Silent Creeper Senile Veteran
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11.06.2013 - 19:50Rating: 7
Nice review, I would mostly agree. Kind of an album that teases you but never really delivers, giving you some sort of auditory "blue balls".
Anyway, little bit better than We Are The Void, but still one of the weakest releases by DT's (high) standards. Even though I would still rate this around 7.5.
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You know funny thing is, I also didn't like We Are The Void, but I don't consider that or Construct a reinvention of their own; to me that would be something they've done back in the day on The Gallery, or maybe Haven. To me DT just becomes more and more sloppy with each release since Damage Done, and I can't help it.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
11.06.2013 - 21:00Rating: 6
Nice, great to see DSM back in the review saddle, even if just a cameo. will be checking this out, but my only real DT experience is Character, which I rather like. Worried anything else they've done will fall flat comparatively.
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11.06.2013 - 21:15Rating: 7
Written by BitterCOld on 11.06.2013 at 21:00
Nice, great to see DSM back in the review saddle, even if just a cameo. will be checking this out, but my only real DT experience is Character, which I rather like. Worried anything else they've done will fall flat comparatively.
If you liked Character, you'll probably like Fiction. You should try it. It only hurts the first time.
As for me, I agree with many things you said Momo. I said it before elsewhere, but it just lacks consistency this one although there are good moments in there. Still, it is disappointing but I'm a fangirl just like you
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9089 |
Thanks for the comments people!
@ Agnostik: agreed on "Anyway, little bit better than We Are The Void, but still one of the weakest releases by DT's (high) standards."
@ qlacs: I don't think they reinvented themselves with Construct, but at least they tried to sound a bit differently this time, which is good
@ BitterCOld: thanks, but yeah, only a cameo for now As for Character, it's definitely one of their best, the others being (for me) The Gallery and Projector - and both are wildly different from Character. Fiction is Character part II, but less good - that's why it hurts the first time (yep, BloodTears's right). Also, there's "Inside The Particle Storm" on it
@ BloodTears: yep, sadly it lacks consistency, both in the 'classical DT sound' (but that would have made another We Are The Void) or in experimentations... But, still some great moments
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DT's worst album would be most band's best album, so an OK album by DT is a great album. 8. Get it now.
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11.06.2013 - 22:25Rating: 9
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I think this is actually one of their strongest records. Unlike the reviewer, I think minimalism and restraint are some of the reasons why this album is so enjoyable; there are quite a few sonic punches in the stomach that just wouldn't work if the songs were more drawn out.
It's hard to find such a string of great tracks elsewhere from DT's discography than what the first four are here, in my books only Character can rival that.
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This is definitely on my list of things I need to check out. I too have been a fanboy for the last decade+ beginning with my discovery of the (imo) fantastic Damage Done later that year of it's release.
Fiction is definitely one of my top Dark Tranquillity albums for sure; probably right behind Damage Done and Projector.
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Written by Darkside Momo on 11.06.2013 at 21:56
Also, there's "Inside The Particle Storm" on it
"Inside the Particle Storm" is a magnificent track indeed!
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9089 |
@ Blackmamba
[disclaimer: fanboy mode on] so true!! [/fanboy mode]
more seriously, I kinda agree that most of their copycats can berely scratch DT's OK albums
@ Blizk: while I guess you're right about minimalist and restraint (heck, For Broken Words is great because of that], I still don't think this is one of their greatest works (and if you ask me, for a longer string of awesome tracks, there's Projector with "Brought To A Bitter Halt" onwards )
Written by psykometal on 11.06.2013 at 22:58
Written by Darkside Momo on 11.06.2013 at 21:56
Also, there's "Inside The Particle Storm" on it
"Inside the Particle Storm" is a magnificent track indeed!
one of their best ever. And a reason to respect/worship Niklas Sundin
Oh, about Fiction: I felt it was a letdown after Character, to be honest. There's a lot of stuff I love on that album, but there are some sub-par tracks too, while Character doesn't have any. However, Character took a lot of time to really sink in, so spin it a few more times just to be sure, right?
