Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
03.03.2008 - 21:08Rating: 9
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This album is so awesome.
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HardSide
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Nice review, but doesn't explain what they play, what they sound like. All in all, ill see if i can score a copy and give it a listen.
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Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13254 |
yeh, nicely written but we do want telling what kind of music they actually play inside a review..
it all looks a bit pretentious with the title and everything..
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Written by Baz Anderson on 04.03.2008 at 15:16
it all looks a bit pretentious with the title and everything..
And the review was able to maintain that theme.... Good job!
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Nice title and great cover...the review was pretty intriquing as well but as a few others I kinda missed the style..? But since it's from you my guess would be some kind of black...
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jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life StaffPosts: 6659 |
Earth is of course the quintessential drone band.
I thought everybody knew this?
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Promonex Cathemeral ElitePosts: 9720 |
There are people who don't know Earth?
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Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13254 |
there are people that don't care to know Earth judging from what Jerry has said. haha
drone? sounds like the kind of "music" I would not want to be listening to.. I don't even listen to doom or anything around there
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you snob fuckheads, last time I checked Earth wasn't the most popular band on earth hehe
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I've heard of Earth, just not heard the music before. I may pick a copy of this up though...
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Uu, interesting.. I'll keep this in mind.
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
04.03.2008 - 20:09Rating: 9
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Written by HardSide on 04.03.2008 at 15:01
Nice review, but doesn't explain what they play, what they sound like. All in all, ill see if i can score a copy and give it a listen.
You are right I didnt explicitely state it, as i thought it wasn't really necessary. Of course, looking back on it, I could have said at least it was Drone/Doom, but then again, most people who know this band know that already.
As for the lack of a sound description, this can be extracted from it (at least, I think it can):
- repetive music.
- slow riffs
- basically no more than a couple of notes after each other
- instrumental
- basic drumming
- western feel, western effects.
Really, do you need more? I mean, opinions on what a review should offer can of course vary. I personally think it is the task of the reviewer to filter out the bad albums and give a warning for those, and for the good albums, give an idea what they sound like, and try to get the reader enthusiastic. I think I did that, but you're in your full right to disagree.
Written by PrettyMao on 04.03.2008 at 15:22
Written by Baz Anderson on 04.03.2008 at 15:16
it all looks a bit pretentious with the title and everything..
And the review was able to maintain that theme.... Good job!
How is my review pretentious?
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Written by [user id=5080] on 04.03.2008 at 18:07
you snob fuckheads, last time I checked Earth wasn't the most popular band on earth hehe
Word!
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btw, I would like to add that I didn't like the review at all... The whole first paragraph was totally unnecessary and out of context and Nervel actually never says anything about this album. As constructive criticism, don't review anything if you find it "impossible" to explain the album, and I don't really understand why do you say that a description of its sound is hardly necessary. I actually think there is A LOT to write about this enigmatic, hypnotic and highly inspired music.
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I've just listened to the album and found it boring as hell, but still pretty good! It sounds self-contradicting and it is, but that's how I feel. It's not something I would listen to daily, but after a hard day if you need to chill out it's perfect. And I've always thought drone was an extreme genre, so that was another surprise. I would give the album a 6,7-7.
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
05.03.2008 - 20:12Rating: 9
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Written by [user id=5080] on 05.03.2008 at 01:12
btw, I would like to add that I didn't like the review at all... The whole first paragraph was totally unnecessary and out of context and Nervel actually never says anything about this album. As constructive criticism, don't review anything if you find it "impossible" to explain the album, and I don't really understand why do you say that a description of its sound is hardly necessary. I actually think there is A LOT to write about this enigmatic, hypnotic and highly inspired music.
In my opinion, I DID explain what this album sounds like. Read my post, a few ones up. Perhaps those descriptions were not clear enough, as they were a bit 'hidden' in the third paragraph. I thought it would b obvious, but I guess not.
And about the first paragraph, that you call out of context and unnecessary: I'd say 95% of the words in a review are 'unnecessary'. Really, it would save us all a lot of time if we would approach reviews in a different way from now on. Let's just develop some sort of questionnaire:
Speed: around 65.
Genre: black
Feeling: Doomish, blasphemous
Skills: non-existant (adds to atmosphere)
Judgement: buy.
Would you like that? I sure as hell wouldn't. Of course, the first paragraph doesn't say anything about the music, or about the band. But in my opinion, that doesn't make it unnecessary. What I tried to do was to somehow place you back into the america of the old days. To make the listener feel, what I feel when I listen to the music of Earth. That's it, nothing more. I think that such paragraphs (i do it a lot more) add to a review and make it more than just a simple list of plusses and minuses. If it didn't (doesn't) work you that way, well, I'm sorry, but this is my style of writing and I am not going to change it. (don't want to and probably not able to).
