Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6107 |
This is not the first time Anselmo did something like that. It's been going on for years now as far as I recall. Which means that what he said during Dimebash isn't a one-time bout of stupidity. He really has such views. All his apologies are bullshit. He isn't sorry for his views. He is sorry that he stupidly let the world know about them. Fuck this guy.
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 04.02.2016 at 18:39
Are we all aware of the fact that one can be a racist without necessarily writing overtly racist lyrics?
YES
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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Written by Daniell on 05.02.2016 at 10:32
This is not the first time Anselmo did something like that. It's been going on for years now as far as I recall. Which means that what he said during Dimebash isn't a one-time bout of stupidity. He really has such views. All his apologies are bullshit. He isn't sorry for his views. He is sorry that he stupidly let the world know about them. Fuck this guy.
I was shocked when I heard about his past more than what he did sometime ago, I mean I COULD take it as a stupid joke but apparently he is into it as you said. And somewhere I saw a photo of Metallica dudes were also giving the same salute, posing for a photo... just saying. I don't meant anything to justify what Anselmo did or such... Apparently it's an issue whether they show off what racist idea they hold or not. I don't even want to hear the music of the people who have this idea although they may not present it openly in their music. I can't see how people can separate the artwork from artist as they claim we can just listen to the music and ignore their ideas!! But how is that possible?!
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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And also I must mention another story from another metal artist... The guy was basically talking of his father who was his hero during his child... OK that is understandable, everyone has the idea of dads as heroes... hmm but he was also relying on the part that his father was part of Vietnam war... and I don't know I think it just sounded to me that one part of that heroic image he was narrating belonged to his father being part of Vietnam war which to me is:" OK... yeah your dad is your hero but for me you are part of the shameful war that you don't feel shy talking about it."
Conclusion? Some historical background is always enlightening and I think that would make bigger difference on how we perceive our music... and some of that historical background is even worse than a certain gesture or body language.
I don't know if I made a sense?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Che - well yes Varg never wrote racistical lyrics, IMO Jon from Dissesction to,
I never get why SW is nsbm band, it was 1th band I discovered whit satanic name, never really listened unless it was on BM Radio
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by angel. on 05.02.2016 at 15:27
Written by Daniell on 05.02.2016 at 10:32
This is not the first time Anselmo did something like that. It's been going on for years now as far as I recall. Which means that what he said during Dimebash isn't a one-time bout of stupidity. He really has such views. All his apologies are bullshit. He isn't sorry for his views. He is sorry that he stupidly let the world know about them. Fuck this guy.
I was shocked when I heard about his past more than what he did sometime ago, I mean I COULD take it as a stupid joke but apparently he is into it as you said. And somewhere I saw a photo of Metallica dudes were also giving the same salute, posing for a photo... just saying. I don't meant anything to justify what Anselmo did or such... Apparently it's an issue whether they show off what racist idea they hold or not. I don't even want to hear the music of the people who have this idea although they may not present it openly in their music. I can't see how people can separate the artwork from artist as they claim we can just listen to the music and ignore their ideas!! But how is that possible?!
when I told he is an idiot back in 2006 smartass here made a fun about me like I am super idiot. I don't remember he done, but well
I don't judge people how they look, but to me he looks like member of WAR skin band in many ways.
I was not shocked about it
I agree whit Delta Papa about apologies, don't mean shit , just he wants wash him self clean for public eyes
If child grows up in NS enviorement its not really his fault . that he hates ''niggers'' (sorry I don't want insult)
Its parents faulth, they have been morally abused, they see hate, and of corse they will hate and do more asparents, in hate crimes
I have seen stories, some ex ns skin watch TV whit son, and son says , ''how can you watch those niggers'' and guy thinks, what his son became and he became anti racist and works to kepe ppl out of gangs, racism, and trys was him self clean and save his son
extreme hatred singer teach his son hate and wants him be a war skin......
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Written by angel. on 05.02.2016 at 15:27
Written by Daniell on 05.02.2016 at 10:32
This is not the first time Anselmo did something like that. It's been going on for years now as far as I recall. Which means that what he said during Dimebash isn't a one-time bout of stupidity. He really has such views. All his apologies are bullshit. He isn't sorry for his views. He is sorry that he stupidly let the world know about them. Fuck this guy.
I was shocked when I heard about his past more than what he did sometime ago, I mean I COULD take it as a stupid joke but apparently he is into it as you said. And somewhere I saw a photo of Metallica dudes were also giving the same salute, posing for a photo... just saying. I don't meant anything to justify what Anselmo did or such... Apparently it's an issue whether they show off what racist idea they hold or not. I don't even want to hear the music of the people who have this idea although they may not present it openly in their music. I can't see how people can separate the artwork from artist as they claim we can just listen to the music and ignore their ideas!! But how is that possible?!
You push play and listen to the music. If that is what you are here for, that is.
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Koen Smits
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2016 at 19:09
He says he is but tbh I have never noticed him actually being a racist even though he is/was a live member of Satanic Warhamster
HAhaha!!!
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but spoil thius film is like spoil porn and say porn ends whit cum shot ...
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Spirit of dead
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Written by angel. on 05.02.2016 at 15:27
I was shocked when I heard about his past more than what he did sometime ago, I mean I COULD take it as a stupid joke but apparently he is into it as you said. And somewhere I saw a photo of Metallica dudes were also giving the same salute, posing for a photo... just saying. I don't meant anything to justify what Anselmo did or such... Apparently it's an issue whether they show off what racist idea they hold or not. I don't even want to hear the music of the people who have this idea although they may not present it openly in their music. I can't see how people can separate the artwork from artist as they claim we can just listen to the music and ignore their ideas!! But how is that possible?!
Coz music is entertainment and our ears don't discriminate based on ideas, they discriminate on sound.
E.g. I don't agree with Rage Against The Machine ideas at all but their debut is one great album and there's some great stuff on Evil Empire too.
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Written by Spirit of dead on 07.02.2016 at 23:49
E.g. I don't agree with Rage Against The Machine ideas at all but their debut is one great album and there's some great stuff on Evil Empire too.
No shit dude, when I saw the official video for Bombtrack I wanted to gouge my eyes out and eat them after watching all that bullshit. Still a good band musically though.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Spirit of dead on 07.02.2016 at 23:49
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E.g. I don't agree with Rage Against The Machine ideas at all but their debut is one great album and there's some great stuff on Evil Empire too.
because of their ideas I hate that band, they will play near Cremlin and Crimea . .... lame band.
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I've been listening to his music for a long time and I've seen him with Pantera and Down. Despite anything he says, I don't think he's a racist person. Being a racist would mean he thinks one or more race is not as good as his and don't deserve equal treatment, rights, or respect. Phil Anselmo is an ass sometimes, not particularly intelligent, and probably has some prejudices, but considering his whole history as a public figure and his lyrics, I think it's hard to make a case that he is a racist person. Prejudiced, probably.
Considering how drunk he was, he could have done it for any massive number of dumb reasons.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.
Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"
I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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