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Written by Darkside Momo on 11.06.2013 at 23:27
one of their best ever. And a reason to respect/worship Niklas Sundin
Oh, about Fiction: I felt it was a letdown after Character, to be honest. There's a lot of stuff I love on that album, but there are some sub-par tracks too, while Character doesn't have any. However, Character took a lot of time to really sink in, so spin it a few more times just to be sure, right?
It is definitely one of their best tracks. Honestly though I lost track of the band (and all things Melodic Death in general) for a while due to a total lack of interest/burned the fuck out on all things Melodic Death metal, and I didn't even realize they had released Character until they had already announced Fiction. Even then I ended up not really giving it a full chance before falling deeply in love with Fiction. And I have just been a bad bad fanboy by never doing the band their due justice in fully checking out Character... :embaressed:
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Written by psykometal on 11.06.2013 at 23:39
Written by Darkside Momo on 11.06.2013 at 23:27
one of their best ever. And a reason to respect/worship Niklas Sundin
Oh, about Fiction: I felt it was a letdown after Character, to be honest. There's a lot of stuff I love on that album, but there are some sub-par tracks too, while Character doesn't have any. However, Character took a lot of time to really sink in, so spin it a few more times just to be sure, right?
It is definitely one of their best tracks. Honestly though I lost track of the band (and all things Melodic Death in general) for a while due to a total lack of interest/burned the fuck out on all things Melodic Death metal, and I didn't even realize they had released Character until they had already announced Fiction. Even then I ended up not really giving it a full chance before falling deeply in love with Fiction. And I have just been a bad bad fanboy by never doing the band their due justice in fully checking out Character... :embaressed:
time to correct that oversight of yours, then
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Maybe it's because I listen while properly lubricated with alcohol, or call me a fanboy if you must, but it's still genius. 8.8
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Wes
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12.06.2013 - 08:42Rating: 8
What Only You Know, a filler? That songs makes the album for me personally. Nice review though I have to agree with everything else you said.
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I like the album .. certainly not their greatest, but a good effort imo ... I just don't know why some people consider Fiction a pain the first time they hear it ... It's my second favorite album of DT right after the Gallery
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Silent Creeper Senile Veteran
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12.06.2013 - 10:07Rating: 7
Maybe Sundin and Henriksson suffer from "the Samson syndrome" which unables them to achieve songwriting greatness from the past.
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Maybe I'll give it a listen. Never was a huge fan of DT, but I used to enjoy there old works quite a bit and while I haven't heard an album from them I've truly enjoyed in a while, I still find their work difficult to completely ignore.
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Zadion
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12.06.2013 - 11:25Rating: 7
I pretty much agree, but I think that Construct is right there alongside We Are the Void in style. It's a real grower, that's for sure.
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12.06.2013 - 11:41Rating: 8
I still replay some of the songs and I really think it's a grower. Great review, by the way.
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Honestly I enjoyed this album. The reviewer and several other people seem to completely ignore one strong aspect of this. album.
But then it seems alot of people want to ignore the existance of he strongest similar album to this one. PROJECTOR. Construct is somewhere between Projector and Damage Done for me. If you like those two albums you will like this one. If your a purist/elietist
idiot you will hate it. I for one am glad of the return of the cowardly lion vocals.
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Written by Lanthros on 12.06.2013 at 18:34 If your a purist/elietist idiot you will hate it.
It doesn't take a purist or elitist to recognise that this album is simply a weak album in their overall discog. Not liking it certainly doesn't make a person an "idiot" either.
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Written by Darkside Momo on 11.06.2013 at 21:56
As for Character, it's definitely one of their best, the others being (for me) The Gallery and Projector
Strange you didn't mention Damage Done, which is actually my favourite followed by the three you mentioned.
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I'm starting to wonder if i'm the only DT fan that liked we are the void. i only heard construct once and i wasn't really feeling it but i'd imagine it'll grow on me like the rest of DT's stuff. i used to dislike DT completely so, yeah, but any album that can't cause any rise in my interest at any point on the first listen is a very weak album imo.
