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I was going to write a review for it man, you beat me to it! Good job, though. Agreed on the general description, though the rating's a bit high in my opinion. Though I wouldn't go as far as calling it "generic", the originality does not deserve a 10 by any means. Excellent album, one of the great surprises of the year, and a strong contender for album of the year.
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Windrider Raureif
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07.05.2011 - 20:19Rating: 10
Written by [user id=109200] on 07.05.2011 at 19:46
Though I wouldn't go as far as calling it "generic", the originality does not deserve a 10 by any means.
Haha funny I was about to include a sentence "This album is the opposite of being generic" but I deleted it due to the word limit. I wanted to explain the 10 in originality with it, but nevertheless thanks for your comment
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
I ignored the initial hype surrounding this before giving it a listen, but even then it wasn't anything remarkable. Probably a 6 or 7 out of 10 from me, it's pretty run-of-the-mill keyboard-laden melodeath.
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10 is a little high there. I listened to this and it was pretty average. The Red Shift was better and their first album was the best.
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08.05.2011 - 13:09Rating: 9
I agreee with most of this, but the vocals drag the overall thing a little down for me. Perhaps it's because I've been listening to Monolith by In Mourning at the same time - really impressed with the growling there. Anyway, some people seem dissatisfied with the lack of an in-your-face wow factor on this release. All I can say is that this is an album about pervading atmosphere, not godlike shredding. The technique at display here is still mindblowing to me, but in restraint rather than excess. At first listen, you may get the "typical melodeath" vibe, but it really is much more. And OG simply know how to put together something that just sounds awesome and keeps sounding awesome after many listens. Highly recommended.
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This album is an '8' at best. i really don't see where you're getting your conclusions.
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BehzadSh
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09.05.2011 - 10:12Rating: 10
I think 10 is a little high, But "New World Shadow" is the best album of "Omnium Gatherum"
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Ag Fox Angel No More ElitePosts: 4774 |
10.05.2011 - 11:03Rating: 8
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Written by [user id=20536] on 08.05.2011 at 06:20
10 is a little high there. I listened to this and it was pretty average. The Red Shift was better and their first album was the best.
I thought the redshift is better too. Have yet to hear their debut...
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Vikingr
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10.05.2011 - 22:23Rating: 9
Excellent Album, well deserved of the 10
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The Voyager The Table
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11.05.2011 - 00:16Rating: 8
I just kind of noticed this review, and I have to say, this is getting kind of ridiculous. A 10 for originality? A 10 for songwriting? A 10 overall? Come on. This is getting to be one of the most overhyped albums in recent memory. Only one off the top of my head that I can think of that beats it is Wintersun.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by The Voyager on 11.05.2011 at 00:16
I just kind of noticed this review, and I have to say, this is getting kind of ridiculous. A 10 for originality? A 10 for songwriting? A 10 overall? Come on. This is getting to be one of the most overhyped albums in recent memory. Only one off the top of my head that I can think of that beats it is Wintersun.
What about The Great Mass?
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The Voyager The Table
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11.05.2011 - 02:30Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 11.05.2011 at 01:18
What about The Great Mass?
I thought The Great Mass was an excellent album. Do I think it's the 69th greatest metal album of all time (or whatever it is right now)? Absolutely not. But I think it's a damn good album. Not 10 out of 10 material, but more deserving of the praise it's getting than this album is, in my opinion. Still a little overblown though, definitely.
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Windrider Raureif
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11.05.2011 - 16:40Rating: 10
Written by The Voyager on 11.05.2011 at 00:16
I just kind of noticed this review, and I have to say, this is getting kind of ridiculous. A 10 for originality? A 10 for songwriting? A 10 overall? Come on. This is getting to be one of the most overhyped albums in recent memory. Only one off the top of my head that I can think of that beats it is Wintersun.
Well I think this is even (slightly) better than Wintersun, 'cause here is nothing (really NOTHING) I can think of that could have been made better, and even in Wintersun there are some passages or even single notes that could sound a tiny bit better. New World Shadows is a great example of how (metal) music should be, different songs with intros, outros, changing passages, catchy refrains, heavy and haunting melodies and even some with two different refrains.
