everything else just doesn't cut it. In Requiem was not as heavy, but was fairly better overall, imho.

Brilliant album, I would love to see these guys live soon!

This is incredibly solid (8,5/10). Imo their best since "Draconian Times" as well as one of the best goth-metal albums of the last decade. But I think it's going to be just an isolated case in their discography (which has become a bit boring after 1995): I've read "Tragic Idol" will be very 'melodic'. Not that I have something against 'melodic' metal (?), but speaking about Paradise Lost I associate catchiness with albums like "One Second", "Believe In Nothing" or "Paradise Lost"... Their most mediocre. And even this album is damn catchy! But at least it has a powerful and overwhelming sound, with one of Nick's best performances... We'll see about that...

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2010 at 12:42

They don't have any gothic in their sound whereas Paradise Lost has lots of it. Just listen to Sisters Of Mercy and you'll clearly notice.

Hm, Sisters Of Mercy... if you like them, could you recommend me one of their albums?

Just listened it and I have a quasten, whay there is such big dealw hit PL ... I didnt find anything special here, just ordinary album.... tommro I will giva a try to last one and then forever beck to roots

Not a bad album, however it could be more interesting.
Favorite songs: As Horizons End, Faith Divides Us - Death Unites Us, Living With Scars, Universal Dream, In Truth.

The title track popped up on Spotify shuffle and I rather enjoyed; the rest of the album isn't so to my tastes but it's still decent