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I'm definitely with Momo on DT's best albums. It's those three he mentioned for sure.
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13.06.2013 - 19:18Rating: 9
Good review! I must say I think the album is better than you said but I clearly get your points, interesting to read.
Only thing I could argue with is "The Silence In Between" being only average, in my opinion it's the best song besides "For Broken Words".
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Written by [user id=4365] on 12.06.2013 at 22:23
Written by Lanthros on 12.06.2013 at 18:34 If your a purist/elietist idiot you will hate it.
It doesn't take a purist or elitist to recognise that this album is simply a weak album in their overall discog. Not liking it certainly doesn't make a person an "idiot" either.
you can call it weak thats not the point but elitists ARE idiots. And if you had a grasp of grammer you would have noticed i simply pointed out that elitist idiots wont like it. That leaves an awful lot of room for others not liking it. Lets face it, elitists lead to stagnation, stagnation leads to death. Elitists abd racists all are very unmetal and should crawl back to the atrociousness that is RAC.
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Written by Lanthros on 14.06.2013 at 02:14
you can call it weak thats not the point but elitists ARE idiots. And if you had a grasp of grammer you would have noticed i simply pointed out that elitist idiots wont like it. That leaves an awful lot of room for others not liking it. Lets face it, elitists lead to stagnation, stagnation leads to death. Elitists abd racists all are very unmetal and should crawl back to the atrociousness that is RAC.
Yeah that's "grammar," not "grammer."
" Construct is somewhere between Projector and Damage Done for me. If you like those two albums you will like this one. If your a purist/elietist idiot you will hate it"
I like those two albums. I think this one is very mediocre. Clearly your analogy of elitists and people's taste is flawed. I guess that's why I didn't get what you meant. Perhaps you could explain how elitism then relates to a dislike of this album? Seeing as I like both the other albums you mentioned the only reason, according to you, that I would dislike this album is because I'm an elitist.
" Lets face it, elitists lead to stagnation, stagnation leads to death. Elitists abd racists all are very unmetal and should crawl back to the atrociousness that is RAC."
By far and away the biggest load of rambling, nonsensical and non sequitur bollocks I've ever seen written anywhere. Aside from the fact that most of that statement makes no sense whatsoever, elitism, if anything, can lead to heightened critical awareness when it takes certain forms, which can lead to more creativity. Something which I regard this album to be lacking in. Elitism is a matter of perspective and not always a bad thing, and, as I say, does not make one an idiot necessarily. Blanket dislike of elitists is pretty dumb and reactionary though in my opinion. Seeing as you instantly relate elitism to racism I can tell you have a tenuous grasp of the concept.
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14.06.2013 - 05:23Rating: 8
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Quote: Oh, and bonus track "Immemorial" was largely album material; I wonder why it was pushed to the lesser status of 'bonus track', really.
They always do that, I don't know why. Some of my favorite DT tracks are bonuses. "The Poison Well" and "Zero Distance" to name a couple. Although Distance did end up being a single after the album was released.
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Zadion
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14.06.2013 - 08:59Rating: 7
Written by Lanthros on 12.06.2013 at 18:34
Honestly I enjoyed this album. The reviewer and several other people seem to completely ignore one strong aspect of this. album.
But then it seems alot of people want to ignore the existance of he strongest similar album to this one. PROJECTOR. Construct is somewhere between Projector and Damage Done for me. If you like those two albums you will like this one. If your a purist/elietist
idiot you will hate it. I for one am glad of the return of the cowardly lion vocals.
Projector is my favorite DT album. This album does not have very strong Projector elements, IMO. Clean singing =/= Projector influence
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Written by Zadion on 14.06.2013 at 08:59
Projector is my favorite DT album. This album does not have very strong Projector elements, IMO. Clean singing =/= Projector influence
Sounds nothing like Damage Done either to my ears. Far too plodding.
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