Btw there is a new article which I would recommend to many of you: http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/article.php?article_id=920
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The Voyager The Table
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11.05.2011 - 17:34Rating: 8
Written by Windrider on 11.05.2011 at 16:40
Well I think this is even (slightly) better than Wintersun, 'cause here is nothing (really NOTHING) I can think of that could have been made better, and even in Wintersun there are some passages or even single notes that could sound a tiny bit better. New World Shadows is a great example of how (metal) music should be, different songs with intros, outros, changing passages, catchy refrains, heavy and haunting melodies and even some with two different refrains.
Btw there is a new article which I would recommend to many of you: http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/article.php?article_id=920
To be honest, saying this is slightly better than Wintersun doesn't really have much meaning to me, as I think the Wintersun album is grossly overrated and entirely mediocre. I just don't see what's so special about this album, and I probably never will.
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To be honest, your assessment of originality and complexity confuses me. This is by no means an original album to me-- albeit a sturdy album as you mention. In fact, I haven't heard an album this consistent but this unoriginal since Noumena's Absence.
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Edmund Fogg
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This is a good example of non-staff review. The rating is far too high. From the fiew tracks I listened too, it sounds good but not worth a purchase and far from a perfect sound
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Edmund Fogg on 17.05.2011 at 21:51
This is a good example of non-staff review.
I'll be selfish and take that as a direct compliment. Thanks!
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Edmund Fogg
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@troy : no problems. You should take it as a compliment and other reviewers as well. It is a serious job and demands a keen ear and a level of objectivity that not a lot of people have (me included)
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Spacerunner
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20.05.2011 - 18:12Rating: 10
Thanks for your review. This is my favorite album of last years. It brought me back many things that I loved so much in former melodic death.
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Mikyz
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.05.2011 at 20:40
I ignored the initial hype surrounding this before giving it a listen, but even then it wasn't anything remarkable. Probably a 6 or 7 out of 10 from me, it's pretty run-of-the-mill keyboard-laden melodeath.
Same here, it might be better than the usual generic BS, but it still isn't as impressive as its made out to be. There are a tons of albums that blow this one out of the water for which I didn't even give a 9/10, counting this year's releases only.
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Parasomnia
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21.06.2011 - 23:10Rating: 10
This album kicked some ass, not your everday melodeath band. "Deep Cold" has one of the most emotion filled endings I've ever heard \m/
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.05.2011 at 20:40
I ignored the initial hype surrounding this before giving it a listen, but even then it wasn't anything remarkable. Probably a 6 or 7 out of 10 from me, it's pretty run-of-the-mill keyboard-laden melodeath.
I agree.
Not bad for a boring sub-genre that is melodeath, but a hundred miles from a 10. Melodeath freaks feel free to disagree
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Written by Edmund Fogg on 17.05.2011 at 21:51
This is a good example of non-staff review.
Don't you mean this is a BAD example of a guest review?
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Edmund Fogg
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Written by [user id=105293] on 14.08.2011 at 00:33
Written by Edmund Fogg on 17.05.2011 at 21:51
This is a good example of non-staff review.
Don't you mean this is a BAD example of a guest review?
Nah I think it's a good example of the lack of objectivity behind a lot of guest reviews
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MétalNoir Fils du Lys
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29.08.2011 - 21:55Rating: 9
Can't agree with your rating. 10 for originality and songwriting??? C'mon try Be'Lakor's "Stone's Reach" and tell me without laughing "New World Shadows" is "that complex and original".
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Growing
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BloodJuNkie Of Egypt
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24.04.2014 - 13:00Rating: 7
Well it's a good album, not a perfect one. Personally i prefer Beyond more than it.
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Wes
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21.05.2014 - 16:04Rating: 10
I might prefer beyond, but both are 10s to me.
I just started to really listen to this one, and I love it.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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27.06.2014 - 05:38Rating: 6
Hard to accept the legitimacy of the rating of 10 for originality, when the last track (as good as it is) sounds like an Opeth rip-off and the overall album, as Troy Killjoy has said sounds like "pretty run-of-the-mill keyboard-laden melodeath". I think it's a decent enough album, and obviously you love it, but in terms of where it stands in the pantheon of metal history, 10s across the board is a bit reckless.
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