Sorry if I sound a bit pissed-off, and don't think I can't stand critism, but I just had a long day. You're welcome to give your thoughts about this post, I'd really like that.
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"The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama
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Awesome album.
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Mikael Akerfeldt doesn't age like humans do.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
i agree with Southern Wind regarding the first paragraph. While most words in a review might be "unnecessary," if they are about the band/album they are at least relevant to the review. The first paragraph was largely political rhetoric that had no bearing on the music what-so-ever.
to make a pun on your name, it really touched a 'nerve' with me.
if you wanted to reference "America in the good old days" you could have simply left it at that, as opposed to commenting on present-day politics, that would have worked... much like a review of Enslaved mentioning their Viking past would have worked, whereas injecting thoughts on Norway's current immigration policy would have zero bearing on one of their albums.
if you'd like to send me a pm to discuss American history and "invasions", i'd be glad to discuss it in that manner.
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
06.03.2008 - 10:45Rating: 9
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Quote: quote author=1423 date=2008-03-06 08:15:50]
i agree with Southern Wind regarding the first paragraph. While most words in a review might be "unnecessary," if they are about the band/album they are at least relevant to the review. The first paragraph was largely political rhetoric that had no bearing on the music what-so-ever.
to make a pun on your name, it really touched a 'nerve' with me.
if you wanted to reference "America in the good old days" you could have simply left it at that, as opposed to commenting on present-day politics, that would have worked... much like a review of Enslaved mentioning their Viking past would have worked, whereas injecting thoughts on Norway's current immigration policy would have zero bearing on one of their albums.
if you'd like to send me a pm to discuss American history and "invasions", i'd be glad to discuss it in that manner.
If you feel offended about the "capitalist übercountry.." sentence, i dearly apologize. It was merely meant to illustrate that "the old days are lost and gone forever". Not to judge America for its actions and political moves. I cannot even judge those as I simply lack expertise in that area.
So well, I still think that the first paragraph is not unnecessary, as it adds to the value of the review, and describes the feeling of the album. However, I should stay away from politics, and I'll admit that that sentence was not thought-true enough. I seem to have misjudged the responses it would receive.
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Written by Lucas on 05.03.2008 at 20:12
Written by [user id=5080] on 05.03.2008 at 01:12
btw, I would like to add that I didn't like the review at all... The whole first paragraph was totally unnecessary and out of context and Nervel actually never says anything about this album. As constructive criticism, don't review anything if you find it "impossible" to explain the album, and I don't really understand why do you say that a description of its sound is hardly necessary. I actually think there is A LOT to write about this enigmatic, hypnotic and highly inspired music.
In my opinion, I DID explain what this album sounds like. Read my post, a few ones up. Perhaps those descriptions were not clear enough, as they were a bit 'hidden' in the third paragraph. I thought it would b obvious, but I guess not.
And about the first paragraph, that you call out of context and unnecessary: I'd say 95% of the words in a review are 'unnecessary'. Really, it would save us all a lot of time if we would approach reviews in a different way from now on. Let's just develop some sort of questionnaire:
Speed: around 65.
Genre: black
Feeling: Doomish, blasphemous
Skills: non-existant (adds to atmosphere)
Judgement: buy.
Would you like that? I sure as hell wouldn't. Of course, the first paragraph doesn't say anything about the music, or about the band. But in my opinion, that doesn't make it unnecessary. What I tried to do was to somehow place you back into the america of the old days. To make the listener feel, what I feel when I listen to the music of Earth. That's it, nothing more. I think that such paragraphs (i do it a lot more) add to a review and make it more than just a simple list of plusses and minuses. If it didn't (doesn't) work you that way, well, I'm sorry, but this is my style of writing and I am not going to change it. (don't want to and probably not able to).
Sorry if I sound a bit pissed-off, and don't think I can't stand critism, but I just had a long day. You're welcome to give your thoughts about this post, I'd really like that.
BitterCold summarized pretty well my thoughts on the first paragraph. I lived myself for pretty long in the USA and I was kind of negatively touched by the political statements, as I found them really cliché and with the "out of place" shit I mean that is I'm all the time reading shit about the USA's government I feeled pissed about reading them even in a review of a band I really admire. About the fact that I didn't technically like the review, it is due to the fact that this is a band in which you can dig very deep. The'yr one of the (if not THE) most highly praised drone band on earth, they have interesting biographical items like the performance of Curt Cobain in the first era, and their sound is truly original and it had evolved a lot. On the other hand, they're highly unknown to the metal audience (and I actually thinh there's nothing of metal in their music), so I don't think it was a good idea to take almost for granted that everyone here know about their sound, and some explanation of the actual music would had been interesting. On the other hand, I totally agree with the rating and with the description of this shit sounding like the soundtrack to a desolate western place. But that's because I'm really familiar with this shit and the only thing for which I read this review with atention was because I wanted to see the point of view of somenoe I consider a respectable straigh-metalhead like you. That is, I hope you take this as constructive criticism.
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
07.03.2008 - 11:16Rating: 9
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Written by BitterCOld on 06.03.2008 at 08:15
Written by [user id=5080] on 05.03.2008 at 01:12
Quoting both of you.
One good thing about the internet is that published articles can still be edited. Due to the replies of both of you, I decided it would be best to change it. The particular sentence was not thought-through, and although not intented to do offend anyone, it did. So I got rid of it. I do not want to get involved in politics, especially of a country other than my own, so I best stay out of it.
Thank you both for making it clear to me that I should choose my words more carefully next time. Cheers!
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Konrad Mormon Storm
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16.04.2009 - 05:39Rating: 9
Great review.
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18.05.2010 - 07:42Rating: 9
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Never got the review until I actually listened to the album. great review indeed
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Slayer666
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Drone isn't really my thing, but this album, and specially the closing track.... wow...
Despite listening, almost exclusively these days, to many atmospheric Black and Doom bands, I have yet to hear a track that takes me someplace else like that one.
I'd just like to thank Lucas for shedding some light on yet another hidden gem that I would otherwise completely miss.
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IronAngel
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With the new (amazing) album leaked, I should comment here too. It's a good review. A good album review is supposed to be good prose. It's a form of art, not a science. The review describes this album perfectly, and labelling it would be pointless.
How do you label this, anyway? People have claimed it's drone doom, but it really has very little to do with drone. Earth just has that reputation because their first three or four albums (up to Pentastar, maybe) were drone. This is more like doomy ambient or minimalist post-rock. It's not even metal. But it's an awesome album, no less.
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Written by IronAngel on 11.01.2011 at 22:17
With the new (amazing) album leaked, I should comment here too. It's a good review. A good album review is supposed to be good prose. It's a form of art, not a science. The review describes this album perfectly, and labelling it would be pointless.
How do you label this, anyway? People have claimed it's drone doom, but it really has very little to do with drone. Earth just has that reputation because their first three or four albums (up to Pentastar, maybe) were drone. This is more like doomy ambient or minimalist post-rock. It's not even metal. But it's an awesome album, no less.
I'll def be grabbing the new album if it's leaked. Is it in the same style as this?
I'd say this southern-tinged/perhaps Americana influenced post-rock. It's not drone, whatever people say.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2011 at 16:32
Written by IronAngel on 11.01.2011 at 22:17
With the new (amazing) album leaked, I should comment here too. It's a good review. A good album review is supposed to be good prose. It's a form of art, not a science. The review describes this album perfectly, and labelling it would be pointless.
How do you label this, anyway? People have claimed it's drone doom, but it really has very little to do with drone. Earth just has that reputation because their first three or four albums (up to Pentastar, maybe) were drone. This is more like doomy ambient or minimalist post-rock. It's not even metal. But it's an awesome album, no less.
I'll def be grabbing the new album if it's leaked. Is it in the same style as this?
I'd say this southern-tinged/perhaps Americana influenced post-rock. It's not drone, whatever people say.
It's pretty similar, yes (without the Western theme, I guess). I haven't fully grasped it yet, but it's good (not that Earth have ever made anything bad). I'm buying it as soon as it's out, I bet.
Yes, this album definetely has that Ennio Morricone mood. It is somewhere in the area between post-rock and ambient; it doesn't have the dynamics (and bombast) of most post-rock, and it's based more on repetition and sound like ambient. The simple repetition also brings to mind 20th century minimalism, to I think I'll settle with minimalistic ambient post-rock of Morriconish soundscapes. >_< Then again, it does have more structure than most ambient. Not that it really matters, the genres blend into eachother seamlessly at a certain point.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
13.01.2011 - 09:57Rating: 10
Written by [user id=4365] on 12.01.2011 at 16:32
I'd say this southern-tinged/perhaps Americana influenced post-rock. It's not drone, whatever people say.
I'll call it Doom Country
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.01.2011 at 09:57
I'll call it Doom Country
Is album more doom or drone? I am not a huge doom fan.
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16.02.2012 - 00:28Rating: 10
Written by tea[m]ster on 16.02.2012 at 00:26
Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.01.2011 at 09:57
I'll call it Doom Country
Is album more doom or drone? I am not a huge doom fan.
Hehehehe. I like to call it Doom Country not because of the genres really... Just because I think it sounds cool. Like country/Spaghetti Western music going slooooooow.
You should definitely check this album. My favorite Earth album.
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